Reserves, Under 19s' and Under 17s' Grand Finals since 1945

[McAlmanac]

If I'm not mistaken, Bruce McAvaney captained a Woodville under age team in the 1970s.

Definitely played, not sure that he was captain. I think he captained Woodville High.

[Adelaide Hawk]

1960 Reserves Grand Final
NORWOOD 2-2 5-2 7-5 9-7 61
PORT ADEL 1-2 4-4 5-4 8-5 53
Goals
N: Webber 2 Davis 2 Daly 2 Woodhouse Swanbury Cock
PA: R.Johns 3 Zucker 3 Gill P.Fabian

1961 Reserves Grand Final
NORWOOD 2-5 5-7 10-13 12-17 89
WEST TORR 1-3 4-5 5-8 7-10 52
Goals
N: Fraser 2 Nicholls 2 Lloyd 2 Swanbury 2 Grantham Kite Cousins Farrow
WT: Isaac 2 Elfenbein 2 Klaffer Hanel Tucker

1962 Reserves Grand Final
WEST TORR 2-2 2-7 4-12 7-17 59
NORWOOD 1-4 3-6 5-8 5-8 38
Goals
WT: Isaac 2 Hine 2 Morrell Gibson Russell
N: Turbill 2 Simpson 2 Minervini

[Adelaide Hawk]

1961 Under 19 GF
NORTH ADEL 1-4 4-9 5-9 7-18 60
NORWOOD 2-3 2-4 6-11 6-12 48
Goals
NA: Blewett 3 Wright 2 Martin Bott
N: Allen 2 Bugg Lorenz Lewis Panczak

1962 Under 19 GF
PORT ADEL 4-3 6-3 10-6 10-8 68
NORWOOD 0-2 5-5 7-5 8-5 53
Goals
PA: Marsland 4 Burton Guthrie Knill Pilgrim Jarvis Keast
N: Allen 5 Burton Scarvella Prime

1963 Under 19 GF
NORWOOD 5-7 9-11 13-14 15-19 109
STURT 1-1 4-2 8-2 11-4 70
Goals
N: Woodcock 6 Prime 3 Martin 2 Burton 2 Della-Polina Staritski
S: Grant 4 Zoanetti 2 Brock 2 Whicker Aitken Kalleske

[Adelaide Hawk]

1960 U17 GF
GLENELG 0-2 0-3 1-5 3-10 28
NORTH ADEL 0-3 1-4 1-4 1-4 10
Goals
G: Neill 2 Mills
NA: Spicer

1961 U17 GF
PORT ADEL 11-9 75
STURT 6-10 46
No quarter by quarter breakdown
Goals
PA: Martin 3 Reid 3 Hanson Kelleway Pilgrim Whitby Holmes
S: Bagshaw 2 Besley 2 Hibbard Thomas

1962 U17 GF
WOODVILLE 1-1 4-2 5-2 84 52
SOUTH ADEL 1-2 3-2 3-3 6-3 39
Goal
W: Kelly 2 Horne 2 Hughes 2 Bastian Lee
SA: Angus Howe Holland Strapps Threadgold Cowling

1963 U17 GF
STURT 4-6 6-6 10-6 11-9 75
GLENELG 2-1 4-3 4-3 9-5 59
Goals
S: Deans 3 Chessell 2 Raymond 2 Thomas McCarthy Johnson Strelan
G: Winter 3 Hillier 2 Botten 2 Phillis Hawke

1964 U17 GF
WOODVILLE 3-5 4-6 7-8 7-8 50
NORTH ADEL 1-4 1-7 2-10 4-16 40
Goals
W: O'Connor 3 Reeves Sandery Roache Hale
NA: Von Bertouch 2 Murcott Jaworskyj

1965 U17 GF
NORWOOD 2-0 2-1 5-5 8-7 55
NORTH ADEL 3-1 6-4 8-4 8-5 53
Goals
N: Packer 3 Cekulis 2 Leake Grimwood Smith
NA: Stunden 3 Sachse 2 Von Bertouch Norton Day

1966 U17 GF
CENT DIST 1-5 3-8 9-10 10-10 70
WOODVILLE 1-2 5-3 6-3 8-5 53
Goals
CD: Muir 3 Swinstead 2 Swiderski 2 Warner Farnham Hind
W: MacVicar 2 Coward 2 Taggart 2 Blight Holland

1967 U17 GF
WOODVILLE 3-2 6-6 11-7 15-10 100
SOUTH ADEL 2-4 4-6 5-9 9-11 65
Goals
W: Blight 4 MacVicar 3 Summersides 3 Sewer Burgess Iron Coward Pedlar
SA: Schultz 3 Coombe 2 Allen Doody Reimann White

[Adelaide Hawk]

1974 U17 GF
STURT 2-3 5-6 6-9 8-13 61
NORWOOD 2-1 2-2 4-3 5-5 35
Goals
S: C.House 3 Harris 2 Borgas N.House Zilm
N: Palm 2 Bond Martin Murdoch

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Well done Hawk, which sources did you use?

[am Bays]

1961 U/17 GF, the boy Bagshaw looks like he can play, might have a future...

Same as that young lad Blight for Woodville in 66 & 67 GFs he might go on with it....

[Adelaide Hawk]

1961 U/17 GF, the boy Bagshaw looks like he can play, might have a future...

Same as that young lad Blight for Woodville in 66 & 67 GFs he might go on with it....

Yeah, that's why I put in the goalkickers, it adds some real interest to it I feel How was that Woodville team with Blight, MacVicar and Sewer, pretty useful group of players.

[Adelaide Hawk]

Well done Hawk, which sources did you use?

I was in the State Library yesterday researching something else and decided to look up some missing scores. I used mainly the Sunday Mail and Advertiser.

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Ok, next time I'm there I might get some as well.

[Leaping Lindner]

Good to see "The Von" Terry get amongst the goals for North Under 17's two years in a row. One of North's greatest. He was runner up in the best and fairest four times when he was at North - some bloke wearing #10 beat him on each occasion.
Also I wonder which Phillis that is for the Bays in 1963. Brian, Fred or Wayne?

[Adelaide Hawk]

Good to see "The Von" Terry get amongst the goals for North Under 17's two years in a row. One of North's greatest. He was runner up in the best and fairest four times when he was at North - some bloke wearing #10 beat him on each occasion.
Also I wonder which Phillis that is for the Bays in 1963. Brian, Fred or Wayne?

The thing that interested me about Terry Von Bertouch is that he played in the 1965 U17 GF, and yet he was captain of the North Adelaide U19 premiership team in 1966. From U17s to captain of the U19s the next season, they obviously rated the Von highly as a junior. The match report said North Adelaide were receiving a "ton" of supply into their forward lines by Von Bertouch. I know Norwood rated him very highly as well. He missed over 2 seasons of league footy and then stepped into the Norwood team like he'd been playing there for years. Greg Turbill said Von Bertouch was easily the best rover he played along side of.

Both Von Bertouch and Dennis Sachse U17 in 1965, U19 in 1966, league in 1967. There was a boy from Whyalla who joined them, a pretty useful trio of recruits. Robran came from Whyalla to play for the North Adelaide 2nds in their finals of 1966 (He even wore 10 for the seconds). He played centre in the losing 2nd Semi to Port Adelaide ans was high in the best players, and in the losing PF to Norwood he was North's best, this time playing at CHF.

I would think the Phillis in Glenelg's 1963 team would have to be Dennis "Fred" Phillis. Fred began his league career in 1966 whereas Wayne didn't play league until late 1967.

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I've updated the Reserves scores, now from 1952 onwards, and have used SnagIt to produce it in a more "eye friendly" way.

[Ecky]

I'm not sure if you guys heard, but someone rang up KG and Cornesy a couple weeks ago asking whether there was anyone who had played in a premiership in all 4 grades of the SANFL. They had no idea of course, but guessed that there would be very few.

I suspect that there are none, but can anyone confirm?

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I would very much doubt if there was a player who had done that.

[Leaping Lindner]

I'm not sure if you guys heard, but someone rang up KG and Cornesy a couple weeks ago asking whether there was anyone who had played in a premiership in all 4 grades of the SANFL. They had no idea of course, but guessed that there would be very few.

I suspect that there are none, but can anyone confirm?

The best bet would most likely come from Port given they dominated league and reserve flags in the late 50's and they also won the under 17s in 1951 and under 19s in 1953. That's a guess though.

[JamesH]

This is the info i have

JUNIOR CHAMPIONS MATCH
1968 West Torrens 9.11 (65) d University 7.9 (51)
1969 Norwood 15.16 (106) d University 9.13 (67)
1970 Norwood 23.20 (158) d Semaphore Central 12.8 (80)
1971 Central District 17.13 (115) d Teachers College 11.7 (73)

RECENT RESERVES FINAL FINISHING POSITIONS
YEAR CD G NA N PAM SA St WA WT W WWT
1974 4 2 8 1 6 9 5 10 7 3 -
1975 6 3 7 1 4 10 2 8 9 5 -
1976 4 5 2 1 9 8 3 10 7 6 -
1977 8 5 9 6 4 3 1 7 10 2 -
1978 7 10 3 1 6 4 5 2 8 9 -
1979 9 2 6 4 3 1 10 7 5 8 -
1980 3 2 5 6 1 9 8 4 7 10 -
1981 3 1 9 6 2 8 4 5 7 10 -
1982 6 1 9 5 4 7 2 3 8 10 -
1983 6 8 9 2 1 3 5 7 4 10 -
1984 9 4 7 2 3 8 5 6 1 10 -
1985 7 6 8 1 3 10 5 9 4 2 -
1986 3 5 9 1 4 10 7 8 6 2 -
1987 2 3 10 8 6 9 4 7 5 1 -
1988 4 3 7 6 1 10 9 8 5 2 -
1989 1 5 8 2 4 6 10 3 9 7 -
1990 10 3 8 4 2 9 6 5 1 7 -
1991 6 7 8 4 5 1 9 3 - - 2
1992 8 2 9 7 3 4 5 6 - - 1
1993 7 2 8 5 3 9 6 4 - - 1
1994 4 7 9 5 2 3 8 1 - - 6
1995 3 6 5 1 4 2 9 8 - - 7
1996 7 3 9 2 1 6 8 4 - - 5
1997 3 8 6 2 1 4 5 9 - - 7
1998 5 9 6 1 2 8 3 4 - - 7
1999 4 7 8 5 3 2 1 6 - - 5
2000 3 7 8 5 2 9 4 6 - - 1
2001 2 3 8 4 5 9 7 6 - - 1
2002 1 5 8 6 2 9 3 7 - - 4

RECENT UNDER 19S FINAL FINISHING POSITIONS
YEAR CD G NA N PAM SA St WA WT W WWT
1974 2 4 5 3 1 8 10 9 7 6 -
1975 10 5 9 4 1 6 8 2 7 3 -
1976 7 5 6 3 1 2 10 9 8 4 -
1977 7 6 5 4 1 3 2 10 9 8 -
1978 5 3 2 4 6 9 8 1 7 10 -
1979 4 1 9 6 3 5 2 7 8 10 -
1980 3 7 9 1 2 4 6 5 8 10 -
1981 1 6 9 2 3 7 4 5 10 8 -
1982 1 7 10 3 6 9 2 4 8 5 -
1983 10 4 7 1 4 5 2 6 9 8 -
1984 4 5 6 3 3 8 1 7 10 9 -
1985 3 4 7 1 2 9 8 5 10 6 -
1986 7 4 9 1 5 8 6 3 2 10 -
1987 3 4 9 2 6 8 1 7 5 10 -
1988 6 2 8 1 4 10 3 7 5 9 -
1989 5 3 8 2 4 9 7 10 1 6 -
1990 6 4 7 1 2 3 8 10 5 9 -
1991 7 8 5 3 1 2 4 9 - - 6
1992 8 1 7 2 3 6 4 6 - - 5
1993 6 4 8 5 3 1 7 1 - - 2
1994 4 6 8 3 5 1 7 1 - - 2
1995 2 6 5 1 3 7 8 7 - - 4
1996 6 4 8 2 3 9 5 9 - - 1
1997 3 9 7 1 4 6 5 6 - - 2
1998 5 6 8 4 2 7 3 7 - - 1
1999 3 6 7 8 1 4 5 4 - - 2
2000 6 3 9 4 2 7 8 7 - - 1
2001 6 2 7 9 1 5 8 4 - - 3
2002 7 2 8 5 3 4 9 1 - - 6

RECENT UNDER 17S FINAL FINISHING POSITIONS
YEAR CD G NA N PAM SA St WA WT W WWT
1974 9 7 3 2 8 6 1 4 10 5 -
1975 10 1 4 3 6 8 5 9 7 2 -
1976 4 2 5 6 9 10 1 7 8 3 -
1977 1 2 4 3 5 10 7 9 8 6 -
1978 2 3 8 4 1 7 9 10 5 6 -
1979 1 3 10 8 2 5 6 9 7 4 -
1980 3 5 9 2 4 7 1 8 6 10 -
1981 5 4 10 1 2 9 3 8 7 6 -
1982 7 4 2 1 3 8 5 10 6 9 -
1983 2 4 6 1 3 7 5 8 10 9 -
1984 6 4 2 1 5 9 3 8 7 10 -
1985 1 7 8 2 3 9 4 5 6 10 -
1986 3 6 4 1 5 9 2 7 8 10 -
1987 5 6 1 3 2 7 8 9 4 10 -
1988 8 4 3 1 2 5 7 9 6 10 -
1989 7 6 4 1 3 2 8 5 9 10 -
1990 7 6 2 3 5 1 4 10 9 8 -
1991 6 7 8 1 3 2 4 5 - - 9
1992 1 6 4 3 5 7 8 2 - - 9
1993 3 4 8 2 5 6 7 9 - - 1
1994 4 9 5 6 1 3 7 8 - - 2
1995 5 8 2 3 9 1 7 6 - - 4
1996 1 9 2 7 4 3 5 6 - - 8
1997 4 8 1 2 5 3 7 9 - - 6
1998 4 7 8 3 2 5 9 6 - - 1
1999 4 8 3 2 6 5 7 9 - - 1
2000 2 7 3 6 4 5 9 8 - - 1
2001 6 5 4 3 7 8 9 1 - - 2
2002 4 2 5 8 9 7 6 1 - - 3

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Updated to include this years results.

[FlyingHigh]

Woodville finished bottom in each grade in 1980.

What happened to Luke Spehr who won the BOG in 04 - thought he started to play some handy footy in the A's, and could have consolidated a spot over the last year if he was still there.

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Updated to include 1945 onwards.

I've wondered why until around 1962-64 odd the Colts and Senior Colts scores were so low. Shorter quarters perhaps?