1960's SANFL

[robranisgod]

1962 PLAYERS WHO PLAYED FOR NA

19 GILBOURNE D
19 WHITFORD
18 BARBARY
18 BUBNER
18 FAGGOTTER
18 HAMMOND
18 LINDNER T
18 PASCOE
18 THOMAS
17 GAMBLING
17 HEWETT
17 POTTS
16 TRENORDAN
15 LINDNER D
12 COAD
12 KENT
12 POWER
10 BARTROFF
9 CARROLL
9 PORTER
8 BLOCH
7 HUGHES
7 JONSTON
7 MONTGOMERY
7 SIMMONS
5 GILBOURNE R
5 HALL
4 CRAIG
4 SHEPPARD
4 BACKMAN
3 DIXON
3 HAMBLY
3 KNUCKEY
2 CHEEK
3 WHITE
2 FOOTE
2 MULLINS
1 GUTSCHE
1 JONES
1 PAULL

LEADING GOALKICKERS
38 THOMAS
31 PASCOE
23 WHITFORD
17 FAGGOTTER

100+ GAME PLAYERS
101 SHEPPARD
119 D LINDNER
139 HEWETT
195 D GILBOURNE

I will leave this to a couple of the North barrackers to supply a yarn or 2

QUESTION
D KNUCKEY played 2 games for a total of 12 at the end of 1961
Is he related to the great SA man Charles Knuckey ?

I don't know if Don Knuckey was related to the great Charles Knuckey but Don Knuckey was a very good footballer whose career was cut short by a serious knee injury. Don Knucukey was a dashing back pocket player. He was pacy and fitted the North long kicking pattern. He played in the 1963 Grand Final and was one of the four North players in the 1965 Mobil series of footy cards. I think he hurt his knee in that year and he disappeared from the scene. The last I knew he was living in South Africa. He visited the club in the mid 90s with his good friend Barrie Barbary.

I also note that Geoff Paull played a game in 1961, after playing a couple of games in 1960. Geoff was a fringe wingman rover at this time and it was only when Don Knuckey got injured that Geoff took over in the back pocket where he remained until he retired after the 1972 Champions of Australia match, having played in two premierships. The question that will never be answered is whether Geoff Paull would have had such an illustrious career if Don Knuckey hadn't been injured?

[GWW]

SA PLAYERS USED IN 1961

19 PARKINSON
19 AMPARRALAMTNA
19 HILDER
19 KANTILLA
18 PARHAM
18 PLOENGES
18 DURBRIDGE
17 CHIGWIN
16 PANIZZA
16 CHRISTIE
16 OBRIEN
15 ROENFELDT R
15 KIMBER
14 DAY
13 JOHNSTON
13 LEWIS
12 JACKSON
11 WILSON
11 DOYLE
11 BACKMAN
10 KUPSCH
9 HARRIS
7 SILVA
7 COLEMAN
7 STEWART
4 WILLIAMS
3 POLDEN
3 ROENFELDT T
3 FRASER
2 BAKER
2 JUDD
2 BAILHACHE
2 BURT
2 PEARCE
2 PRYOR
1 NEALE
1 NEAVE

*Ploenges - related to Warren who played for South in the 80s/90s?
*Christie - "Nipper" Christie, the radio commentator? Any relation to Gary who played at South and Glenelg?
*Kupsch - perhaps a relation of David, ex North Adelaide player
*Roenfeldt - whenever I see the ex South Adelaide player's name, I wonder whether he was relarted to the ex channel 9 televison personality from the 1980's.
*Neave - related to ex Nowood and Eagles player Simon?

[robranisgod]

SA PLAYERS USED IN 1961

19 PARKINSON
19 AMPARRALAMTNA
19 HILDER
19 KANTILLA
18 PARHAM
18 PLOENGES
18 DURBRIDGE
17 CHIGWIN
16 PANIZZA
16 CHRISTIE
16 OBRIEN
15 ROENFELDT R
15 KIMBER
14 DAY
13 JOHNSTON
13 LEWIS
12 JACKSON
11 WILSON
11 DOYLE
11 BACKMAN
10 KUPSCH
9 HARRIS
7 SILVA
7 COLEMAN
7 STEWART
4 WILLIAMS
3 POLDEN
3 ROENFELDT T
3 FRASER
2 BAKER
2 JUDD
2 BAILHACHE
2 BURT
2 PEARCE
2 PRYOR
1 NEALE
1 NEAVE

*Ploenges - related to Warren who played for South in the 80s/90s?
*Christie - "Nipper" Christie, the radio commentator? Any relation to Gary who played at South and Glenelg?
*Kupsch - perhaps a relation of David, ex North Adelaide player
*Roenfeldt - whenever I see the ex South Adelaide player's name, I wonder whether he was relarted to the ex channel 9 televison personality from the 1980's.
*Neave - related to ex Nowood and Eagles player Simon?

Brian Ploenges, premiership wingman is Warren Ploenges father.
Graham Chrisite, premiership ruck rover and former South captain was Gary Christie's father. As far as I know he was no relation to David "Nipper" Christie of Woodville and the media. I think Nipper christie was a cousin of the Obst family.
Can't help with the rest.

[GWW]

Thanks RIG

[mal]

WEST ADELAIDE PLAYERS USED IN 1961
21 BENTON
21 REU
21 SHRUBSOLE
21 TREGENZA
21 RYAN
20 EUSTICE
20 HOGAN
20 KERLEY
19 BARKER
19 BRAY
18 ODRISCOLL
17 BENNETTS
17 DE BROUGHE
17 LOVEGROVE
17 PHIPPS
17 ROACH
17 THOMAS
16 WRIGHT
15 GARNETT
14 COSTELLO
12 SARA
9 WALLACE
7 JOHNSON
7 MCLEOD
5 CAMPBELL
4 BROOKS
2 PURSER
2 GATES
2 ROSSETTO
1 SIMS
1 CAPPO

LEADING GOALKICKERS
46 HOGAN
33 GARNETT
33 WRIGHT
26 PHIPPS
26 THOMAS

PLAYERS WITH 100+ GAMES B4 1962
109 KERLEY
121 COSTELLO
135 THOMAS
129 LOVEGROVE
161 WRIGHT

Some well known players in this lot, they won the flag in 61, deserved one after a couple of near misses in the 50s
M CAPPO is the seafood king, they still have the business these days, and might still be advertising on the old Richmond Oval scoreboard

QUESTIONS
T BARKER what was his first name ?
A TREGENZA, is he related to the Triggers that played for PA + GL ?

[mal]

WEST TORRENS GAMES PLAYED 1961
21 GIBSON
21 PAYZE
20 HEAD L
21 PILL
20 LANDERS
19 BILLS J
19 LIVESEY
19 TOWNSEND
19 YOUNG
18 KINGSTON
18 RUSSELL
17 CAVUOTO
16 MitchELL
12 MARCHIORO
12 MORRELL
12 COLEMAN
12 ROBERTSON
10 CASTLES
10 SHIRLEY
10 VAUX
8 COWLING
8 HINE
8 SEARLE
7 BLIGHT
7 HANEL
6 SLAVEN
5 LUCAS
4 BUTLER
4 COLEMAN
3 HANRAHAN
3 HAWKE ....only played 3 games, got his clearance very late in the season
2 KLAFFER
2 TREAGUS
1 EDWARDS
1 ELFENBEIN
1 FOOTE
1 GOBSON
1 ISSAC
1 TUCKER
??? SHEARMAN

LEADING GOALSCORERS
79 KINGSTON [leading SANFL goalkicker in 1961]
27 L HEAD
26 SHEARMAN [Please note was not in the above listings ]
22 YOUNG

PLAYERS WHO PLAYED 100+ GAMES B4 1962
101 LIVESEY
167 HEAD

QUESTIONS
R PAYZE is he related to Andrew the Crows/Eagles player ?
IS J BILLS is he related to Freddy and Brenton Bills ?
G BLIGHT is he related to MALcolm Blight ?
P ELFENBEIN , I played with a couple of lads named D + J ELFENBEIN in cricket [both worked for Australia Post] its a longshot, anyone know if this guy is related to them ?

[Adelaide Hawk]

IS J BILLS is he related to Freddy and Brenton Bills ?

J Bills is Fred Bills. His name is John Frederick Bills.

[mal]

IS J BILLS is he related to Freddy and Brenton Bills ?

J Bills is Fred Bills. His name is John Frederick Bills.

FREDDY BILLS
Played 46 games by 1962
Has been described as a cruiser ruckman at that stage

1959 TRIALS
Came under notice 1 day for this :
Played the first half of a morning colts trial
Started well in a senior colts trial 2 hours later
Was then included in the league trial in the afternoon
Freddy played 7 league games in his debut 1959 season
And what a career he had playing 313 games from 1959-1975 + winning 4 BF awards at the club

[GWW]

There was also a Livesey (Steven I think) and Foote (David?) playing more recently, would they be related to their namesakes in the 60s? Was there also a Pill playing in the 80s as well?

[mal]

There was also a Livesey (Steven I think) and Foote (David?) playing more recently, would they be related to their namesakes in the 60s? Was there also a Pill playing in the 80s as well?

IF
It helps
D LIVESEY played 101 games at this stage
J FOOTE 1 game 1961, and is the only game in his career at this stage

[GWW]

mal, do you also have a list of WT Reserves players for any time in the early 60s? if so is there anyone by name of Charles Wheaton listed? He was my dad's cousin.

[mal]

GWW
No details except for the League players that played from most of these years 1961-1969 at my disposal
I can only recall mostly from 1968 onwards, b4 that Im relying on my accumulation of 1960s budgets, year books , newspapers, and books

[GWW]

No worries

[Adelaide Hawk]

mal, do you also have a list of WT Reserves players for any time in the early 60s? if so is there anyone by name of Charles Wheaton listed? He was my dad's cousin.

That's not Gavin Wheaton's dad is it?

[Adelaide Hawk]

1961 NFC Carnival in Brisbane
Winner: Western Australia – 2 wins, 1 loss, 143.70%
Second: Victoria – 2 wins, 1 loss, 138.87%
Third: South Australia – 2 wins, 1 loss, 86.20%
Fourth: Tasmania – 0 wins, 3 losses, 58.76%

Coaches/Captains
WA: Jack Sheedy / Haydn Bunton Jr
Vic: Len Smith / Ron Barassi
SA: Foster Williams / Neil Kerley
Tas: Jack Metherell / Darrel Baldock

Tassie Medal: Brian Dixon (Victoria)

Leading Goalkicker: Allen Aylett (Victoria) – 18 goals

Matches:
WA 24-33 (177) Gerovich 5 goals, Clarke 4
Tas 10-6 (66) Withers 3

VFL 21-22 (148) Aylett 8, Peck 3, Whitten 3, Mitchell 3
SA 13-12 (90) Kingston 5

VFL 20-30 (150) Aylett 5, Whitten 4
Tas 12-17 (89) Baldock 5

SA 16-13 (109) Lindner 4, Kingston 4
WA 15-17 (107) Mumme 5, Clarke 3

SA 15-17 (107) Potter 5, Kingston 4
Tas 14-16 (100) Baldock 5, Morcom 4

WA 15-14 (104) Bunton 4
VFL 14-11 (95) Aylett 5, Mitchell 3


All Australian Team:
WA: Jack K Clarke, Graham Farmer, Ray Gabelich, Ray Sorrell, John Todd
Vic: Allen Aylett, Ron Barassi, Brian Dixon, John Schultz, Ted Whitten
SA: John Abley, John Halbert, Neil Kerley, Geoff Kingston, Don Lindner, Don Roach, Bob Shearman, Bill Wedding
Tas: Darrel Baldock, Bob Withers

[mal]

3 Sides WA/VI/SA finished on 3 wins each
And the carnival is over
Might a better format have been to have a top 2 in a play off ?
This was the 15th Carnival played since 1908
VI 13
SA 1
WA 1
This was the first time WA won the title
SA won the 2nd Carnival played in 1911

Article on the carnival
SA GAME IMPROVING
It seems certain, however, that SA football is improving
It was no fluke that SA had 8 players in the All Australian team
VI coach Len Smith went out of his way to say that SA's excellent chances of beating VI at 3/4 time in their Carnival match were blown away by an adverse wind change
And SA's 2 point defeat of the Carnival winner WA prompted WA coach Jack Sheedy to say, some months later, that SA was the 'best side' in the Championships


A rather interesting call by Len Smith about the wind change
VI won by 58 points [but was very close at 3/4 time]

FOOTNOTE
1960 Interstate game in Adelaide
SA 14-15
VI 3-12
This was the biggest win SA had over VI in all state games at the time [69 points]


The 1961 Brisbane Carnival game was the 100th game between SA V VI
VI 72
SA 26
DRAWS 2
These matches from 1879 -1961

[GWW]

mal, do you also have a list of WT Reserves players for any time in the early 60s? if so is there anyone by name of Charles Wheaton listed? He was my dad's cousin.

That's not Gavin Wheaton's dad is it?

I don't think it would be AH, although I'm not certain. I don't really know that part of the family that well, Charles unfortunately died in an accident in his milk truck in the early 70's, a couple of years before I was born.

He (Charles, known as "Chas") was a star country footballer, and I heard that he tried out with West Torrens, but I believe he only played Reserves, although again, I'm not actually sure how many (Reserves) games he played.

[redandblack]

T Barker is Trevor Barker.

A Tregenza is Alan (Allan?).

[robranisgod]

T Barker is Trevor Barker.

A Tregenza is Alan (Allan?).

Alan (allan?) Tregenza was a fine full back, Trevor Barker was also a defender

[robranisgod]

There was also a Livesey (Steven I think) and Foote (David?) playing more recently, would they be related to their namesakes in the 60s? Was there also a Pill playing in the 80s as well?

IF
It helps
D LIVESEY played 101 games at this stage
J FOOTE 1 game 1961, and is the only game in his career at this stage

Brian Livesey was Steven Livesey's father. Brian Livesey (nicknamed Bronco) was another outstanding wingman who would have been a state team regular in another era. He may have had a state game or two.

David Foote's father is John Foote but I don't know if he is the same J Foote as named in your list.