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Albert Green. Champion Footballer of 1893.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:25 pm
by Leaping Lindner
This is an article from "The Express and Telegraph" October 7th 1893, which states Norwood's Albert Green is the champion footballer of 1893. How they arrived at the conclusion is anybody's guess, though possibly the opinion of the footballer writers for that particular daily.
What is interesting is it does show that his 1898 Magarey Medal wasn't a "flash in the pan"

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Re: Albert Green. Champion Footballer of 1893.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:02 pm
by Mark_Beswick
He was actually born in NSW Jan 28, 1874

Albert Green like Alexander Malcolm MacKenzie of Port Adelaide are two very important foundation players which we have no Date of death for or even place of death.

If anyone can solve this mystery, they will have succeeded where many have failed for a long period of time - Would love to hear from anyone who has any luck

Re: Albert Green. Champion Footballer of 1893.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:35 am
by am Bays
Interesting article.

OK this is something I've always wondered but have never been aware or able to find the answer it says Green played for th Norwood Cricket Club. What became of it? Did it become Kensington and changed colours? I understand East Torrens came in in teh laste 70s or was that Tea Tree Gully??

Re: Albert Green. Champion Footballer of 1893.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:44 am
by Adelaide Hawk
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:Interesting article.

OK this is something I've always wondered but have never been aware or able to find the answer it says Green played for th Norwood Cricket Club. What became of it? Did it become Kensington and changed colours? I understand East Torrens came in in teh laste 70s or was that Tea Tree Gully??


Not sure if it was a straight name change or if other changes were involved, but ostensibly Norwood became East Torrens. I have a book at home that gives the answer so unless someone else provides the info first, I'll answer this tonight.

East Torrens have been around for a long time. They dominated the early years of District Cricket, so much so they took part of their area and introduced a new club Kensington. Tea Tree Gully were admitted to the SACA in the late 70s, from the Adelaide Turf Cricket Association.

Re: Albert Green. Champion Footballer of 1893.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:17 am
by am Bays
Thanks AH I knew a club was introduced in teh late 70s not sure if it was East Torrens or TTG. I should have worked it out givent hat East orrens colours are Navy and Red

Re: Albert Green. Champion Footballer of 1893.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:44 am
by CK
I'd always been under the impression he was lost in the bush, on a mining expedition, but yes, that was never confirmed with no body found.

Re: Albert Green. Champion Footballer of 1893.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:58 am
by Adelaide Hawk
I'm still trying to uncover the reasons why he didn't play for Norwood after 1898. Mike Coward seems to think it was because he was residentially tied to both the Sturt Football & Cricket Clubs, and whereas he was happy to play cricket for Sturt, he didn't want to play football for them. However, Sturt weren't in the league at that time, so it doesn't make sense.

Re: Albert Green. Champion Footballer of 1893.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:40 pm
by Bluedemon
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:Thanks AH I knew a club was introduced in teh late 70s not sure if it was East Torrens or TTG. I should have worked it out givent hat East orrens colours are Navy and Red


i know that East Torrens used Norwood Oval up until the late 70's before they moved to where they are now.

Re: Albert Green. Champion Footballer of 1893.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:50 pm
by Leaping Lindner
Adelaide Hawk wrote:I'm still trying to uncover the reasons why he didn't play for Norwood after 1898. Mike Coward seems to think it was because he was residentially tied to both the Sturt Football & Cricket Clubs, and whereas he was happy to play cricket for Sturt, he didn't want to play football for them. However, Sturt weren't in the league at that time, so it doesn't make sense.


More likely than not it would have been another club's area (until 1901) - South perhaps??

Re: Albert Green. Champion Footballer of 1893.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:15 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
kookas wrote:
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:Thanks AH I knew a club was introduced in teh late 70s not sure if it was East Torrens or TTG. I should have worked it out givent hat East orrens colours are Navy and Red


i know that East Torrens used Norwood Oval up until the late 70's before they moved to where they are now.


It was the very early 70s when they moved from Norwood Oval. Cricket and football couldn't live together any more so East Torrens went looking for a new home. I was involved in practice the final night at Norwood when Robert Oatey decided to run the footballers on the ground during cricket practice. The nets were at the Beulah Road end where cricketers were slogging balls out onto the oval, and it's a miracle nobody got hurt.

Re: Albert Green. Champion Footballer of 1893.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:56 pm
by therisingblues
Leaping Lindner wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:I'm still trying to uncover the reasons why he didn't play for Norwood after 1898. Mike Coward seems to think it was because he was residentially tied to both the Sturt Football & Cricket Clubs, and whereas he was happy to play cricket for Sturt, he didn't want to play football for them. However, Sturt weren't in the league at that time, so it doesn't make sense.


More likely than not it would have been another club's area (until 1901) - South perhaps??


That would make sense. Also would explain why there is a difference between playing cricket and footy in the same area.

Re: Albert Green. Champion Footballer of 1893.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:13 am
by Squawk
I liked the first line, where it included the statement "who's photo we give above" - LOL! More like a sketch!

Re: Albert Green. Champion Footballer of 1893.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:01 am
by Leaping Lindner
therisingblues wrote:
Leaping Lindner wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:I'm still trying to uncover the reasons why he didn't play for Norwood after 1898. Mike Coward seems to think it was because he was residentially tied to both the Sturt Football & Cricket Clubs, and whereas he was happy to play cricket for Sturt, he didn't want to play football for them. However, Sturt weren't in the league at that time, so it doesn't make sense.


More likely than not it would have been another club's area (until 1901) - South perhaps??


That would make sense. Also would explain why there is a difference between playing cricket and footy in the same area.


I've been doing research on the District System and this is clause #8 as put forward by W.B Griffith when he first proposed the District System in August 1896.

"8. That the electoral district of Sturt be allotted to a club to be called the South Adelaide, or other name."

Mystrey solved (?) for now.