Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

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Re: Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

Postby dedja » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:48 pm

small minds must think alike ;)
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Re: Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

Postby Hondo » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:48 pm

GWW wrote:And what of the more recent one with Andrew Jarman to Norwood in 1990. Presumably it was purely a personality clash with Nunan.


In the Pullitzer prize winning "Jarman Magic" he gives what seems a politically correct version of events that says he felt he needed a change after 6 seasons at North. His brother didn't seem to feel the same need to change and neither did most of his team-mates. In the book there's a copy of a "wish you all the best at Norwood" (no obvious malice) letter from Nunan to Jars. Reading between the lines it sounds like some kind of falling out.

I remember being in disbelief when the story of the move to Norwood was the sports headline in that Saturday Advertiser. I still remember the headline "Jarman the Redleg". I hated Norwood with a passion at the time so it was a worse case scenario. Ironically, Norwood only had 2 full seasons out of him because of the Crows coming in. Doug Smart moved over at the same time.

There's innuendo of a supposed falling out or clash before the 1989 Grand Final v Port but I've never known if that's just rumours. Anyone in the know prepared to spill the beans 20 years after the event?
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Re: Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

Postby Dirko » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:49 pm

GWW wrote:How many games would Neil Craig have played for Norwood and Sturt? Presumably he played more for the Redlegs than D Blues..


Nope he played more for Sturt. Well according to the quiz master at the quiz night I went to last Friday....

I got it right ;)
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Re: Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

Postby dedja » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:51 pm

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GWW wrote:How many games would Neil Craig have played for Norwood and Sturt? Presumably he played more for the Redlegs than D Blues..


Nope he played more for Sturt. Well according to the quiz master at the quiz night I went to last Friday....

I got it right ;)


Yeah, but how many for each? ... then there's a few with North as well.
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Re: Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:59 pm

GWW wrote:How many games would Neil Craig have played for Norwood and Sturt? Presumably he played more for the Redlegs than D Blues..


124 Norwood
134 Sturt
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Re: Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

Postby dedja » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:59 pm

That's OK, I'll work it out myself ;)

Neil Craig played 126 for Norwood, 134 for Sturt and 61 for North.
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Re: Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

Postby dedja » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:00 pm

... and AH to confirm correct weight ;)
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Re: Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

Postby GWW » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:09 pm

I was only young at the time, but i reckon Eddie Fry moved to Sturt from South around the same time as Neil Craig moved there from Norwood, may have even been the same year..

Also, Frank Spiel..what were his movements? He played for WT at the end of his career, and i think Sturt before that. Did he start off at South?
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Re: Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

Postby McAlmanac » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:13 pm

Why did Noel Pettingill go from Norwood to Sturt?

Grant Zubrinich, Nigel Wark, Robert Oatey and then the other way - Mick Nunan, Robbie Barton (seemed to be a rover swap mart). As dedja stated, it was a well worn track between Unley and the Parade.
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Re: Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:21 pm

McAlmanac wrote:Why did Noel Pettingill go from Norwood to Sturt?

Grant Zubrinich, Nigel Wark, Robert Oatey and then the other way - Mick Nunan, Robbie Barton (seemed to be a rover swap mart). As dedja stated, it was a well worn track between Unley and the Parade.


Most of Sturt's premiership were coached by former Norwood players.

Pettingill couldn't get a regular game, neither could Nigel Wark nor Zubrinich. Wark in particular did very well at his new club, playing in the 76 premiership team.
After being dismissed as coach at the end of 1973, Oatey wouldn't have felt it appropriate to stay with Norwood. Understandable, as he would have thought he should still have been coaching after doing the hard yards, and Norwood on the cusp of premiership success.
It was a good move by Oatey as he played in his one and only premiership for the Blues in 1974.

Nunan went overseas and was informed by Jack Oatey that there was no spot for him to return to should he wish to go back to Sturt, so he transferred to Norwood where he played in their 1 point premiership win over Sturt in 1978. Nunan was a very satisfied man in the clubrooms that evening, believe me.

I really have no idea why Winter and Barton transfered to Norwood in 1979. Didn't really care at the time, just pleased to have them aboard, although Barton didn't play a lot of footy for Norwood.
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Re: Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:24 pm

GWW wrote:I was only young at the time, but i reckon Eddie Fry moved to Sturt from South around the same time as Neil Craig moved there from Norwood, may have even been the same year..

Also, Frank Spiel..what were his movements? He played for WT at the end of his career, and i think Sturt before that. Did he start off at South?


I think Spiel went from South to Sturt to Torrens.
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Re: Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

Postby dedja » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:25 pm

Isn't there a get together this year for the players that swapped between Sturt and Norwood? ... anyway, there seemed to be so many.
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Re: Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:26 pm

dedja wrote:Isn't there a get together this year for the players that swapped between Sturt and Norwood? ... anyway, there seemed to be so many.


Socio-economically similar clubs.
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Re: Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

Postby dedja » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:28 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
dedja wrote:Isn't there a get together this year for the players that swapped between Sturt and Norwood? ... anyway, there seemed to be so many.


Socio-economically similar clubs.


equates to incest ;)
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Re: Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:36 pm

dedja wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:
dedja wrote:Isn't there a get together this year for the players that swapped between Sturt and Norwood? ... anyway, there seemed to be so many.


Socio-economically similar clubs.


equates to incest ;)


Back in the 70s and 80s, the best games to watch in terms of pure skill were Norwood v Sturt matches. The games were always open fast moving affairs and a pleasure to watch.

Norwood v Port Adelaide or Norwood v Glenelg matches were great as well, but different types of games entirely to the Norwood-Sturt ones.

I think Norwood players could adapt more easily to Sturt's style and vice-versa.
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Re: Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

Postby dedja » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:10 am

Here's a few others:

Milan Faletic - Torrens to Port - greater chance of success or other?
Ralph Sewer - Woodville to Glenelg - greater chance of success or other?
Keith Kuhlmann - West to Glenelg - greater chance of success or other?
John Paynter - Glenelg to Sturt - lifelong Sturt supporter who followed Halbert to Sturt
Neville Roberts - Torrens, Richmond then Norwood - why not Torrens when he returned?
John Roberts - Woodville, South Melbourne, Torrens, North - why did he move so many times?
Glynn & Darryl Hewitt - West, Richmond, Woodville, South - why so many clubs?
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Re: Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

Postby GWW » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:15 am

I never knew Paynter was a life long Sturt supporter.

Also there's Peter Meuret who i think came to Woodville from Broken Hill, barely played a game, returned to Broken Hill briefly, only to return to Adelaide to play for West. Hard to believe a player of his quality couldn't make it at Woodville, or was there more to it?
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Re: Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:16 am

dedja wrote:Neville Roberts - Torrens, Richmond then Norwood - why not Torrens when he returned?


He did return to West Torrens. He played for them from 1978 to 1981, captaining the club in 80 & 81, before moving to Norwood in 1982.

I think a lot of players in that era from lower clubs transfered simply because they wanted to win a flag before retirement.
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Re: Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

Postby GWW » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:17 am

Clayton Lamb would be in that category too.
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Re: Famous inter-club transfers ... why did they do it?

Postby dedja » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:23 am

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
dedja wrote:Neville Roberts - Torrens, Richmond then Norwood - why not Torrens when he returned?


He did return to West Torrens. He played for them from 1978 to 1981, captaining the club in 80 & 81, before moving to Norwood in 1982.

I think a lot of players in that era from lower clubs transfered simply because they wanted to win a flag before retirement.


Yep you're right ... again, I forgot that he came back to Torrens first. Didn't he have some hassles in the transfer to Norwood or is that my imagination?
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