Best 21 that came from the VFL or WAFL to play for your club

[Dissident]

Same rules apply from the other thread, but they must have came from the VFL, VFA, WAFL or TFL first.

I'll do Torrens first:
F: Primmer Tierney Morphett
HF: Muir Johnston Barrott
C: Cassin Shearman Wallace
HB: Elliott Grambeau Keast
B: Bartlett Carey Christensen
R: Sarau Galt Birt
Int: Schimmelbusch Taylor Thoms
Coach: Reynolds

Spelly:

I showed my Dad this thread and he wrote this;


Keast was a ruckman – hbf??

came from Footscray – was a reserve player who couldn’t crack a game – won medals etc – they wouldn’t clear him – not sure how long he played for – he was ok without setting the world on fire – his first game was a good one for us after the clearance issue and we played above ourselves as did he – don’t know game or result though – in your book of results probably – end of the 60’s – maybe early 70’s.

[spell_check]

Same rules apply from the other thread, but they must have came from the VFL, VFA, WAFL or TFL first.

I'll do Torrens first:
F: Primmer Tierney Morphett
HF: Muir Johnston Barrott
C: Cassin Shearman Wallace
HB: Elliott Grambeau Keast
B: Bartlett Carey Christensen
R: Sarau Galt Birt
Int: Schimmelbusch Taylor Thoms
Coach: Reynolds

Spelly:

I showed my Dad this thread and he wrote this;


Keast was a ruckman – hbf??

came from Footscray – was a reserve player who couldn’t crack a game – won medals etc – they wouldn’t clear him – not sure how long he played for – he was ok without setting the world on fire – his first game was a good one for us after the clearance issue and we played above ourselves as did he – don’t know game or result though – in your book of results probably – end of the 60’s – maybe early 70’s.

There are too many ruckmen in that team!

It's hard to determine which game was after the clearance bit, but this is his career with Torrens:
1974: 9 games 9 goals 7 behinds (Played Round 3, was injured then came back from Round 16 onwards)
1975: 6 games 9.6 (The first 5 matches, kicked 5 goals in Round 5, then was injured and his only other match was Round 16)
Total: 15 games 18 goals 13 behinds

[Hondo]

F T Malakellis / T Evans / Knight
HF Spalding / Granger / Tredrea
C West / J Clayton / Darcy
HB Foster / Leys / Angove
B Rizonico / / Curtis

R Johnston / T Brown / Clifford
I / Martyn / Morgan

Couple spots missing. Other people would do a better job

I think Fragomeni was from WAFL so he could probably fit into a back pocket or on the bench.

Ambrose could probably slot into full back.

Not sure there'd be room for Wes Fellowes though

I certainly had Fragomeni in my side, as well as Ray Huppatz (if allowed under the rules), Robert Whatman, Garry Smallridge, Ryan O'Connor and a certain Hayden Bunton Snr. I'd also slip in Mark Lawson as he stayed at our place when he first moved to Adelaide to play for Port.

Z

Looking at the powerful Norwood and Port line-ups in this thread, you see some real impact SANFL players. Gives some insight maybe in to why those teams performed so well in the pre Crows and Power days. I guess success breeds success and if you have the record, you attract the recruits.

Port's team also partly explains their dominance in the 90s. Their imminent AFL entry seemed to be a useful carrot to attract quality recruits which, along with the retention of home-bred AFL prospects such as Carter, Mead, Poole and co made them very, very competitive in that era. 9 flags in 12 years from 1988-1999.

[Mark_Beswick]

As west adelaides historian, I thought I better post our WAFL linked players

BANDY, John Frederick
BATES, Harry
BATT, Frederick Roy
BORCHARD, Ian Alfred
BOURN, Errol Wayne
CASSIDY, Bradley James
CONNELL, Matthew Denney
DEARDS, Kenneth John
EUSTICE, Peter -
GOLDING, Leonard Cyril
HAMILTON, John McGregor
HAYES, John Anthony
HEADON, Gordon James
JARVIS, Maxwell Thomas
LAWLER, Thomas Barry
LOVING, Scott Anthony
MARSHALL, Russell John
MELVILLE, Victor Ian
MILLER, Mark Ronald
MORGAN, Harry Stanley
OAKLEY, George Alexander Roy
PARRY, Arnold Sephton
SHEPHERD, Henry George
SIMISTER, Scott James
SNELL, Robert -
WATERS, Beau Michael John
WILKINSON, Allan Norman
WOOLLARD, John -
ZEUNER, Reginald Jack



OUR VFL/AFL LINKS

ANDERSON, Graeme R
ANDREWS, Ronald Claude
BACKWELL, Brett William
BANFIELD, Peter Charles
BANIK, Anthony Stuart
BARLOW, Paul Edward
BARRETT, Christopher Gerard
BERRY, Jeffrey Mark
BORCHARD, Ian Alfred
BRADSHAW, Darren Jhon
BRAY, Jeffrey Philip
BROADSTOCK, Jack Harmer
BROWN, Nathan Daniel
BRUCE, George -
BRYANT, Leslie Allan
BURGESS, Anthony -
CARLSON, Darren Graham
CASSIDY, Bradley James
CASSISI, Domenic -
CONLEN, Bernard Harold
CONNELL, Matthew Denney
CORDY, Brian Raymond
CROWELL, Andrew Wayne
DAVIS, Bradley James
DAY, Robert John
DENNEMAN, Darren Lure
DI ROSA, Robert -
DONATI, Daniel Peter
DRAGICEVIC, Mark Steven
DREHER, Andrew Mark
EAGLETON, Nathan Michael
EDWARDS, Tyson Roy
EZARD, James Thomas
FIELKE, Grantley Craig
FISHER, Samuel -
GAUDION, Charles Henry
GRAY, Troy Alan
HAMILTON, Steven Kerry
HARBINSON, Mervyn John
HART, Thomas Paul
HAYES, John Michael
HAYNES, Benjamin John
HEAVER, Brent Barry
HERBERT, Carl Bryce
HERBERT, Desmond John
HEWITT, Darryl Leonard
HEWITT, Glynn Maxwell
HOCKING, Edward Cecil
HODGES, Shane Clement
HOGAN, Francis Peter
HOLLANDS, Benjamin Robert
HOLLICK, Gregory Russell
HOUSE, Henry John
HOWARD, Dean Robert
HUDSON, Ross William
JERICHO, Luke Daniel
JOHNSON, Bertram Harold
JONES, Samuel Lindsay
KEANE, William Joseph
KEDDIE, Robert Mackay
KENNEDY, Michael James
KILPATRICK, Glenn Matthew
KOULOURIOTIS, Paul -
LAMB, Clayton Andrew
LANE, Thomas Ouseley Blake
LARKINS, Trevor Andrew
LESIPUTTY, Francis Ross
LINDNER, Bruce Norman
LOWTHER, Daniel Lowther
LUKEMAN, Joscelin Kethburt
MARSH, Benjamin Keith
MAYNE, Terrence Neville
McLUCKIE, Steven John
McMAHON, Gavin Michael
MICKAN, Mark James
MILLER, Neville John
MODRA, Anthony Dale
MORGAN, Harry Stanley
MURRAY, Damian -
MYLES, Dion Evan
NICKS, Matthew Craig
NORMAN, Luke Thomas
OATWAY, Albert Edward
O'KEEFE, Brian F
PARKER, John Ross
PARRY, Arnold Sephton
PATTERSON, Paul John
PETTIGREW, Michael John
PORPLYZIA, Jason Karl
REHN, Shaun Jason
RICCIUTO, Mark Anthony
RICHARDSON, Adam Scott
ROACH, Donald Vivian
ROBERTSON, Graeme Lindsay
ROSS, Lachlan James
RUSCA, Shannon Troy
RUSSELL, Jordan Leigh
RUTTEN, Benjamin -
RYDER, Frederick Albert Harold
SCHUBACK, Jacob Eugene
SEXTON, Jack Ettwell George
SHAW, Derek Maxwell
SHAW, Neville William
SIM, Lachlan Campbell
SIMISTER, Scott James
SIMPSON, Matthew Kevin
SLATTERY, Henry William
SMITH, Bernard Keith
SMITH, Edward
SMITH, Lou
SMITH, Michael Damian
SPORN, Kieran Gary
STEVENS, Nicholas James
STEVENSON, Bruce Alexander
STOTT, Leonard Wilbur
TAYLOR, Albert Dominic
TAYLOR, Lawrence -
THOMAS, Leslie Francis
TOOHEY, Gerard Vincent
TREDREA, Gary Raymond
TUCK, Shane Michael
TWOMEY, David Peter
WALLIS, Gary T
WALSH, Peter Joseph
WATERS, Beau Michael John
WATSON, Larry John
WEIDEMAN, Mark
WEIDEMAN, Murray Charles
WELSH, Scott Nathan
WHEILDON, Darren John
WIGGINS, Patrick Oliver
WIGNEY, Stuart Charles
WILLIAMS, Brent Cameron
WILLIAMS, Craig Stephen
WILLIAMS, Kenneth John
WILLIAMS, Mark Melville
WINTON, Brian James
WOOD, Cameron Richard Llewellyn
WOODHALL, Dale William Edward
YEO, Albert -

[redandblack]

Interesting list, Bessie.

If you leave out those who went from West to other states and leave out those who were mini-drafted to West, you're left with a lot of very good small on-ballers and all positions except ruckmen.

I also don't know where Bob Snell played (Magarey Medal) or Jack Sexton and whether they played interstate after Westies, so I'll leave them out.

First effort:

Backwell A Richardson Haynes

Mike Smith Simister Kilpatrick

Carlson Borchard Kennedy

Walsh Dreher Watson

McLuckie Stevenson Winton


D Murray Banik Hogan

Int: Take your pick of the following, most of whom should probably be in the team anyway.

Banfield
Barrett
D Bradshaw
Woodhall
Harbinson
Hollick
Tuck
Myles
Cordy
Winton
Wallis
Howard
C Herbert
D Herbert
Dragicevic
and those I've missed.

[GWW]

Wasn't Damian Murray from Renmark? I presume hes the player being referred to, above, hes listed as the ruckman.

[XXXXRooster]

I put a West team of vic recruits up on BF yrs ago, i got told off for putting Craig Williams on a wing

[redandblack]

Didn't take long

Missed Craig Williams.

Immediately insert him at full-back, please.

Sorry Craig.

First of many changes to come, I expect, but it was a quick effort just for the sake of it.

[redandblack]

Not sure about Diesel (D Murray), but I didn't have ruckman.

I don't think he was from Renmark (?), perhaps just over the border somewhere, so he might be a ring-in for this team.

Mark Stewart was from Vic, but I don't know if he would be eligible.

[XXXXRooster]

Stick Luke Norman in the guts for some old fashioned oomph too

[gonzo]

Sturt, but only back as far as my memory goes. I'm unsure if Candles Thompson was originally a Vic: I know he came to Sturt via Hawthorn.

B M.Keane G.Ryan W.May
HB M.Pitura G.Hardeman M. Delahunty
C B. Colreavy R. Shearman S. O'keefe
HF E. Langridge L. Fitzgerald W. Johnson
F L. Schachke J. Arnol M.Hill
1R C.Thompson C.Saddington R.Dawe*

* Roly Dawe came to Sturt on a one year deal from the WAFL, where he was a top rover, in around '74. He found it very hard to break into the side, but when given the chance showed his class. Like Gary Hardeman, he came specifically to experience Jack Oatey's coaching. I'm pretty certain he won the Reserves Magarey that year.

Hardeman/Shearman/Fitgerald. Beat that for those 3 key positions!

[Adelaide Hawk]

Candles Thompson was originally from Sturt.
Technically, Shearman was recruited from West Torrens.

[gonzo]

So M.Hill into first ruck and Brant Chambers [a Vic, via WAFL and NTFL] into the full forward line.
We recruited some good players from Mildura too, but I don't know if they played VFL/VFA first, or came straight to Sturt.

Re: Shearman, I think he came to Sturt on an open clearance, having stood out for a year as Torrens refused to clear him. So we'll take him anyway.

[JK]

Wouldn't Stephen Richardson get a game in the Norwood side? He was one of the best half flankers i saw in the SANFL in the 80's, was recruited from the WAFL I believe.

I thought Stephen Richardson played some good football for the Legs, and had one very good year, but in general I found his form to be inconsistent. Could play some brilliant footy, but also played too many poor games in the mix.

Fair assessment of the "Tan Man" AH .. Played almost as though he was more worried about his looks and didn't live up to (what was arguably) the pretty high reputation he came with - was exposed for pace quite regularly.