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Re: 1960's SANFL

Postby GWW » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:55 pm

Talking of Fos, I believe he was related to Lindsay Head? Cousins I think? Anyone know any further details re the family connection?
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Re: 1960's SANFL

Postby redandblack » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:01 pm

Most of those West players formed the backbone of the 1961 side.

Frank Hogan was a really neat rover with a very accurate short pass (can't remember if it was a stab pass or not?)

Paul Garnett was a half-forward flanker, not a big possession winner, but he had a wonderful kick and was very dangerous within his range of goals.

Alan "Trigger" Tregenza played full-back. A reliable defender, a bit undersized IIRC, but very few kicked man on him.

In those days, West were known to have a 'mosquito fleet' and their clashes with Port in the late 50's were the major clashes of hat time.
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Re: 1960's SANFL

Postby GWW » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:08 pm

Without doing too much research on the matter, is it fair to say West had some very good sides in the 1950's and 1960's and in hindsight they didn't get the reward they might have hoped for. I just did a quick search and note the only premiership they won in those 2 decades was 1961. They had some very good players..was it a combination of a little bit of bad luck (eg. hitting the post in the final stageg of the grand final in the late 50's), and having the Port (50's) and Sturt (60's) juggernauts to contend with?
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Re: 1960's SANFL

Postby smithy » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:31 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
spell_check wrote:Still, 1003 career scoring shots (or avg. 3.08) for a player who was mainly a centre line player is rather eye catching.


I'm not sure about that. I think Head played a lot of footy across half forward, and as a rover resting in the pocket. Maybe those who watched West Torrens more than I did can set us straight.

I'd say that Halbert would have a lot more scoring shots for a centre line player than that.
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Re: 1960's SANFL

Postby GWW » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:32 pm

How much did Halbert play CHF compared to in the Centre?
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Re: 1960's SANFL

Postby redandblack » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:40 pm

GWW wrote:Without doing too much research on the matter, is it fair to say West had some very good sides in the 1950's and 1960's and in hindsight they didn't get the reward they might have hoped for. I just did a quick search and note the only premiership they won in those 2 decades was 1961. They had some very good players..was it a combination of a little bit of bad luck (eg. hitting the post in the final stageg of the grand final in the late 50's), and having the Port (50's) and Sturt (60's) juggernauts to contend with?


Yes. Their problem was that Port were extremely hard to beat at the time. West lost GF's to them 3 times I think by less than a goal and lost the 1962 GF by 3 points to Port as well.

Port had very good talls and West had very good smalls.
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Re: 1960's SANFL

Postby smithy » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:43 pm

redandblack wrote:It's interesting just how many of that West side can often still be seen at the club now.

John Ryan, Ken Eustice, Jimmy Wright, Peter Phipps, etc.

Jeff Bray was another until he passed away.

One of my prized possessions is a recent photo with Neil Kerley, Ken Eustice and Brian Faehse.


redandblack - the past players shed is just brilliant at Richmond and anyone who hasn't been there, needs to experience it.
It gives you a sense of what foty clubs were like in the 50's and 60's.
I spoke to a player from a grand final side in the 50's, bought some raffle tickets from him, had some pies and pasties with him whilst sharing a couple of long neck beers.
I was there with the brother of a 1991 GF player, Hoggy.
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Re: 1960's SANFL

Postby GWW » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:48 am

redandblack wrote:Most of those West players formed the backbone of the 1961 side.

Frank Hogan was a really neat rover with a very accurate short pass (can't remember if it was a stab pass or not?)

Paul Garnett was a half-forward flanker, not a big possession winner, but he had a wonderful kick and was very dangerous within his range of goals.

Alan "Trigger" Tregenza played full-back. A reliable defender, a bit undersized IIRC, but very few kicked man on him.

In those days, West were known to have a 'mosquito fleet' and their clashes with Port in the late 50's were the major clashes of hat time.


I'm sure you and a lot of other posters will be very familiar with this photo redandblack but I thought it was worth posting. Frank Hogan was certainly very small, looks like a schoolboy :)

http://www.westadelaidefc.com.au/HISTOR ... miers.aspx

The G Sara who is listed as being absent, I believe he used to appear in some St Johns tv ads a few years ago. I believe he also finished up playing for Meningie in the RMFL in the mid/late 60's with Lester Ross Snr.
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Re: 1960's SANFL

Postby mal » Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:02 am

Another person not in the photo was an M CAPPO
Is this Morry Cappo of Cappo Seafoods ?
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Re: 1960's SANFL

Postby robranisgod » Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:52 am

mal wrote:Another person not in the photo was an M CAPPO
Is this Morry Cappo of Cappo Seafoods ?

Certainly is. Like so many West players of the time he was from the West End of the city of Adelaide. I once heard Doug Thomas say that 10 of the West 1961 premiership side were actually from the West End.
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Re: 1960's SANFL

Postby robranisgod » Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:57 am

GWW wrote:Talking of Fos, I believe he was related to Lindsay Head? Cousins I think? Anyone know any further details re the family connection?

They certainly were related. I believe that Lindsay's father and Fos were cousins but I am not certain of that. When Lindsay was about to make his debut for Torrens Fos visited Lindsay's father to tell him that Lindsay would be OK.
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Re: 1960's SANFL

Postby redandblack » Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:57 am

Geoff Sara was a very good wingman in the years after this team.

Yes, that photo is very familiar. I've been lucky enough to meet most of them recently at the 50 year celebration several weeks ago.
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Re: 1960's SANFL

Postby mal » Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:37 am

NW V NA ROUND 3 1960
NORWOOD OVAL

NW 1-4...7-7...7-10...11-11
NA 2-5...3-10..5-13...9-18
BEST PLAYERS
NW : wedding, bunton,mcmahon,wells,weisner,stephens,kneebone
NA : gilbourne,barbary,d linndner,johnston, t lindner,hughes, hammond
MAIN GOALSCORERS
NW : stephens 4,johnson 3, wells 2
NA : pascoe 3 , hughes 2,johnston,2 CODD1


REVIEW BY VIC JOHNSON [edited] headline REDLEGS TOOK BITTER GAME
The game was marred by terrific scrambling and some bad manhandling
Perhaps NA was unlucky to lose
With 10 minutes of play left NA led by 13 minutes
It was a hard game from the 1st bounce to the final siren, weight and elbows freely used
This game was certainly not for the chickenhearted in fact it was extremely dangerous at times
I think some will be carrying bruises for a while
Weddings strong ruck work
Courageous roving by Bunton after a quiet 1st qtr when Thomas was the best rover afield
Thomas jarred an ankle in the 2nd half,while Bunton went right on with the game
Then too NA struck a bad patch of inaccuracy in the 2nd term
Codd at full forward got the ball really well but had little success with his scoring attempts, he finished the day with 1-6
NAs recovery in the 3rd + last terms was undoubtedly due to the shifting of Pascoe from CHB to the FP and Ruck, and Barbarys gallant 2nd half at CW
Last qtr : Barbarys wing became an open gate, and in front of him Hughes was in everything
From a long way off Pascoe goaled to give NA the lead for the 1st time since the 1st qtr
Following on, Pascoe got another, his 3rd and NA could scent victory
But NW rallied and in a hectic finish, managed to get away with the game with 3 goals from Johnson [2] and Stephens.These were kicked in the last 7 minutes of play
I make Wedding my first choice for NW
Bunton must be commended
Mcmahon gave fine service in ruck throughout
Stephens did a good job at FF
Weisner defended well, as did Kneebone
Wells and Lill were dangerous at HF
Barbary is my 1st choice for NA. He did a big hand in their fine recovery and nearly won the game for them
Gilbourne was his usual self in defence, which speaks for itself
Both Lindner brothers were always at it.Don at centre and Trevor following or resting in defence
Hughes , not always accurate with his kicking, nevertheless played well, as did Hammond even though he was opposed to Stephens
Umpire M J Smith was in charge of this game

This must have been a hard tight contest
This game has some similarities to the Grand Final between these 2 teams


ONE EYED SUPPORTER [edited]
NW
Boy we only just got there. But if we had been licked,you could have called us the unluckiest team in the league
Hows that bloke they call the umpire. Fair dinkum he nearly cost us the game
Some of his decisions were putrid
Now dig me on this one, we have a mighty team of stars there, but what about big Bill Wedding. He shone brighter than the Southern Cross
Must admit NA haven't a bad mob of guys. They surprised me today. Matter of fact, some of them even got more than 1 kick for the whole of the match. And that from the has been NA mob is brilliant

NA [edited]
Boy we were robbed today!
We had the game wrapped up and in our keeping
But what happened ?
That little man in white lets us down. Fair dinkum it was worse than highway robbery
In the last qtr Johnson gets a free for NW. And he kicks a goal and wins the match
But a second b4 Gambling was tagged around the neck and nothing happens. 2 seconds later he gets grabbed and the mark goes to Johnson for holding the ball
And we have Killigrew louts out at NW reckoning they beat us fair dinkum
Fair dinkum my foot, that mob out NW way would'nt know what day it was. And that goes for the umpire too
The records will show we were beaten by NW. But brother anyone who went out to the game today knows we really were over them .


Hahaha gotta love this One eyed supporter column, reads more like some of our flairy posters on safooty


QUESTIONS
Codd [NA]
Played at full forward and Vic Johnson has listed him as as scoring 1-6
The Sunday MAiL has him scoring 2-5
In any case after 3 rounds he had scored 7-16 for the season[Kernahan had 13-4 and was leading from Johns 11-9]
Whats the gos on Codd ?

Weisner[NW] listed as playing well in defence
Played 62 games from 1957-1964
What sort of a player was he ?
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Re: 1960's SANFL

Postby nickname » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:23 am

redandblack wrote:Geoff Sara was a very good wingman in the years after this team.



Also played tennis at a very high level I think.
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Re: 1960's SANFL

Postby nickname » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:29 am

In fact a quick Google search shows Sara made it to the 2nd round of the Australian Open in 1967.
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Re: 1960's SANFL

Postby robranisgod » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:39 am

mal wrote:QUESTIONS
Codd [NA]
Played at full forward and Vic Johnson has listed him as as scoring 1-6
The Sunday MAiL has him scoring 2-5
In any case after 3 rounds he had scored 7-16 for the season[Kernahan had 13-4 and was leading from Johns 11-9]
Whats the gos on Codd ?

Weisner[NW] listed as playing well in defence
Played 62 games from 1957-1964
What sort of a player was he ?

Mick Codd played a couple of seasons for North. I thought that he was more a defender. He polled a best on the ground during the 1960 minor round but he missed out on the Premiership side. I have an idea he played in the premiers match against Melbourne the next week. I remember North playing Port at Alberton in 1961 and all the talk was about Codd standing Salmon and the corny jokes flying around about them being two fish out of water and the like.

Codd is better known as a bureaucrat. He was First Secretary of the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet in the Hawke era and was later the Chancellor of the University of Wolloongong. Paul Keating had some interesting things to say about him.
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Re: 1960's SANFL

Postby Leaping Lindner » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:11 pm

robranisgod wrote:
mal wrote:QUESTIONS
Codd [NA]
Played at full forward and Vic Johnson has listed him as as scoring 1-6
The Sunday MAiL has him scoring 2-5
In any case after 3 rounds he had scored 7-16 for the season[Kernahan had 13-4 and was leading from Johns 11-9]
Whats the gos on Codd ?

Weisner[NW] listed as playing well in defence
Played 62 games from 1957-1964
What sort of a player was he ?

Mick Codd played a couple of seasons for North. I thought that he was more a defender. He polled a best on the ground during the 1960 minor round but he missed out on the Premiership side. I have an idea he played in the premiers match against Melbourne the next week. I remember North playing Port at Alberton in 1961 and all the talk was about Codd standing Salmon and the corny jokes flying around about them being two fish out of water and the like.

Codd is better known as a bureaucrat. He was First Secretary of the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet in the Hawke era and was later the Chancellor of the University of Wolloongong. Paul Keating had some interesting things to say about him.


He was on the bench in the Melbourne game.
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Re: 1960's SANFL

Postby westcoastpanther » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:39 pm

Cappo has reminded me of 'Cappo Bros Boy' we used to refer to in some West supporter photos back in the early days of Footysa.... :lol:

Oh, and hurry up and get to 64 can ya's!! ;)
Hi, My name is Ron 'Bluey' Dunn. Did you know I played in the 61 & 62 Tasman Premiership sides....
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Re: 1960's SANFL

Postby mal » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:32 pm

westcoastpanther wrote:Cappo has reminded me of 'Cappo Bros Boy' we used to refer to in some West supporter photos back in the early days of Footysa.... :lol:

Oh, and hurry up and get to 64 can ya's!! ;)



Dunno if this helps
But the 1960 NW V NA game that I posted , the journalist was Vic Johnson
He played for PA
He is a hall of fame recipient and his claim to fame was being the coach that took SA from bottom to top in 1935
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Re: 1960's SANFL

Postby baggy8 » Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:23 pm

robranisgod wrote:They certainly were related. I believe that Lindsay's father and Fos were cousins but I am not certain of that. When Lindsay was about to make his debut for Torrens Fos visited Lindsay's father to tell him that Lindsay would be OK.


You're right there rig. Both Fos and Lindsay's father, Tom, were from Quorn. Tom came down to Adelaide from there in the late 20s to play for Torrens.
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