2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

[mots02]

West Coast delist Lewis Jetta

Just the right age to get picked up by Geelong

Probably a year or 2 early for the Cats but now that he's available they might pounce.

is he mates with Paddy?

[gadj1976]

West Coast delist Lewis Jetta

Just the right age to get picked up by Geelong

Probably a year or 2 early for the Cats but now that he's available they might pounce.

is he mates with Paddy?

I still don't get how we treat older players. Instead of keeping them on the list we draft pick 93 who has less than 1% chance of playing a league game. It makes zero sense to me. Obviously $are involved but I'm sure most would stay on a list rather than get punted for a rookie.

[Brodlach]

Huge trade news

Trade paperwork officially lodged.

The Sydney Swans have traded its Future Round Three Selection (tied to Carlton) to the Gold Coast SUNS for its Rd 2 (37) Selection.

Trade paperwork lodged.

The Sydney Swans have traded its Rd 2 (31) Selection to Carlton for its Rd 3 (48) and Future Round Three Selection.

[locky801]

Huge trade news

Trade paperwork officially lodged.

The Sydney Swans have traded its Future Round Three Selection (tied to Carlton) to the Gold Coast SUNS for its Rd 2 (37) Selection.

Trade paperwork lodged.

The Sydney Swans have traded its Rd 2 (31) Selection to Carlton for its Rd 3 (48) and Future Round Three Selection.

I'm confused

[Armchair expert]

No doubt the swans have another academy rort going on

[daysofourlives]

No doubt the swans have another academy rort going on

Yep they have one expected to be bid on around pick 10 plus another 20-30 range

[Gozu]

Carlton have rookie listed Eddie Betts who turns 34 tomorrow and the Crows are looking at SA born delisted Lion Mitch Hinge.

[Brodlach]

Carlton have rookie listed Eddie Betts who turns 34 tomorrow and the Crows are looking at SA born delisted Lion Mitch Hinge.

Hinge was delisted because he didn’t want to sign a new contract at Brisbane and he and Adelaide had organised to work together as a DFA


Rookie list is becoming a farce when Betts, David McKay and Grant Birchall in their mid 30’s are rookie listed.

[Jim05]

Oh dear, the Treloar deal is getting ugly.
Typical AFL making up rules on the fly

[DOC]

Carlton have rookie listed Eddie Betts who turns 34 tomorrow and the Crows are looking at SA born delisted Lion Mitch Hinge.

Hinge was delisted because he didn’t want to sign a new contract at Brisbane and he and Adelaide had organised to work together as a DFA


Rookie list is becoming a farce when Betts, David McKay and Grant Birchall in their mid 30’s are rookie listed.

Always been a farce. I think Ben Hudson was a rookie at 35.

[Bum Crack]

Carlton have rookie listed Eddie Betts who turns 34 tomorrow and the Crows are looking at SA born delisted Lion Mitch Hinge.

Hinge was delisted because he didn’t want to sign a new contract at Brisbane and he and Adelaide had organised to work together as a DFA


Rookie list is becoming a farce when Betts, David McKay and Grant Birchall in their mid 30’s are rookie listed.

You forgot Lachie Henderson

[Dutchy]

Its simply that if you are a Rookie then $80k of you salary is outside the cap

[Mr Beefy]

Its simply that if you are a Rookie then $80k of you salary is outside the cap

Yes, a farce

[Trader]

They should just change the name to the supplementary list. Stop calling it a rookie list and its fine.

Oh dear, the Treloar deal is getting ugly.
Typical AFL making up rules on the fly

What's the latest?

[Jim05]

Dogs, Pies in messy stand-off over Treloar’s $4.5m deal
The Western Bulldogs and Collingwood are yet to agree on who’s paying how much of Adam Treloar’s five-year deal


THERE is yet another extremely messy twist in the Adam Treloar saga.

The Western Bulldogs, Treloar’s new AFL club, and Collingwood, his old one, are at loggerheads over the breakdown of the $4.5 million owed to the 27-year-old in his new five-year deal from 2021-25.

The mayhem on trade deadline night, Thursday, November 12 – where the Treloar deal was confirmed via an email from the Bulldogs to AFL officials just seconds before the 7.30pm cut-off – has continued since.

Formal paperwork for all AFL trades is normally required within a week of the close of Trade Period, but special exemption from the AFL for an extension has been granted.

It is believed the AFL has provided a new deadline for resolution of this Friday.

The massive stand-off between the clubs is not Treloar’s problem – he will receive the full amount owed to him – but it is looming as a significant total player payments issue for the Bulldogs.

Clubs interested in Treloar, one of four players off-loaded by Collingwood in the Trade Period as part of a drastic salary dump, were of the belief the Pies were prepared to cover about $300,000 a year of the $900,000 a year total for Treloar.

The Bulldogs negotiated internally to those figures but, since lodging the intent of trade with the AFL, have not been able to get even near finalising the contract.

The Magpies are playing hard-ball on the amount to which they will commit, and are taking the view that this is not their problem.

It is believed the clubs are as far apart as $200,000 a year on at least one season of the five-season deal.

The matter has been complicated by the season-long uncertainty about list sizes and salary caps for 2021 and beyond, with recent clarity on those issues failing to bring the Dogs and Pies any closer to resolution.

Treloar’s exit from Collingwood after five seasons was one of the messiest departures ever seen in the AFL.

Collingwood’s inability to properly communicate with the players it wanted out exacerbated the problem, as did the club’s refusal to speak publicly about its need to off-load salary commitments, which also saw 2018 NAB Rising Star Jaidyn Stephenson badly hurt and transferred to North Melbourne.

Tom Phillips, who like Treloar and Stephenson was contracted to the Pies, was also moved out to Hawthorn, and Atu Bosenavulagi followed Stephenson to the Kangaroos.

[Brodlach]

Handy team

[Lightning McQueen]

They should just change the name to the supplementary list. Stop calling it a rookie list and its fine.

Oh dear, the Treloar deal is getting ugly.
Typical AFL making up rules on the fly

Absolutely, or a pensioner list.

[Booney]

Tell me if I'm wrong here, please.

Collingwood trade Treloar, picks 26,33 and 42 (1687 points) for pick 14 and future 2nd rounder ( we'll call it pick 30, for points value - 1790 points ). So let's call the points even, for arguments sake.

As such Treloar for pick 14, does that pass the "pub test" when taking into account the AFL Integrity Unit sign off on all trades being fair and "market value"? For mine, it doesn't, again, tell me if you think I'm wrong.

So the AFL basically sign off on a trade that allows Collingwood to dump some salary so they either a) don't end up going over the TPP in coming years or b) end up having a stacked top end TPP and nothing at the bottom end, basically have 5 blokes on mega money and 10-15 at the bottom end on scraps leaving them (probably) uncompetitive.

Then the AFL allow them and the Bulldogs an extension on the lodging of paper work to make sure they don't go over the TPP and spread the wage of Treloar out to best suit their needs.

As I said, tell me if you think I'm wrong here.

[MW]

you are not wrong

[Lightning McQueen]

Handy team

How shit is Gallucci if he still can't make that list?