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Re: SANFL 1945-1990

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:24 pm
by dedja
80m, but it bounced through ... grandstand between wing and HF, southern end

Re: SANFL 1945-1990

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:41 pm
by mal
mal wrote:
dedja wrote:Hey Spermy, I forgot Paul Weston FFS, even though he was on a walking stick by then.

Name one decent player you gave us you pricks.


Richard Kelly



Nathan Irvin
Sudjai Cook

Kris Massie as a coach !

Did a Fosdike play for both clubs as well ?

Re: SANFL 1945-1990

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:48 pm
by JK
mal wrote:
mal wrote:
dedja wrote:Hey Spermy, I forgot Paul Weston FFS, even though he was on a walking stick by then.

Name one decent player you gave us you pricks.


Richard Kelly



Nathan Irvin
Sudjai Cook

Kris Massie as a coach !

Did a Fosdike go from NW to GL as well ?


Richard Kelly was nothing more than a consistently OK player. Irvin went to Sturt I think. There was a young Fosdike last decade, but I think he chose zone over Connection to Norwood so didn't really lose him.

Re: SANFL 1945-1990

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:50 pm
by dedja
2 captains and a power forward, and we get SFA in return ... #-o

Re: SANFL 1945-1990

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:17 pm
by robranisgod
dedja wrote:Also, there was the usual 6 day break between the prelim and the GF, which would have made it nearly impossible for Norwood to be competitive.

Now before everyone starts crapping on about Norwood winning from 5th in 1984, they had a 7 day break between the prelim and GF that year, which wasn't the norm at the time.


There was a 7 day break in 1981 between the preliminary and Grand Final. The 1981 preliminary was played the same day as the VFL Grand Final as JK has alluded to.

1982 was the first year of the 6 day break. It was common place other than in 1984 and 1986 when there was the 7 day break and both times the preliminary final team won. In 1990 there was an 8 day break and again the Preliminary final winner, Port, went on to win the flag.

The 7 day break became the norm when the Grand Final changed to always being on the Sunday.

Re: SANFL 1945-1990

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:22 pm
by dedja
OK, I was half right ... it was 33 years ago though! :lol:

Thanks for clarifying. :-BD

Re: SANFL 1945-1990

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:40 pm
by mal
1989 GRAND FINAL


PA 5-5...9-7...11-11...15-18 [108]
NA 0-2...0-3.....1-6.........1-8 [14]

Was this a final that PA had 3 uses of the breeze ?

Re: SANFL 1945-1990

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:52 pm
by Spargo
mal wrote:1989 GRAND FINAL


PA 5-5...9-7...11-11...15-18 [108]
NA 0-2...0-3.....1-6.........1-8 [14]

Was this a final that PA had 3 uses of the breeze ?

Not sure about '89, but they definitely did in 1990.

Re: SANFL 1945-1990

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:00 pm
by robranisgod
Spargo wrote:
mal wrote:1989 GRAND FINAL


PA 5-5...9-7...11-11...15-18 [108]
NA 0-2...0-3.....1-6.........1-8 [14]

Was this a final that PA had 3 uses of the breeze ?

Not sure about '89, but they definitely did in 1990.

Yep, Port certainly had three uses of the gale in 1989, but it wouldn't have mattered. Their defence was awesome. People probably don't remember that they did almost the same job against Norwood in the 1988 Second Semi Final when Norwood scored 2 goals 5 behinds for the match. That game the wind didn't change and Norwood's two goals came within a couple of minutes from their Centre Half Back, Rodney Maynard.

Re: SANFL 1945-1990

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:11 pm
by robranisgod
robranisgod wrote:
Spargo wrote:
mal wrote:1989 GRAND FINAL


PA 5-5...9-7...11-11...15-18 [108]
NA 0-2...0-3.....1-6.........1-8 [14]

Was this a final that PA had 3 uses of the breeze ?

Not sure about '89, but they definitely did in 1990.

Yep, Port certainly had three uses of the gale in 1989, but it wouldn't have mattered. Their defence was awesome. People probably don't remember that they did almost the same job against Norwood in the 1988 Second Semi Final when Norwood scored 2 goals 5 behinds for the match. That game the wind didn't change and Norwood's two goals came within a couple of minutes from their Centre Half Back, Rodney Maynard.


Port Adelaide 3.9... 5.14... 9.15... 10.17 (77)
Norwood ....... 0.0... 0.1..... 1.1..... 2.5 (17)

Re: SANFL 1945-1990

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:15 am
by JK
Yep, sadly remember that 88' 2nd Semi. Port had an outstanding team, whereas ours was very hot and cold and it didn't help that we lost our regular CHB in Craig Kelly via a terribly undisciplined cheap shot on Robert Handley the week before. The game was played in beautiful conditions, but that Port defence just seemed impassable in 88' and 89'. Actually thought the Bays did well in the GF to get as close as they did.

Re: SANFL 1945-1990

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:22 am
by robranisgod
JK wrote:Yep, sadly remember that 88' 2nd Semi. Port had an outstanding team, whereas ours was very hot and cold and it didn't help that we lost our regular CHB in Craig Kelly via a terribly undisciplined cheap shot on Robert Handley the week before. The game was played in beautiful conditions, but that Port defence just seemed impassable in 88' and 89'. Actually thought the Bays did well in the GF to get as close as they did.

The Port Half Back line in 1988 of Abernethy, Greg Phillips and Martin Leslie is the best SANFL half back line that I have ever seen in my 50 odd years of watching the SANFL. It was impassable and at the same time attacking.
I would have loved to see the Port defence come up against the West forward line of 1983 (the best attack that I have ever seen).
Remember in 1990 Port had a number of injuries and still won the flag.

Re: SANFL 1945-1990

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:30 am
by JK
robranisgod wrote:
JK wrote:Yep, sadly remember that 88' 2nd Semi. Port had an outstanding team, whereas ours was very hot and cold and it didn't help that we lost our regular CHB in Craig Kelly via a terribly undisciplined cheap shot on Robert Handley the week before. The game was played in beautiful conditions, but that Port defence just seemed impassable in 88' and 89'. Actually thought the Bays did well in the GF to get as close as they did.

The Port Half Back line in 1988 of Abernethy, Greg Phillips and Martin Leslie is the best SANFL half back line that I have ever seen in my 50 odd years of watching the SANFL. It was impassable and at the same time attacking.
I would have loved to see the Port defence come up against the West forward line of 1983 (the best attack that I have ever seen).
Remember in 1990 Port had a number of injuries and still won the flag.

Yep Port had some sensational teams back then .. Northeast, Delaney and Fiacchi on the last line went alright too. Gotta admit, they threw a pretty decent after party too!!

Re: SANFL 1945-1990

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:37 am
by GWW
Yep, it was an awesome half back line in the late 80's - Northeast was a bit of a downgrade on Leslie but was still a decent player. Add in Delaney (pre Fitzroy), Fiacchi, Rizonico, Foster etc etc, and our backline was the cornerstone of the side. Add in Hodges, the Smiths, Tregenza, Johnston, Hynes etc, and we had more than enough to cover sides who were supposedly "better on paper".

It would have been interesting if the Crows didnt come in in 1991, as to how things would have been throughout the early to mid 90s. All hypothetical obviously and the floodgates from the SANFL to AFL clubs would have still happened, but perhaps not quite to the same extent.

Re: SANFL 1945-1990

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:51 am
by JK
Add Wanganeen, Obst, Stephen Williams, Mark Williams at different times too. There was a heap of star quality in the state back then, but a few Port players seemed to get through unobtrusively by comparison to many individuals from other clubs. Stephen Williams I thought was always a classic example, Andrew Obst the same. Both just genuine champions that didn't seem to receive the fanfare of others.

Re: SANFL 1945-1990

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:06 am
by robranisgod
GWW wrote:Yep, it was an awesome half back line in the late 80's - Northeast was a bit of a downgrade on Leslie but was still a decent player. Add in Delaney (pre Fitzroy), Fiacchi, Rizonico, Foster etc etc, and our backline was the cornerstone of the side. Add in Hodges, the Smiths, Tregenza, Johnston, Hynes etc, and we had more than enough to cover sides who were supposedly "better on paper".

It would have been interesting if the Crows didnt come in in 1991, as to how things would have been throughout the early to mid 90s. All hypothetical obviously and the floodgates from the SANFL to AFL clubs would have still happened, but perhaps not quite to the same extent.

Ginever and David Brown were pretty good midfielders as well.

Northeast certainly was decent player. He must have played in 7 flags.

When you think that players of the ilk of Borlase and Tylor couldn't make those Grand Final sides it is little wonder the other good sides of the era, Glenelg, North and Norwood couldn't match it with Port.

I know that it is outside the range of this topic but another discussion point would be what happened to Port in 1991. All teams lost players to the AFL, but Port weren't decimated like Norwood or Glenelg and yet as I have mentioned before North were favourite from before a ball was bounced until the final siren on Grand Final day. Given Port's dominance of the previous three years and their 1992 dominance, Port's effort in 1991 was so out of character.

Re: SANFL 1945-1990

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:19 am
by mal
1980
The PA of this season is considered to be one of the best teams of all time
This was the Grand Final line up in the 1980 G/F Budget

1 CUNNINGHAM
2 CAHILL D
3 CLIFFORD
4 ECKERMANN
5 EVANS
6 PORPLYCIA
7 EBERT
8 NATT
9 FALETIC
10 KINNEAR
11 ABERNETHY
14 BOYD
15 AGUIS
16 GRAINGER
19 HAMILL
21 WILLIAMS M
22 PHILLIPS
23 GILES
24 HANNAN
26 HOFNER
29 DOLAN
30 BRADMORE
31 SORRELL

About 8 of them were absolute stars


I have deliberately made an error with one these players jumper numbers
Just add 2 more to it for the right number
Who was it ?

Re: SANFL 1945-1990

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:26 am
by dedja
He's spelt wrong as well

Re: SANFL 1945-1990

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:43 am
by DOC
mal wrote:1980
The PA of this season is considered to be one of the best teams of all time
This was the Grand Final line up in the 1980 G/F Budget

1 CUNNINGHAM
2 CAHILL D
3 CLIFFORD
4 ECKERMANN
5 EVANS
6 PORPLYCIA
7 EBERT
8 NATT
9 FALETIC
10 KINNEAR
11 ABERNETHY
14 BOYD
15 AGUIS
16 GRAINGER
19 HAMILL
21 WILLIAMS M
22 PHILLIPS
23 GILES
24 HANNAN
26 HOFNER
29 DOLAN
30 BRADMORE
31 SORRELL

About 8 of them were absolute stars


I have deliberately made an error with one these players jumper numbers
Just add 2 more to it for the right number
Who was it ?



Abernethy.

Re: SANFL 1945-1990

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:44 am
by DOC
A couple of answers.

Alby Menzel is alive and well, still a grounsman at a high school.

Olaf Bode is the father of Jace.