Most goals NOT to have won the club's goalkicking award

[baggy8]

What did the next best North player kick in 1987 when John Roberts kicked 111? Craig Burton / Darren Jarman would have been close to 40 or 50 each?

Craig Burton 51

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1985 Stephen Kernahan (Glg) 70 (Stephen Copping 78)
Bob Beecroft (Wood) 68 (Malcolm Blight 126)
Peter Johnston (WT) 66 (John Roberts 84)

Incredible to think that Woodville came bottom and Torrens second bottom with two forwards scoring so many goals.

Although Torrens did score 365 goals; Woodville scored 408! Not even the highest scoring team this year will do that.

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The seasons since 2000 I have show the highest 2nd for a club:

2000: 42 - Daniel Stevens (Central): 65 - Sam McArdle
2001: 41 - Scott Hahn (West); 84 - Adam Richardson
2002: 42 - Brodie Atkinson (Sturt); 61 - Brant Chambers
2003: 41 - Bryan Beinke (Port); 46 - Paul Evans
2004: 36 - Sam Phillipou (Eagles); 38 - Vincenzo Rugolo
2005: 40 - Vincenzo Rugolo (Eagles); 46 - Mark Passador
2006: 55 - Damian Cupido (South); 64 - Ben Warren
2007: 48 - Clint Alleway (North); 49 - Heath Younie
2008: 45 - Justin McConnell (Glenelg); 56 - Todd Grima
2009: 34 - Chad O'Sullivan (Central); 35 - Eddie Sansbury

[FlyingHigh]

That's an average of 16.5 and 18.5 goals respectively, but I believe 1981 or 82 is the highest scoring year on record, how do they compare, especially 82 when Pierson kicked the ton and we won only one game?

Know it's the WAFL, but Stephen Malaxos kicked a heap of goals one year, perhaps 80-90 and another Claremont player kicked well over the ton.

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That's an average of 16.5 and 18.5 goals respectively, but I believe 1981 or 82 is the highest scoring year on record, how do they compare, especially 82 when Pierson kicked the ton and we won only one game?

Know it's the WAFL, but Stephen Malaxos kicked a heap of goals one year, perhaps 80-90 and another Claremont player kicked well over the ton.

1985 is the highest scoring year - 17.55 goals 13.69 behinds on average. 1982 is next, with 17.03 and 13.70.

[Squawk]

what's the lowest number of goals kicked to win the leading goalkicker award in one season?

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The lowest to win the Ken Farmer Medal is 63 goals by Daniel Schell in 2004.

[Squawk]

The lowest to win the Ken Farmer Medal is 63 goals by Daniel Schell in 2004.

Really? I was imagining we must have had a season where 40-45 goals had won it, sometime since 1907.

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The lowest to win the Ken Farmer Medal is 63 goals by Daniel Schell in 2004.

Really? I was imagining we must have had a season where 40-45 goals had won it, sometime since 1907.

That was the lowest to win the Ken Farmer i.e. since 1981. The SANFL actually has a more accurate table of leading goalkickers now (Adam Richardson not credited with 100 goals in 1998 for example).

http://www.sanfl.com.au/the_sanfl/leading_goalkickers/

Edit: What the table Ken Farmer Medal board shows is the leading goalkicker for the minor round only from 1996 onwards! Before then it includes goals scored in the finals too.

[Squawk]

what's the lowest number of goals kicked to win the leading goalkicker award in one season?

Well,

for all time - Norwood has that record (3 times over LOL)
1880 J Traynor Norwood 7
1881 E Pollock Norwood 7 and W J Duffy Norwood 7

Since 1907 - another Norwood one!
1909 R Townsend Norwood 22

Since 1981 (for a minute I thought it was going to be Norwood again with Jim West's 73 in 1997!)
2004 D Schell Central 63

[Magpiespower]

West's top 7 in 1983 were even better:

Pretty sure Port '80 and West '83 are the two highest scoring teams of all-time...

[Adelaide Hawk]

Edit: What the table Ken Farmer Medal board shows is the leading goalkicker for the minor round only from 1996 onwards! Before then it includes goals scored in the finals too.

I'm interested in whether the Ken Farmer medal only starts from the year it was inaugurated. If they were to ever award them retrospectively, it would be interesting what they would do about 1966 because Ian Brewer was the leading goalkicker at the end of the minor round with 76, one head of Eric Freeman on 75. Freeman booted 6 more in the finals and ended on 81.

[Magpiespower]

I'm interested in whether the Ken Farmer medal only starts from the year it was inaugurated. If they were to ever award them retrospectively, it would be interesting what they would do about 1966 because Ian Brewer was the leading goalkicker at the end of the minor round with 76, one head of Eric Freeman on 75. Freeman booted 6 more in the finals and ended on 81.

Generally not a fan of retrospectively handing out awards. Not even those Magarey Medals. Reakon the history of the game shouldn't be stuffed around with because of the prevailing wisdom of the day.

In '93, Ablett won the Coleman with 124 goals.

But with some finals games Modra became the league's leading goalkicker with 129...

[Adelaide Hawk]

I'm interested in whether the Ken Farmer medal only starts from the year it was inaugurated. If they were to ever award them retrospectively, it would be interesting what they would do about 1966 because Ian Brewer was the leading goalkicker at the end of the minor round with 76, one head of Eric Freeman on 75. Freeman booted 6 more in the finals and ended on 81.

Generally not a fan of retrospectively handing out awards. Not even those Magarey Medals. Reakon the history of the game shouldn't be stuffed around with because of the prevailing wisdom of the day.

In '93, Ablett won the Coleman with 124 goals.

But with some finals games Modra became the league's leading goalkicker with 129...

I just always felt it strange that we included finals in goalkicking tallies, and yet we've never included finals in Magarey Medal voting. Double standard.

[CK]

I'm interested in whether the Ken Farmer medal only starts from the year it was inaugurated. If they were to ever award them retrospectively, it would be interesting what they would do about 1966 because Ian Brewer was the leading goalkicker at the end of the minor round with 76, one head of Eric Freeman on 75. Freeman booted 6 more in the finals and ended on 81.

Generally not a fan of retrospectively handing out awards. Not even those Magarey Medals. Reakon the history of the game shouldn't be stuffed around with because of the prevailing wisdom of the day.

In '93, Ablett won the Coleman with 124 goals.

But with some finals games Modra became the league's leading goalkicker with 129...

I just always felt it strange that we included finals in goalkicking tallies, and yet we've never included finals in Magarey Medal voting. Double standard.

Gives a big advantage to players from five teams if we do, particularly if a team rose from fourth or fifth to win a flag - I see what you mean about goalkicking tallies though, that should cease at final minor round game.

[CK]

I'm interested in whether the Ken Farmer medal only starts from the year it was inaugurated. If they were to ever award them retrospectively, it would be interesting what they would do about 1966 because Ian Brewer was the leading goalkicker at the end of the minor round with 76, one head of Eric Freeman on 75. Freeman booted 6 more in the finals and ended on 81.

Generally not a fan of retrospectively handing out awards. Not even those Magarey Medals. Reakon the history of the game shouldn't be stuffed around with because of the prevailing wisdom of the day.

In '93, Ablett won the Coleman with 124 goals.

But with some finals games Modra became the league's leading goalkicker with 129...

I just always felt it strange that we included finals in goalkicking tallies, and yet we've never included finals in Magarey Medal voting. Double standard

Gives a big advantage to players from five teams if we do include Magarey voting, particularly if a team rose from fourth or fifth to win a flag - I see what you mean about goalkicking tallies though, that should cease at final minor round game.

[baggy8]

Have to disagree with you there CK. The Magarey Medal and the Ken Farmer Medal are awards and in the interests of fairness pertain to the minor round only. 'Leading goalkicker' is not an award; it is a title which by itself gives the player nothing more than the honour and glory of a place in the record books. Goals in finals have always counted in every league in the country and should continue to do so. What could be worse than a player kicking 109 goals in a season and the record books showing him as 97, because 12 of those goals were 'only in finals'?

[baggy8]

Both interesting and surprising that the Freeman/Brewer-type scenario hasn't arisen since 1966. The closest we've come to it was in 2000 when Chris Kluzek's only kick for the day in the last quarter of the GF brought him level with Adam Richardson.

[Adelaide Hawk]

Both interesting and surprising that the Freeman/Brewer-type scenario hasn't arisen since 1966. The closest we've come to it was in 2000 when Chris Kluzek's only kick for the day in the last quarter of the GF brought him level with Adam Richardson.

Yes, almost remarkable isn't it? I know this is a different sport, different level, etc, but years ago I was 11 wickets ahead in our club's award for most wickets at the end of the minor round. A player in a lower grade snared 12 in the finals (great effort) to beat me by 1 .... just wanted to get that off my chest

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That table should only show the minor round goals because that's what the medal is for. But it includes finals goals before 1997. I pointed that out because it should all be minor round goals. Then, in a separate table, all seasons' leading goalkicker should be shown.