SA FOOTY MEDIA GUIDE - CORRECTIONS FOR 2009 EDITION

[PhilH]

Hi everyone,

As discussed on other treads attached is a section where any errors of a factual (oppossed to typing) nature in the 2008 SA Football Media Guide can be listed and thus corrected any further issues.

All feedback welcomes.

Regards
Phil Herden

[Ecky]

Good idea Phil

Page 70 - Glenelg's lowest score was in 2004, not 2003.

[rd]

Hi Phil - well done to both Peter Argent & yourself for the book and hope to see it there every year from now on - especially as an exciting new Sturt era is about to commence!

Anyway just a couple of errors:

Page 8 - left hand column says Ebert won his 4th Magarey Medal in 1980 and the right hand column same page states he played 25 games for North Melbourne in 1980 - no wonder he sat down on the floor with Bob McLean after the presentation ceremony on Magarey Medal night - must have been exhausted playing both full SANFL & VFL seasons in the same year!

However a correction needed for 2009 edition - Page 150 omits the 1978 Escort Cup won by South Adel - the 78 Escort Cup details are on page 228 of the 2006 SA Football Media Guide.

Well done once again!

[Adelaide Hawk]

Page 151
1930 - W Scott - club listed as nw - all other Norwood medallists shown with capital 'N'
1940 - PM Brock - should be Glenelg
1975 - R B Wolfe (PA) .. should be Woite.
1977 - TF Grimmwood (W) - should be Grimwood (WA)
1982 - AB McGuiness (Gl) - should be a double 'n'
1997 - AN Jarman (NA) - should be Norwood
2002 - TM Weatherald (S) - all other Sturt medallists shown as 'St'

And I'm a little mystified by the goal tallies in the SANFL Leading Goalkickers (Page 166) for the past 10 or so seasons where goals kicked in finals aren't counted (eg Jim West listed as 73 in 1997 but he kicked 80), whereas in earlier years they were (eg 1969 Fred Phillis 137 goals, etc)

[scarlet pimpernel]

Hi Phil
Well done for this post and Media Guide
Now it up to us to make this of use to you

We have found these for you consideration

p125 Eagles vs Sturt
Head to Head at Woodville Oval Eagles 15 wins Sturt 1 win
Head to Head Total Games Eagles 37 wins Sturt 9 wins Total played 46 games
Eagles Highest Losing Score R14 2003 13 - 5 83 pts, Eagles won in 2004

p154 Biggest Winning Margin List
equal 10th Sturt 31 - 30 206 pts

p157 Unley Oval
Highest Score against Sturt 31 - 7 193 pts by Eagles R16 2006

[spell_check]

Page 59: Biggest winning margin column, there is no space between 21 and 1993.
Page 60: Ben Schwarze was leading goalkicker last year, with 49 goals
Page 149: Eagles last premiership for any grade is showing Res 2004 (hopefully you'll need to change it from L 2006 anyway)
Page 154: Top right hand corner, shows Lowest Winnings Scores
Page 155: Football Park lowest score should be 1.8 (14), not 1.4 (10)
Page 156: Port also kicked 168 points (26.12) against Central at Elizabeth, in Round 1 1990
Page 159: Highest score in Elimination Finals should be 24.22 (166), not 24.33 (166), and the margin has the Woodville score as 9.01 (64)
Page 166: 1967s leading goalkicker should be Sachse
Page 166: Adam Richardsons goals tally in 1998 should be 88, though my compilation of his round by round in that season totals up to 85
Page 167: Under most goals kicked by a player at each venue, should be D Del-Re
Page 167: Should be A Jakovich in the 100 goal but did not lead goalkicking
Page 168: First Game vs Western Australia was at the Jubilee Oval
Page 175: bottom left hand corner, should be R Hateley
Page 176: A 2002 inductee, should be G Mellor

[spell_check]

And as Adelaide Hawk pointed out:

Leading Goalkicker in each season:
1993: Mark Tylor 90
1994: Scott Hodges 129
1996: Scott Hodges 116
1997: Jim West 80
1998: Adam Richardson 88 (or 85!)
2000: Chris Kluzek also kicked 72 goals
2003: Darren Bradshaw 97
2004: Daniel Schell 74
2005: Daniel Schell 81
2007: Brant Chambers 112

[sapaul]

Page 105: Sturt 'Most Goals in a Game'...Rick Davies kicked 15, not 14 in that game against West in 1983.

[Magpiespower]

And as Adelaide Hawk pointed out:

Leading Goalkicker in each season:

1994: Scott Hodges 129

Not being a pedant but...

Most references have Hodges' tally as 130.

Over the years 'leading goalkickers' lists have fluctuated according to the publication.

The Footy Times would even include pre-season matches in goal tallies!

(And pre-season games as well - a particular pet hate of mine. Minor round and finals should only count!)

[spell_check]

This is my tally for Hodges in 1994:

1: 3.0
2: 5.2
3: 6.0
4: Bye
5: 3.1
6: 5.2
7: 6.3
8: 4.1
9: 1.3
10: 4.1
11: 0.0
12: 2.1
13: Bye
14: 8.2
15: 1.3
16: 10.2
17: 4.3
18: 8.3
19: 5.1
20: 11.3
21: 6.4
22: Bye
23: 5.1
24: 10.3
25: 7.4
QF: 5.4
SF: 1.1
PF: 3.1
GF: 6.2
Total: 129.51

This is the only occasion where leading goalkicker for the season (or those who kicked 100 goals) played 26 premiership matches.

[spell_check]

The tallies I have that differ from other records:

1972: Mike Coligan, I have 79 goals (81)
1978: Tim Evans, 91 goals (90)
1982: Trevor Pierson, 109 goals (104)
1983: Neville Roberts, 112 goals (111)
1988: Stephen Nichols, 104 goals (103)
1999: Adam Richardson, 70 goals (66)
2001: Adam Richardson, 79 goals (84)

[Royal City]

Centrals have only won two wooden spoons, 1964 and 1977. 1970 listed on Centrals page in the guide as a spoon year for us and not the case.

[Adelaide Hawk]

The tallies I have that differ from other records:

1972: Mike Coligan, I have 79 goals (81)
1983: Neville Roberts, 112 goals (111)

Mike Coligan definitely kicked 81 goals in 1972, and Neville Roberts kicked 111 in 1983. I'll send you game by game tallies if you would like.

[spell_check]

The tallies I have that differ from other records:

1972: Mike Coligan, I have 79 goals (81)
1983: Neville Roberts, 112 goals (111)

Mike Coligan definitely kicked 81 goals in 1972, and Neville Roberts kicked 111 in 1983. I'll send you game by game tallies if you would like.

That would be good, thanks.

[Adelaide Hawk]

Michael Coligan 1972
22 games, 81 goals
Game tallies: 5, 6, 0, 4, 6, 6, 4, 2, 3, 4, 1, 3, 2, 3, 6, 1, 5, 7, 5, 5, 3, 0.

Neville Roberts 1983
22 games, 111 goals
Game tallies: 5, 2, 0, 8, 5, 4, x, 8, x, 9, 4, 6, 0, 9, 3, 2, 11, 3, 7, 4, 10, x, 2, 4, 5.
x = did not play

[Adelaide Hawk]

I can vouch for Coligan and Roberts (above) being correct. The following I cannot say for certain they are correct, but here are my records:

Tim Evans 1978 - 90 goals
Goal tallies: 1, 5, 1, 0, 4, 8, 3, 4, 2, 3, 0, 3, 3, 4, 1, 1, 6, 5, 8, 7, 5, 4, 10, 2, 0.

Trevor Pierson 1982 - 104 goals
Goal tallies: 6, 2, 2, 0, 7, 4, 4, 5, 6, 4, 2, 8, 3, 6, 3, 4, 6, 4, 11, 7, 7, 3.

Stephen Nichols 1988 - 103 goals
Goal tallies: 5, 1, 2, 0, 0, 5, 5, 11, 7, 1, 2, 7, 8, 2, 1, 6, 7, 1, 13, 6, 4, 9.

[spell_check]

Michael Coligan 1972
22 games, 81 goals
Game tallies: 5, 6, 0, 4, 6, 6, 4, 2, 3, 4, 1, 3, 2, 3, 6, 1, 5, 7, 5, 5, 3, 0.

Neville Roberts 1983
22 games, 111 goals
Game tallies: 5, 2, 0, 8, 5, 4, x, 8, x, 9, 4, 6, 0, 9, 3, 2, 11, 3, 7, 4, 10, x, 2, 4, 5.
x = did not play

The differences I had for Coligan were:
Round 5 - 5 goals 1 behind (You have 6 goals)
Round 17 - 4 goals 3 behinds (5 goals)

For Roberts:
Round 13 - 1 goal 5 behinds (0)

I just tallied up Evans again and he did add up to 90 goals.

For Pierson:
Round 3 - 7 goals 1 behind (2)

For Nichols:
Round 18 - 2 goals (1)

[nickname]

Page 112:

Club location is Milner Rd not Millner Rd.

Wooden spoons: 1073 should be 1973.

Page 113:

The heading should be 'West Adelaide Honour Board' not North Adelaide.

In 2000 our coach was Mick Taylor not Borchard.

In the 2005, 2006 and 2007 entries 'Piasante' should be 'Piasente'.

Page 114:

Under 1995 National Draft 'Daniel' Wheildon should be 'Darren'.

Under 2002 National Draft 'Freemantle' should be 'Fremantle'.

Page 115:

'Joseph Barling' should be 'Jackson Barling.'

'Ryan Blessing' should be 'Ryan Blesing'.

[JamesH]

I have noticed discrepancies between the head to head club v club totals between the 2006 and 2008 media guide.

An example is that the 2006 edition had Port v South (P 229, PA w 182, SA W 45, D 2), while the 2008 edition had (P 234 PA W 184, SA W, 48 D 2).

Between 2006 and 2006 the clubs played 6 times;

2006-R4-Alb PAM 17.15-117 d SA 11.8-74
2006-R12-Noa SA 24.18-162 d PAM 8.7-55
2006-EF-AO SA 18.12-120 d PAM 16.8-104
2007-R5-Alb PAM 12.18-90 d SA10.10-70
2007-R14-Noa SA 14.15-89 d PAM 11.10-76
2007-R18-Noa PAM 25.16-166 d SA 11.13-79

If using the 2004 edition as a base this means they would have played 235 times. I have noticed similar issues for Norwood v WWT, CD v West & Port v Sturt.

Were these figures re-tallied between media guides? Is the 2008 edition more likely to be correct?

[JamesH]

Error in the CD v Glenelg head to head tally

should be;

P CD G D
107 55 52 -