quirky things you learn

[stampy]

At one stage I also knew the Cleggett family at Laura who bred and raced them -

The Gleggetts used to live across the road from my Grandparents at Laura............small world SA

did they know the cleggetts?

[mal]

From the archives
6/6/1910
Nearly every foot of space on Lindsay Circus oval was covered on Saturday by eager spectators, who attended to see the football match between WT and NW.
The mound on the Milner Street side, which is nearly completed, gave increased accomodation
Over 8,000 were present, and they were kept up to a pitch of excitement throughout the game.
The victory that fell to WT was well won and deserved
It was noticeable that the goal posts at each end of the arena was not upright
This is a defect which might easily be remedied

QUESTION
Was this oval the current Hindmarsh soccer Staduim ?

[mal]

Robert Menzies was at the 1964 Sanfl Grand Final
Thats how long its been since SA won a premiership

[robranisgod]

From the archives
6/6/1910
Nearly every foot of space on Lindsay Circus oval was covered on Saturday by eager spectators, who attended to see the football match between WT and NW.
The mound on the Milner Street side, which is nearly completed, gave increased accomodation
Over 8,000 were present, and they were kept up to a pitch of excitement throughout the game.
The victory that fell to WT was well won and deserved
It was noticeable that the goal posts at each end of the arena was not upright
This is a defect which might easily be remedied

QUESTION
Was this oval the current Hindmarsh soccer Staduim ?

You are correct, Lindsay Circus is in fact where the Hindmarsh stadium now is. It was West Torrens home until about 1920. Some cynics would say that consider West Torrens uniform with the big eagle looked like a clown's outfit, playing at a Circus would be quite appropriate.

[robranisgod]

Robert Menzies was at the 1964 Sanfl Grand Final
Thats how long its been since SA won a premiership

And Joe Lyons was Prime Minister when they won their previous premiership before that. How many people remember Joe Lyons as Australian Prime Minister, I guess about the same number as whom remember multiple South premierships!!!

[mal]

Was it a backman that kicked the first goal for SA in the 1964 Grand Final ? ...

[Adelaide Hawk]

Was it a backman that kicked the first goal for SA in the 1964 Grand Final ? ...

One named Lindsay perhaps?

[on the rails]

Robert Menzies was at the 1964 Sanfl Grand Final
Thats how long its been since SA won a premiership

And Joe Lyons was Prime Minister when they won their previous premiership before that. How many people remember Joe Lyons as Australian Prime Minister, I guess about the same number as whom remember multiple South premierships!!!

I think you meant to say how many people were alive rather than remember him! Wouldn't be too many?

[am Bays]

And maybe it was Federation that caused them to cease being a SAFL "power". North people blame Jars, maybe South people can blame Parkes....

Here's me thinking it was the creation of Sturt that caused South's demise...

[on the rails]

And maybe it was Federation that caused them to cease being a SAFL "power". North people blame Jars, maybe South people can blame Parkes....

Here's me thinking it was the creation of Sturt that caused South's demise...

What's Glenelg's excuse then? LOL

[am Bays]

It's just the vibe... Oh and Peter Mead...

I mean Sturt supporters still blame Foster, we may as well blame Peter Mead...

[robranisgod]

And maybe it was Federation that caused them to cease being a SAFL "power". North people blame Jars, maybe South people can blame Parkes....

Here's me thinking it was the creation of Sturt that caused South's demise...

It is funny that you blame federation, because I can remember Charles Knuckey the famous South bemefactor blaming the electorate system coming into existance and then South losing Kent Town for their demise as a power. Given that happened at the same time as federation, your are around the mark.

As an aside, Charles Knuckey, I believe lived until he was 99 years of age and died somewhere in the mid 1970s, so he was probably the last person who ever remembered South being an absolute power.

Historically, too, Sturt have had long periods when they haven't been a power. We all remember their 8 wooden spoons in a row, but until their golden era in the 1960s-70s, they had only won five premierships

[robranisgod]

Was it a backman that kicked the first goal for SA in the 1964 Grand Final ? ...

One named Lindsay perhaps?

And a backman, but not called Linday kicked a vital goal, just before half time in that match.

Dick Jackson, the South Centre Half Back kicked that goal. I still remember the half time score of 5 goals t binds to 10 behinds. What a difference straight kicking makes.

[spell_check]

A few columns in Rodney Cockburns' "South Australia - What's in a name" under Hindmarsh, says:

(regarding the establishment of the Hindmarsh area) "A committee was appointed to prevent the removal of trees and George Milner Stephen and Arthur Fydell Lindsay were chosen as trustees. Lindsay (hence Lindsay Circus) undertook the surveying, and when the work was finished, he went around and delivered the deed with a spadeful of earth to each proprietor as he took possession of the lot".

This is about the opening of the oval:
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/ar ... as+Lindsay

[Leaping Lindner]

+ South Adelaide's first match was played against Woodville !
+ Behinds were first counted towards the score in 1897.
+ A single Red flag use to be waved to signal a goal.
+ The North Adelaide (#1) of the 1880s was called the Tigers, and wore orange and black. When they disappeared Gawler adopted it when it joined the SAFA. Since Gawler disappeared this colour combination has never been used.
+ The Adelaide football club that played in the 1880s and early 1890s wore red and black. They disappeared in 1894 and West Adelaide adopted the colours when they later joined the SAFA.
+ When Medindie and North Adelaide(#2) both joined the SAFA in 1888 they both had as their colours red and white. When it was realised that a colour clash would occur when the teams met in Round 2 a meeting of the SAFA was called. It was voted 7-6 that Medindie would keep the red and white and North Adelaide (#2) would add blue to their colours. North "merged" with Adelaide at the end of that season , and that colour combination disappeared from the SANFL until Central joined. Medindie went on playing in red and white and maintain the colours to this day. After changing their name to North Adelaide in 1893. (NB: The North Adelaide that plays today is the third version of North Adelaide to play SAFA/SAFL/SANFL and has no relationship to the previous two).

[robranisgod]

+ South Adelaide's first match was played against Woodville !
+ Behinds were first counted towards the score in 1897.
+ A single Red flag use to be waved to signal a goal.
+ The North Adelaide (#1) of the 1880s was called the Tigers, and wore orange and black. When they disappeared Gawler adopted it when it joined the SAFA. Since Gawler disappeared this colour combination has never been used.
+ The Adelaide football club that played in the 1880s and early 1890s wore red and black. They disappeared in 1894 and West Adelaide adopted the colours when they later joined the SAFA.
+ When Medindie and North Adelaide(#2) both joined the SAFA in 1888 they both had as their colours red and white. When it was realised that a colour clash would occur when the teams met in Round 2 a meeting of the SAFA was called. It was voted 7-6 that Medindie would keep the red and white and North Adelaide (#2) would add blue to their colours. North "merged" with Adelaide at the end of that season , and that colour combination disappeared from the SANFL until Central joined. Medindie went on playing in red and white and maintain the colours to this day. After changing their name to North Adelaide in 1893. (NB: The North Adelaide that plays today is the third version of North Adelaide to play SAFA/SAFL/SANFL and has no relationship to the previous two).

Leaping Lindner, was Victoria or Victorians who shared the 1877 flag a forerunner of Medindie or of one of the other two North Adelaide sides who bore no relationship to the current North Adelaide dingoes.

[Leaping Lindner]

+ South Adelaide's first match was played against Woodville !
+ Behinds were first counted towards the score in 1897.
+ A single Red flag use to be waved to signal a goal.
+ The North Adelaide (#1) of the 1880s was called the Tigers, and wore orange and black. When they disappeared Gawler adopted it when it joined the SAFA. Since Gawler disappeared this colour combination has never been used.
+ The Adelaide football club that played in the 1880s and early 1890s wore red and black. They disappeared in 1894 and West Adelaide adopted the colours when they later joined the SAFA.
+ When Medindie and North Adelaide(#2) both joined the SAFA in 1888 they both had as their colours red and white. When it was realised that a colour clash would occur when the teams met in Round 2 a meeting of the SAFA was called. It was voted 7-6 that Medindie would keep the red and white and North Adelaide (#2) would add blue to their colours. North "merged" with Adelaide at the end of that season , and that colour combination disappeared from the SANFL until Central joined. Medindie went on playing in red and white and maintain the colours to this day. After changing their name to North Adelaide in 1893. (NB: The North Adelaide that plays today is the third version of North Adelaide to play SAFA/SAFL/SANFL and has no relationship to the previous two).

Leaping Lindner, was Victoria or Victorians who shared the 1877 flag a forerunner of Medindie or of one of the other two North Adelaide sides who bore no relationship to the current North Adelaide dingoes.

Victorians became North Adelaide (Mark #1) in 1883. They survived two seasons before disappearing. No relationship whatsoever to the current chooks.
Interestingly it's been accepted for many years that they were called Victorians due to the amount of ex-Victorians in the team but I have a feeling they may be named after the electoral district. The district of North Adelaide was known as Victoria for many years. Calls for further investigation me thinks.

[Ian]

At one stage I also knew the Cleggett family at Laura who bred and raced them -

The Gleggetts used to live across the road from my Grandparents at Laura............small world SA

did they know the cleggetts?

Very well, they only moved from Laura to the old folks home @ Booleroo 18 months ago after 50 or 60 years there.

[FattyLumpkin]

jubilee oval (behind the university off north terrace) held both sanfl games & harness racing meetings including the first night meeting of harness racing

Jubilee Oval circa 1900(or thereabouts)

Rugby Union posts?? And a grandstand!! Was it in the corner of Frome Rd & that road that runs btw the Uni & The Torrens (sorry been a while since I lived in SA)

Not quite in that corner, I'm fairly sure it is pretty much where the Barr Smith lawns are now.
The building on the middle left is the old part of the Barr Smith library which is still there today, so the photo is looking west, and the road at the top right is Victoria Drive (the road between the uni and the Torrens).

This from the Adelaide Uni Footy Club 75th Anniversary book.

"One of the main factors holding back the emergence of strong University sports teams in the early days was the lack of good playing fields. A committee to look into the question of recreation areas in 1899 had been ineffectual. The MSS Review reported in August 1908 that efforts had finally been made by the University Council to secure a suitable sports ground. An area adjacent to Frome St in the parklands was being considered by the Adelaide City Council"


Why, if Jubilee Oval right in the middle of the Uni, was there "a lack of good playing fields"??? Book has a pic from 1926 - it appears the old Jubilee Oval was no more.

[Leaping Lindner]

This from the Adelaide Uni Footy Club 75th Anniversary book.

"One of the main factors holding back the emergence of strong University sports teams in the early days was the lack of good playing fields. A committee to look into the question of recreation areas in 1899 had been ineffectual. The MSS Review reported in August 1908 that efforts had finally been made by the University Council to secure a suitable sports ground. An area adjacent to Frome St in the parklands was being considered by the Adelaide City Council"


Why, if Jubilee Oval right in the middle of the Uni, was there "a lack of good playing fields"??? Book has a pic from 1926 - it appears the old Jubilee Oval was no more.

I've read a little bit about Jubilee Oval and from what I gathered it was rather cramped to start with. And it became more cramped as the Uni expanded.
The SAFA used Jubilee Oval as it major ground in 1904 (due to the dispute with SACA over use of Adelaide Oval - some things never change ), and I have a feeling this was the death knell for Jubilee as it was realised that it wasn't functional as an ongoing ground for league football. Especially as crowds were on the rise, and, as I mentioned the outer at Jubilee Oval was shrinking.
It was still used for some games right up until the early 20's, but less and less. In fact I have a feeling something like 5 or 6 games were played there after the Great War until it closed in the early 20's.
Mind you it could also be a convenient excuse for those who didn't want Uni in the league!
The oval that the Uni uses now was (or very near to) Norwood's original home ground, and the ground that Medindie used as a home when it was in the ASA before it joined the SAFA.