Reserves, Seconds, etc...

[Leaping Lindner]

Further to a discussion on another thread. The following is from NAFC annual reports.
So it seems that between 1908 and 1912 the "reserves" competition changed it named from The Adelaide and Suburban Association (which had been around since the 1880s - at least) to the "seconds".

From the 1908 Annual Report
North Adelaide Seconds.
Your Committee have pleasure in reporting that your second
team greatly improved during the season, and, although only in
their second year, secured a place in the Finals of the Adelaide
and Suburban Association. It is quite probable that with the
experience gained they will attain a higher position during next
season. Your Committee tenders its thanks to the officers, and
especially Mr. C. Young, the energetic Secretary, and the trainers,
the efforts of all of whom are deserving of commendation.

From the 1912 Annual Report
Juniors
Your Committee tenders its hearty congratulations to your
Second Eighteen on winning the Premiership of the South
Australian Football Association. They displayed fine form
throughout the season and members deserve credit for their
consistency. Much praise is due to their coach, Mr. C. Tuckey,
for this efficiency. Praise is also due to the Hon. Secretary, Mr.
C. F. Young, and to members of the General Committee and
training Staff for their energies.


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[Magpiespower]

Off the top of my head...

But was the Ressies Magarey first awarded in 1905?

[Leaping Lindner]

Off the top of my head...

But was the Ressies Magarey first awarded in 1905?

Possibly the first recorded one I have seen is Roy LeMessurier from 1906 whilst playing with Semaphore Central. Roy ended up playing league at North after that side of the LeMessurier family "saw the light" and moved from Semaphore to Walkerville

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I've researched the scores from the "B" Grade as it was known at the time between 1912 and 1915, and only have the following scores missing:

5/7/1913 Sturt 61 Torrens 41, played at Unley
4/7/1914 Norwood 42 Sturt 51, played at Norwood
1/8/1914 Torrens 40 Sturt 20, played at Norwood
5/6/1915 Port L Torrens W, played at Alberton

And for reasons I don't know South and Sturt from a ladder at the end of the season only had 11 matches down, and I can't find their second meeting for the season. The ladders often didn't add up, so those points are as close to the score as possible.

The Sporting Mail (which was for a few years was separate to its' parent Sunday Mail), was inducted in 1912 and gave excellent coverage to the B Grade in 1912. Hence no missing scores and only 14 matches that did not have complete quarter scores (with the help of the Register and Advertiser).

Anyway, the finals scores were:
31/8/1912 1SF Port 4.10 Sturt 10.12 Norwood
31/8/1912 2SF North 9.11 Norwood 3.6
7/9/1912 F North 7.8 Sturt 3.5 Unley - the Sporting Mail hinted that North were "compelled" by the Association to play at Unley.
14/9/1912 CF Port 4.10 North 10.13 Norwood

16/8/1913 1SF Port 4.13 Torrens 9.9 Norwood
16/8/1913 2SF Sturt 7.9 Norwood 4.10 Unley
23/8/1913 F Sturt 8.4 Torrens 2.3 Adelaide
30/8/1913 CF Port 5.8 Sturt 4.17

8/8/1914 1SF South 9.16 Sturt 5.5 Norwood
8/8/1914 2SF Port 3.7 Torrens 3.13 Unley
15/8/1914 F South 7.7 Torrens 5.5 Alberton

11/9/1915 1SF Port 6.8 West 3.8 Norwood
11/9/1915 2SF Torrens 9.15 North 1.9 Unley
18/9/1915 F Torrens 5.8 Port 3.8 Unley

I also know that Port were the Premiers in 1911.

[Adelaide Hawk]

This is from "Eighty Years of Football - Norwood Football Club 1878-1961":

Year: 1906

"The Norwood second eighteen won the premiership of the S.A.F.A. It was its first season in the competition".

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Ok, so this would make the list pre 1919:

1906: Norwood
1907:
1908:
1909:
1910:
1911: Port
1912: North
1913: Sturt
1914: South
1915: Torrens

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And the placings:
1912: North Port Sturt Norwood West South Torrens
1913: Sturt Port Torrens Norwood North South West
1914: South Torrens Port Sturt North Norwood West
1915: Torrens Port North West Norwood South Sturt

[MagareyLegend]

The Adelaide and Suburban Association

1907 Grand Final
Saturday 13th October at the Thebarton Racecourse
Portland Imperials 3-4 defeated Norwood II 1-5

1908 Grand Final
Saturday 3rd October at Adelaide Oval
Portland Imperial 7-7 defeated Sturt II 4-6

The South Australian Association

1909 Grand Final
Saturday 2nd October at Unley Oval
Sturt II 2-9 defeated Semaphore Central 0-1

1910 Grand Final
Saturday 24th September at Unley Oval
First Quarter - Norwood 1-3 South Adelaide 2-3
Second Quarter - Norwood 3-10 South Adelaide 2-5
Third Quarter - Norwood 4-15 South Adelaide 3-6
Final - Norwood 5-17 defeated South Adelaide 5-6

1911 Grand Final
Saturday 23rd September at Unley Oval
Port Adelaide 8-7 defeated West Adelaide 3-12

[MagareyLegend]

I've researched the scores from the "B" Grade as it was known at the time between 1912 and 1915, and only have the following scores missing:

5/7/1913 Sturt 61 Torrens 41, played at Unley Sturt 8.13 Torrens 6.6
4/7/1914 Norwood 42 Sturt 51, played at Norwood
1/8/1914 Torrens 40 Sturt 20, played at Norwood
5/6/1915 Port L Torrens W, played at Alberton

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Thanks ML! What I'll do is put up exactly what I have of the scores between 1912 and 1915, so if you have something I don't and likewise, here it is:

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The B Grade as it became known comprised of only the then 7 teams from 1911 onwards.

I've got the Premiers and runners up from 1902 onwards now:

Year 1st 2nd
1902 Torrens Portland
1903 Portland North Jnrs
1904 Portland West
1905 Portland West Utd
1906 Norwood
1907 Portland Norwood
1908 Portland Sturt
1909 Sturt Semaphore
1910 Norwood South
1911 Port West
1912 North Port
1913 Sturt Port
1914 South Torrens
1915 Torrens Port