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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Booney » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:15 pm

MW wrote:5 years on better coin vs 2-3 years on reduced coin to force PA to a higher wage as a FA? Risky move Ollie.


He'll be our highest paid player, if he left he might get $900k, he'll be over $800k with us.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby MW » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:16 pm

Booney wrote:
MW wrote:5 years on better coin vs 2-3 years on reduced coin to force PA to a higher wage as a FA? Risky move Ollie.


He'll be our highest paid player, if he left he might get $900k, he'll be over $800k with us.


Why does Kane Cornes have it in for him?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Booney » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:29 pm

MW wrote:
Booney wrote:
MW wrote:5 years on better coin vs 2-3 years on reduced coin to force PA to a higher wage as a FA? Risky move Ollie.


He'll be our highest paid player, if he left he might get $900k, he'll be over $800k with us.


Why does Kane Cornes have it in for him?


Did the phones run hot after his comments?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby morell » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:38 pm

MW wrote:
Booney wrote:
MW wrote:5 years on better coin vs 2-3 years on reduced coin to force PA to a higher wage as a FA? Risky move Ollie.


He'll be our highest paid player, if he left he might get $900k, he'll be over $800k with us.


Why does Kane Cornes have it in for him?
Hang on, I thought Kane was staunchly pro-Port and anti-Crows.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Jim05 » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:48 pm

morell wrote:
MW wrote:
Booney wrote:
MW wrote:5 years on better coin vs 2-3 years on reduced coin to force PA to a higher wage as a FA? Risky move Ollie.


He'll be our highest paid player, if he left he might get $900k, he'll be over $800k with us.


Why does Kane Cornes have it in for him?
Hang on, I thought Kane was staunchly pro-Port and anti-Crows.

Not sure he hates Wines, just said Port should give him a 2 week ultimatum to sign or stop negotiating until the season ends
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby MW » Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:01 pm

He's just never rated him as an elite mid
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Booney » Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:45 pm

MW wrote:He's just never rated him as an elite mid


Is Wines elite? I'd say he is. He's averaged over 26 disposals, 6 clearances, 5 tackles and 13 contested possessions for 3 years now. Prior to that he had 2 seasons of 24+, 5, 5 and 11. That's 5 years over 24 touches, 5 clearances and 5 tackles on average. That's elite numbers in my book and he's not yet 24 with several years of his best footy ahead of him. He's elite with the only question mark over his disposal efficiency at times, but his job is to be in and under when efficiency is going to be harder to maintain.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby MW » Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:50 pm

Booney wrote:
MW wrote:He's just never rated him as an elite mid


Is Wines elite? I'd say he is. He's averaged over 26 disposals, 6 clearances, 5 tackles and 13 contested possessions for 3 years now. Prior to that he had 2 seasons of 24+, 5, 5 and 11. That's 5 years over 24 touches, 5 clearances and 5 tackles on average. That's elite numbers in my book and he's not yet 24 with several years of his best footy ahead of him. He's elite with the only question mark over his disposal efficiency at times, but his job is to be in and under when efficiency is going to be harder to maintain.


Which is my point. Why does Cornes not rate him...
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Booney » Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:54 pm

MW wrote:
Booney wrote:
MW wrote:He's just never rated him as an elite mid


Is Wines elite? I'd say he is. He's averaged over 26 disposals, 6 clearances, 5 tackles and 13 contested possessions for 3 years now. Prior to that he had 2 seasons of 24+, 5, 5 and 11. That's 5 years over 24 touches, 5 clearances and 5 tackles on average. That's elite numbers in my book and he's not yet 24 with several years of his best footy ahead of him. He's elite with the only question mark over his disposal efficiency at times, but his job is to be in and under when efficiency is going to be harder to maintain.


Which is my point. Why does Cornes not rate him...


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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:55 pm

Booney wrote:
MW wrote:He's just never rated him as an elite mid


Is Wines elite? I'd say he is. He's averaged over 26 disposals, 6 clearances, 5 tackles and 13 contested possessions for 3 years now. Prior to that he had 2 seasons of 24+, 5, 5 and 11. That's 5 years over 24 touches, 5 clearances and 5 tackles on average. That's elite numbers in my book and he's not yet 24 with several years of his best footy ahead of him. He's elite with the only question mark over his disposal efficiency at times, but his job is to be in and under when efficiency is going to be harder to maintain.

Absolutely he is.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Wedgie » Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:03 pm

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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:08 pm

Wedgie wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-02-03/the-true-elites-which-clubs-have-got-them

What a load of snot:

Adelaide
Brodie Smith
Rory Sloane
Rory Laird
Eddie Betts
Tom Lynch
Taylor Walker

Brisbane Lions
Daniel Rich
Dayne Zorko

Carlton
Sam Docherty

Collingwood
Jeremy Howe
Scott Pendlebury
Jack Crisp

Essendon
Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti
Michael Hurley

Fremantle

Nat Fyfe

Geelong
Patrick Dangerfield
Gary Ablett
Sam Menegola
Daniel Menzel

Gold Coast
Aaron Hall
Tom Lynch

GWS

Zac Williams
Toby Greene
Jeremy Cameron
Lachie Whitfield

Hawthorn
Ben McEvoy
Luke Breust
Cyril Rioli

Melbourne
Jake Lever
Christian Petracca
Jayden Hunt
Tom McDonald

North Melbourne
Todd Goldstein

Port Adelaide

Robbie Gray
Paddy Ryder
Justin Westhoff
Charlie Dixon
Chad Wingard
Travis Boak

Richmond

Dustin Martin
Alex Rance
Shane Edwards

St Kilda

Jack Sinclair

Sydney
Lance Franklin
Dan Hannebery
Tom Papley
Josh Kennedy
Dane Rampe

West Coast

Jeremy McGovern
Elliot Yeo
Shannon Hurn
Josh Kennedy
Luke Shuey
Nic Naitanui

Western Bulldogs

Jason Johannisen
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby bennymacca » Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:11 pm

Wines is a slight level below the absolute elite in the comp imo. but still has a another gear left in him too
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:15 pm

bennymacca wrote:Wines is a slight level below the absolute elite in the comp imo. but still has a another gear left in him too

I can spot at least 10 players on that list that Wines would shit all over in many facets.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Wedgie » Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:20 pm

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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby bennymacca » Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:22 pm

Wedgie wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/stats/player-ratings/overall-standings#position/midfielder


yep 28th best mid seems about right to me

I cant see anyone on that list ahead of him that I think is a worse player. (not taking age into account)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:28 pm

It was done in February I guess.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Wedgie » Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:29 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:It was done in February I guess.

The rating of Wines as 28th when it comes to midfielders rankings was updated two days ago.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Booney » Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:29 pm

bennymacca wrote:
Wedgie wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/stats/player-ratings/overall-standings#position/midfielder


yep 28th best mid seems about right to me

I cant see anyone on that list ahead of him that I think is a worse player. (not taking age into account)


He's the 20th ranked midfielder, the 28th (equal) over all.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:30 pm

bennymacca wrote:
Wedgie wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/stats/player-ratings/overall-standings#position/midfielder


yep 28th best mid seems about right to me

I cant see anyone on that list ahead of him that I think is a worse player. (not taking age into account)

Debatable.
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