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How many guernsey variations has each club had?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:00 am
by Squawk
Does anyone have a record of how many different guernseys that each of the 9 1/2 current clubs have used in their history? I'm thinking colour combinations, home and away strips, subtle variations from era to era (or major ones as well), etc.

(No jokes about materials used either, re Norwood's flirt with the skin guernseys under Neil Craig!) :lol:

Re: How many guernsey variations has each club had?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:46 am
by brod
Can say that there have been 4 State of Origin jumpers worn by South Australia from 1979 - (footyjumpers.com)

Re: How many guernsey variations has each club had?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:19 am
by Adelaide Hawk
Are you talking home strips, or alternate strips?

Norwood have always worn the navy blue and red socks. Not sure when the red trim came in, but that has been Norwood's jumper since 1878, apart from the Killigrew years when they wore Melbourne style jumpers with the red "V".

I have information on the other clubs that I took from a book back in the 1960s, but that will have to wait until I get home from work this evening.

Re: How many guernsey variations has each club had?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:11 am
by Adelaide Hawk
Port Adelaide started with blue and white, later changed to magenta and blue, before becoming the Magpies in 1902. The prison bar uniform has endured, the bars have varied in width but the design remianed the same except for one season ((I think 1951) where they wore Collingwood style jumpers. Wore all black socks for a while but have generally been black and white horizontal stripes.

North Adelaide in 1883 had an orange and black design. They went to a red jumper with a white yoke, changing it briefly in the 1930s to white with a red yoke. In 1970, the adopted the now familiar "Big V" jumpers, switching for a wile in the mid 80s - mid 90s with the red and white candy striped jumper. Socks were red with white tops, now red and white horizontal stipes.

Sturt had always been double Blue but had differnet designs. They once wore a light blue jumper with a dark blue band around the middle. Then they switched to the familiar light blue with dark blue SFC monogram. Socks were navy blue with blue tops, but altered to all dark blue.

Glenelg began in 1921 with red, gold and black, had a yellow guernsey with a black V from 1927 to 1948, then adopted its present design of black with a yellow sash. For a few years in the early 60s they wore a black jumper with a yellow yoke. Against Richmond in the 1973 Australian Championships, Glenelg wore an all yellow jumper with yellow socks.

West Adelaide had red, white, and blue colours when formed in 1887. reduced this to red and white in 1892, and adopted it's present red & black in 1895. An early West design was it;'s current favourite black with a red sash, but in years up to WW2 and in the 1970s, they wore red and black vertical stripes.

West Torrens had blue and gold vertical stripes up to 1941. After the war, they changed to blue with a gold sash, then altered to blue with a large gold eagle on the chest (my favourite). Then in the early 70s went to blue with a smaller eagle on the upper chest, then back to blue and gold vertical stripes. When Kerley took over, they reverted to the blue with gold sash.

South started with blue and white horizontal stripes, the uniform it adopted again from 1956 to 1959. For many years prior to that it had the blue with a white monogram, altering in the early 60s to the familiar blue with white SA in the chest.

Woodville began in 1964 with a gold jumper and green yoke. In 1968 they changed to green & gold vertical stripes, then later back to the gold with green yoke with a gold Warriors emblem.

Central District began with with old Footscray design, very similar to the jumper they have now. In 1968 they went to the blue jumper with red and white Vs, like the old Kingford cigarette packet. Then in the late 70s they reverted to white jumper with red and blue GT stripes, then finally back to the current design.

I can't remember all the different designs of the W-WT Eagles :)

Re: How many guernsey variations has each club had?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:24 am
by Magpiespower
Adelaide Hawk wrote:Port Adelaide started with blue and white, later changed to magenta and blue, before becoming the Magpies in 1902. The prison bar uniform has endured, the bars have varied in width but the design remianed the same except for one season ((I think 1951) where they wore Collingwood style jumpers. Wore all black socks for a while but have generally been black and white horizontal stripes.


There were a few different guernseys in the immediate post-WWII years, including the Collingwood guernsey.

A black body with two thick vertical white stripes on both sides.

A white body with thin vertical black stripes on both sides.

Got the photos at home and will put them up when I get the chance...

Re: How many guernsey variations has each club had?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:29 am
by Ian
Adelaide Hawk wrote:

North Adelaide in 1883 had an orange and black design. They went to a red jumper with a white yoke, changing it briefly in the 1930s to white with a red yoke. In 1970, the adopted the now familiar "Big V" jumpers, switching for a wile in the mid 80s - mid 90s with the red and white candy striped jumper. Socks were red with white tops, now red and white horizontal stipes.

North put the V on their jumper for the first time in 1924, this article is from Barries corner on nafc.com.au, and was submitted by Leaping Lindner

http://www.nafc.com.au/lib/pdf/mf2471.pdf

Early last century North also wore a "hooped" style guernsey that was actually a series of V's from top to bottom rather than the Geelong/Adelaide style hoops.
The Yoke styles that you refer to were actually V's, not yokes, the V was much higher starting up on the shoulders

Re: How many guernsey variations has each club had?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:35 am
by Adelaide Hawk
Ian wrote:Early last century North also wore a "hooped" style guernsey that was actually a series of V's from top to bottom rather than the Geelong/Adelaide style hoops.
The Yoke styles that you refer to were actually V's, not yokes, the V was much higher starting up on the shoulders


I apologise if I used the wrong term, but I always thought a V reaching up to the shoulders is indeed called a "yoke". I've heard jumper designs described in this manner many times in the past.

Re: How many guernsey variations has each club had?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:48 am
by Leaping Lindner
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This is Medindie in 1888 (first year in the league)showing a mish-mash of jumpers. All red and white.

Various other North jerseys over the years.........

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John Earle..............................................Danny O'Brien...........................Percy Lewis.........................Ken Farmer and Harold Hawke
(1893-1907)............................................(1908-1923)..........................(1924-36;39-67)........................................1937-38

Re: How many guernsey variations has each club had?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:10 pm
by Pseudo
Adelaide Hawk wrote:Glenelg began in 1921 with red, gold and black, had a yellow guernsey with a black V from 1927 to 1948, then adopted its present design of black with a yellow sash. For a few years in the early 60s they wore a black jumper with a yellow yoke. Against Richmond in the 1973 Australian Championships, Glenelg wore an all yellow jumper with yellow socks.


Glenelg wore a black jumper with a gold (sic) hoop upon entering league ranks - no more red from this point.

Re: How many guernsey variations has each club had?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:33 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
LL, what about my favourite North jumper, the lace-up with the monogram of a shield (NAFC), just before Mike Patterson introduced the Big V in 1970? Do you have a pic of that one?

Re: How many guernsey variations has each club had?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:54 pm
by Leaping Lindner
North actually introduced the crest in 1966 (the last year before the lace ups)
(Peter Anderson, Kelly Stringer, Rob Geisler)

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This is a rare shot of Patto in lace up (Round 4 vs Norwood). The Big V jumper first appeared in Round 7 of 1970 against West Adelaide.
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Some bloke who could coach a bit, back in his playing days
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Re: How many guernsey variations has each club had?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:05 pm
by Leaping Lindner
Adelaide Hawk wrote:Are you talking home strips, or alternate strips?

Norwood have always worn the navy blue and red socks. Not sure when the red trim came in, but that has been Norwood's jumper since 1878, apart from the Killigrew years when they wore Melbourne style jumpers with the red "V".

I have information on the other clubs that I took from a book back in the 1960s, but that will have to wait until I get home from work this evening.


It's hard to tell exactly here, but I reckon you are on the money as Tom Woodroofe's jumper looks all blue with no red trimming.
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This is Tom Woodroofe and Ken Farmer shaking hands at the start of the Norwood vs North clash at Prospect Oval on May 7th 1938. That was the day Farmer kicked his 1000th goal in League Football.
I've got a feeling the red trim might be a post war thing.

Re: How many guernsey variations has each club had?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:25 pm
by HeartBeatsTrue
Adelaide Hawk wrote:Sturt had always been double Blue but had differnet designs. They once wore a light blue jumper with a dark blue band around the middle. Then they switched to the familiar light blue with dark blue SFC monogram. Socks were navy blue with blue tops, but altered to all dark blue.
I think Sturt started with Dark Blue guernsey with Light Blue sash. Pretty sure thats what they wore in the Norwood Oval/Sturt FC centenary match in 2001 to commemorate that first game in 1901.

Re: How many guernsey variations has each club had?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:28 pm
by HeartBeatsTrue
Leaping Lindner wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:Are you talking home strips, or alternate strips?

Norwood have always worn the navy blue and red socks. Not sure when the red trim came in, but that has been Norwood's jumper since 1878, apart from the Killigrew years when they wore Melbourne style jumpers with the red "V".

I have information on the other clubs that I took from a book back in the 1960s, but that will have to wait until I get home from work this evening.


It's hard to tell exactly here, but I reckon you are on the money as Tom Woodroofe's jumper looks all blue with no red trimming.
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This is Tom Woodroofe and Ken Farmer shaking hands at the start of the Norwood vs North clash at Prospect Oval on May 7th 1938. That was the day Farmer kicked his 1000th goal in League Football.
I've got a feeling the red trim might be a post war thing.

Norwood still today have no red trim on their long sleeve guernseys.

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Thanks to nuems from redlegs forum for this pic.

Re: How many guernsey variations has each club had?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:00 pm
by spell_check
Adelaide Hawk wrote:I can't remember all the different designs of the W-WT Eagles :)


Here they are:

1991-92

The first guernsey comprised of a blue chest, a gold eagle emblem which separated the blue from the green which was below the emblem.

Blue shorts were worn as the home teams' shorts.

1993-97

This guernsey was blue, except for a hoop around the midriff (I think, that's the correct term), which had a green hoop with one small gold hoop above and below that.

Blue shorts were worn as the home teams' shorts.

1998-06

The guernsey which is the current one, is blue with a eagle in the middle of the guernsey, which is gold with a green patch. Below the eagle is gold and green diagonal stripes, which are staggered and the gold stripes are slightly longer than the green stripes. It has been varied slightly in around 2000 to the current look.

Blue shorts as the home teams' shorts.

2003-06

An alternate strip, worn against clubs with blue in them. The same as the 1998- guernsey, but gold instead of blue background.

Blue shorts as the home teams' shorts.

Socks:

Blue, except for the top part which is a green and gold hoop, like the 1993 guernsey hoop.

2007-

Gold Eagle, green above the Eagle, blue below

Alternate Jumper:
Same, execpt the blue stops just after the Eagle, with more gold below

Re: How many guernsey variations has each club had?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:03 pm
by spell_check
Adelaide Hawk wrote:West Adelaide had red, white, and blue colours when formed in 1887. reduced this to red and white in 1892, and adopted it's present red & black in 1895. An early West design was it;'s current favourite black with a red sash, but in years up to WW2 and in the 1970s, they wore red and black vertical stripes.


Then there was also the red guernsey with the black monogram for a short while.

Re: How many guernsey variations has each club had?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:45 pm
by Sojourner
Considering the significant amount of difference in guernseys from original to today and even the adoption of different colours used, it would seem to me that in the modern situation where a "clash" guernsey is called for, a club would do well to go look into their history and use one of their historical guernseys for the clash guernsey. That way the clash issue can be dealt with and at the same time the long standing history of the club from an era long past can be remembered and promoted. 8)

Re: How many guernsey variations has each club had?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:04 am
by McAlmanac
Leaping Lindner wrote:This is a rare shot of Patto in lace up (Round 4 vs Norwood). The Big V jumper first appeared in Round 7 of 1970 against West Adelaide.
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And a rare one of Don Lindner in the Big V.

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Re: How many guernsey variations has each club had?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:42 pm
by Strawb
West have had many different jumpers
in the early 1900 we wore red and black hoops
when they won the 1927 flag they wore a jumper similar to norwood's with all black and red trim
1947 premiership wore a all red jumper with black trim and black wa on chest.
red and black sash in the 50's and 60's
stripes in the 70's and when knuckles came back we got red and black sash.
we have also worn the alterinite strip with new club logo on side and now on front.

Re: How many guernsey variations has each club had?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:28 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
And West Adelaide were the first team to wear red shorts, I think it was in 1973?