Jarman and the redlegs

[Madrooster]

Sus, you are obviously entitled to your opinion, and I dont disagree with everything that you have said, but many people, including you seem to question the coaching ability of a guy who took a group of players who had won one game the previous year, added some no names (who ended up being good performers) and a couple of fringe players from other clubs and melded them into a side that played finals in both of the following two seasons.

If it was anyone else except Jarman, I think that he would have received wholesale praise for the results he has obtained.

He may not be everyones cup of tea - but I for one think he is a dead set legend !!

[Wedgie]

Pretty sure we got the points against the Roosters at Prossie that year, with "Notso" been one of the main reasons, as part of an 8+ game winning streak that also included wins over Port and the Bays iirc

Right you are CP, we won by 32 and 69 pts at Norwood that year and Norwood won by 32 pts at Prossie. When I watch the DVD of those games I'm still amazed Norwood only came 5th that year, they had an absolutely awesome team as far as player talent goes.

I've always been in a minority rating Andrew a player I'd rather have in my team than Darren (well I'd prefer them both!) as AJ was a lot more consistent and got the ball out of the guts all the time with his clever play. Darren was more "brilliant" but did go missing at times, I really enjoyed his games at Full Forward in 1990 though when Nunan cleared everyone else out of the 50m area. Probably not fair to compare them as completely different players IMHO.

[Ian]

But as a coach I think the jury is still out. I lost a lot of respect for him as a coach/leader when I saw first hand the way he 'trash talked" young Luke Peel at Woodville Oval from the sidelines soon after leaving.

He wouldn't have said anything that North supporters hadn't already been saying for a couple of years, the only person that seemed to realy rate Luke Peel was Luke Peel himself.

[Wedgie]

He wouldn't have said anything that North supporters hadn't already been saying for a couple of years, the only person that seemed to realy rate Luke Peel was Luke Peel himself.

Amen to that!

[rod_rooster]

Pretty sure we got the points against the Roosters at Prossie that year, with "Notso" been one of the main reasons, as part of an 8+ game winning streak that also included wins over Port and the Bays iirc

Right you are CP, we won by 32 and 69 pts at Norwood that year and Norwood won by 32 pts at Prossie. When I watch the DVD of those games I'm still amazed Norwood only came 5th that year, they had an absolutely awesome team as far as player talent goes.

I've always been in a minority rating Andrew a player I'd rather have in my team than Darren (well I'd prefer them both!) as AJ was a lot more consistent and got the ball out of the guts all the time with his clever play. Darren was more "brilliant" but did go missing at times, I really enjoyed his games at Full Forward in 1990 though when Nunan cleared everyone else out of the 50m area. Probably not fair to compare them as completely different players IMHO.

Till 91 i'd rate Andrew ahead of Darren but after that there is little comparrison. Andrew has the quickest hands i have ever seen and he could slot into any side even today and still be productive. Darren, however, became the footballer everyone wants in their side. The guy that can not only win a game off his own boot but a guy who can win the big games off his own boot.

Either way both were incredible players.

[Jimmy]

he could slot into any side even today and still be productive.

maybe if he lost 50lbs and somehow reduced his age by 10 years he could

gee, some of these north fans i tell ya

[Magpiespower]

When I watch the DVD of those games I'm still amazed Norwood only came 5th that year, they had an absolutely awesome team as far as player talent goes.

These high possession, handball happy Norwood teams always came unstuck at finals time.

March premiers every year.

[Rik E Boy]

When I watch the DVD of those games I'm still amazed Norwood only came 5th that year, they had an absolutely awesome team as far as player talent goes.

These high possession, handball happy Norwood teams always came unstuck at finals time.

March premiers every year.

Looking back, I think the difference between, well Port and the rest is that while the Norwoods and Glenelgs still played some (or at least patches of) decent footy in September, they didn't shift up a gear the way Port did year after year. However, I can still think of a couple of times when we weren't March premiers, ie. 1984 and 1997. These Centrals fans still have yet to taste the ultimate in SANFL success, winning a Grand Final against the Magpies. Rest assured pooches there is nothing better. Maybe this year

regards,

REB

[Booney]

Would you STOP bringing up '97,Norwood,Cows aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[JK]

MP, as much as I hate to say it, there is genuine substance to your comment there imo ... However, in the year in question I think our demise was for other factors, injuries took a toll and I'm pretty sure something was not right behind the scenes, and the playing group had become too accustomed/close to our coach at the time (who subsequently moved on quite possibly for those reasons at the seasons end).

Our downfall that year actually came well before the finals, and I still believe (opinion again I know) that at our best we were as good as anyone, however, for whatever reason, the results never lie and history shows we finished fifth after bowing out in the Elimination final against South (thankfully that can't be said too often lol).

Wedgie, I must admit as a Macca fan, and being fairly young at the time I probably didn't pay A. Jarman enough respect in my own mind, and as we get older we can better appreciate a players talent and contribution, and no doubt Jars was outstanding in that area, but I must admit, ever since I witnessed a young Darren Jarman on the boundary line in the 87' GF kicking "that" goal, I've always been amazed by his ability and marvelled at it right through til his retirement from the AFL scene.

[Royal City]

These Centrals fans still have yet to taste the ultimate in SANFL success, winning a Grand Final against the Magpies. Rest assured pooches there is nothing better. Maybe this year

I understand what you mean about beating Port in a GF (we'd love to) but isn't this defining your own successes based on someone else?? Frankly I couldn't care less if we beat Onka's in an SANFL G-F. You don't get any more trophies for beating Port

[am Bays]

These Centrals fans still have yet to taste the ultimate in SANFL success, winning a Grand Final against the Magpies. Rest assured pooches there is nothing better. Maybe this year

I understand what you mean about beating Port in a GF (we'd love to) but isn't this defining your own successes based on someone else?? Frankly I couldn't care less if we beat Onka's in an SANFL G-F. You don't get any more trophies for beating Port

Yep anyone can beat the cocks in a GF, 1934 was pretty special beating the wharfie scum!!

I remember it as if it was yesterday....

[Rik E Boy]

Would you STOP bringing up '97,Norwood,Cows aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

AARON KEATING!! Two flags in seven days, then pissed off. Bloody legend. Nice work if you can get it ha ha.

regards,

REB

[Rik E Boy]

These Centrals fans still have yet to taste the ultimate in SANFL success, winning a Grand Final against the Magpies. Rest assured pooches there is nothing better. Maybe this year

I understand what you mean about beating Port in a GF (we'd love to) but isn't this defining your own successes based on someone else?? Frankly I couldn't care less if we beat Onka's in an SANFL G-F. You don't get any more trophies for beating Port

You see, it is the trophies that define your success, I am talking about the additional satisfaction of beating the Barnacles. Besides, aren't Centrals already beating Onkas to win these two team in the AFL cut price SANFL premierships? *REF: 'tinpot dynasty'

regards,

REB

[sus]

Ian wrote and Wedgie agreed - He wouldn't have said anything that North supporters hadn't already been saying for a couple of years, the only person that seemed to realy rate Luke Peel was Luke Peel himself.

My issue isnt about Jarman's opinion of Luke Peel. He was entitled to think whatever he liked - good or bad. It was about his behaviour on that particular day at that moment. He wasnt there as a average football supporter he was there in his capacity as the leader/head coach of the NAFC - his actions were totally unprofessional and his verbal was mindless babble. What kind of example is he setting for his young men?

[drebin]

Don't worry sus - Jars has been spoken to by club officials re a couple of his emotional but misguided outbursts in public. Hopefully it is a thing of the past. For what is worth I agree with it being unprofessional - let the supporters like the "Groggies" hang shit on others

[sus]

Don't worry sus - Jars has been spoken to by club officials re a couple of his emotional but misguided outbursts in public. Hopefully it is a thing of the past.

In that case credit to the NAFC for taking action.

[drebin]

The club likes to keep publicity of an adverse or negative nature underwraps or not be involved in public spats and comments on certain issues e.g. current salary cap finger pointing going around. I can tell you our President is "fuming" and would love to make public comment to dispel some rumours and mistruths etc. He is doing a bit of yelling and fist banging at the league table though!!!

[Wedgie]

ever since I witnessed a young Darren Jarman on the boundary line in the 87' GF kicking "that" goal, I've always been amazed by his ability and marvelled at it right through til his retirement from the AFL scene.

The even better thing about "that" goal was Mick Parson's shepherd on the Glenelg clown with his elbow. Classic stuff.
What an infamous pocket that one is!

[Magpiespower]

However, I can still think of a couple of times when we weren't March premiers, ie. 1984 and 1997.

I seem to recall one or two years in that time when we weren't March premiers either...