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1912 Rhodes Scholar

PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:23 pm
by MagareyLegend
For some time North Adelaide Football Club has suspected that one of its young stars from the very early days was a Rhodes Scholar but, because it was so long ago and he had such a common surname, it has been difficult to substantiate.

However, recent research has unearthed startling details that have changed all of that.

From The Adelaide Advertiser Tuesday 12 December 1911

THE RHODES SCHOLAR

DR E B JONES SELECTED


His Excellency the Governor presided at a meeting of the selection committee for the Rhodes scholarship at Government House on Monday morning, when three hours were occupied in selecting the Rhodes Scholar for 1912. The full committee, consisting of his Excellency the Governor (chairman) the Chief Justice (Sir Samuel Way). Mr. G. J. R. Murray. K.C. Mr. J. R. Fowler, Professor Henderson, Professor Chapman, and Mr. C. R. Hodge (secretary), was present. The meeting did not conclude until about 1 o'clock, when it was announced that the successful candidate was Dr. E. B. Jones, house surgeon at the Adelaide Hospital, and son of Mr. E. B. Jones (Government Valuator). There were five candidates, whose qualifications made them uncommonly even in merit, and the selection was a difficult task. Dr. Jones, however, has a record of which any student might justly be proud. It is well known that he was high up in the list of candidates last year.

Scholastic Career
Mr. Edmund Britten Jones, M.B., BSc. is now 23 years old, he having been born on October 8, 1888. He was educated first at St. Dominic's Priory, North Adelaide, and then for a brief term at Xavier College, Melbourne, "passing from there to Christian Brothers' College, where he remained from 1899 until 1905. In 1901 he passed in eight subjects at the Primary examination, and in 1902 and 1903 he passed the Junior public examination, the second time gaining first place in the honours list, and a £10 scholarship. In 1904 and 1905 he passed the Senior public examination and the Higher public examination respectively, being near the top of the honours list each time. He entered the University in 1906, and took the M.B., B.Sc. course. His record at the University was consistently good. He passed the first year in the first-class division, being second on the pass list for the year. The following year he failed in anatomy, but passed a supplementary examination in March. In 1908 and 1909 he passed first-class, and also secured first place on the list, and the Dr. Davies Thomas scholarship each year. In his graduating year (fifth) he passed second class, but was placed first on the list, and was awarded the Everard scholarship.

Sporting Achievements
Dr. Jones was materially assisted in his candidature by his ability to fulfil the requirements in regard to outdoor sports. He has taken an interest and an active part in cricket, football, athletics, handball, and tennis. He played cricket with C.B.C. A team during the 1903-4-5 seasons, was a member of the University B team in 1909-10, and was elevated to the A team last year. He secured his blue for good all-round performances on the cricket field this year. He played football in the C.B.C. first team for four years prior to leaving that college and with the University first team in 1906-7 and 1911. He played in the inter-University football match in 1906-7, and 1910-11, and gained his football blue in 1908. He played with North Adelaide in the South Australian League in 1910. In athletics he won the CBC cup in 1905, and was member of the inter-University running team in 1906-7-10. He won five handicap races at the University sports meeting. He has been a consistently good performer at handball. He won the C.B.C. doubles championship in 1905, was the South Australian singles champion in 1907, one of the State doubles champions in 1906-7-8-9. He engaged in inter-State handball in 1907 and 1909 and assisted to win for South Australia the inter-State- doubles championship in the latter year. In tennis he was runner-up in the singles and doubles contest at the University tournament in 1908. The new Rhodes Scholar has always enjoyed popularity among his schoolmates.
He was a member of the C.B.C. cricket and football team selection committee, and vice captain of a cricket team in 1904 and 1905. At the University he has filled the following positions:-

• a member athletic committee in 190S, 1910, 1911;
• a selector of inter-University running team, 1910;
• a member union room committee, 1909;
• a member football club committee, 1910;
• a selector of inter-varsity teams in 1910;
• vice-captain University team in 1910;
• member football blue committee, 1910;
• member general committee of University Sports Association;
• member University procession committee, 1909. 1910;
• joint secretary of University procession and concert, 1910;
• selector delegate, and member of committee of University B cricket team, 1909, 1910;
• committee of Medical Students' Society, 1909 and 1910:
• secretary Medical Students' Society, 1908;
selection committee of North Adelaide football team, 1910;
• committee of Christian Brothers' Old Collegians' Association. 1910;
• house surgeon, Adelaide Hospital, 1911;
• acting Medical superintendent, Adelaide Hospital, April and September, 1911.

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Edmund Britten Jones was a student at CBC from 1899-1905. When he graduated he was ranked the 7th highest student in South Australia. He studied medicine at Adelaide University and went to Oxford on a Rhodes Scholarship in 1912. The Scholarship was awarded on a criterion of good character, high scholastic ability and participation in outdoor sport. Upon graduating from Oxford in 1914 he enlisted in the Medical Corps during World War One and then returned to Adelaide where he practiced medicine at the Queen Victoria and the Children’s Hospitals. He also served in World War Two. He was knighted in 1953 and died later that year.

I think he debuted for North in 1907, aged 18, when he was awarded the "Best Junior" medal - a prestigous award in days when very few awards or trophies were given.

1908 NAFC ANNUAL REPORT

Your Committee tender to your Captain, Mr. C. L. Jessop, their best wishes for his success in the practice of his profession, and its heartiest congratulations to Dr. W. A. V. Drew on obtaining the degree of Bachelor of Medicine, and to your brilliant centre, Mr. E. B. Jones, on attaining the distinction of Dr. Davies Thomas Scholar of 1908. - he was only 19yo then & played 12/13 games that year.

1910 NAFC ANNUAL REPORT

Selection Committee
CAPTAIN, VICE-CAPTAIN, MESSRS. E. B. JONES, J. C. REEDMAN, AND R. BURTON.

Interstate Matches.
Home and home matches were played with the Victorian Football Association, each State winning one. Your Club was represented in the matches by Messrs, C. F Drew, E. B. Jones, B. and T. Leahy.

PERSONAL
Your Committee also desires to tender congratulations to your players, Messrs. E. B. Jones, C. F. Drew, K. N. Steele, and F. N. LeMessurier, on their recent successes at the University Examinations, especially to Dr. Jones on the completion of his medical course.
he played 11/12 games in 1910

I believe he is the only SANFL League Footballer to be awarded a Rhodes Scholarship. I truly remarkable man.

GO THE NORTHS!

Re: 1912 Rhodes Scholar

PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:27 pm
by bayman
amazing effort & i doubt we'll never ever see it again

Re: 1912 Rhodes Scholar

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:13 am
by drebin
He and the great John Riley would be probably the two most educationally qualified / gifted League Footballers in SANFL history.

Re: 1912 Rhodes Scholar

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:03 am
by Psyber
Let's see... Doc Clarkson - Renal Unit specialist, Peter Oatey - Neurosurgeon.
A Rhodes Scholarship doesn't prove a lot - the guy who got it in my year wasn't the most gifted, but was diligent in his aim to win it..

Re: 1912 Rhodes Scholar

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:34 am
by Pseudo
One might mention Dr. Liptak as well.

Re: 1912 Rhodes Scholar

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:43 am
by MagareyLegend
drebin wrote:He and the great John Riley would be probably the two most educationally qualified / gifted League Footballers in SANFL history.

Thought the same thing Skeff - makes John Riley look like a Dumbo like me.

Psyber wrote:Let's see... Doc Clarkson - Renal Unit specialist, Peter Oatey - Neurosurgeon.
A Rhodes Scholarship doesn't prove a lot - the guy who got it in my year wasn't the most gifted, but was diligent in his aim to win it..

"of course I should have realised - silly of me to overstate such a menial award"

It's not just the Rhodes Scholarship its the collective - for example he also went to two World Wars and was Knighted.
Did Clarkson and Peter Oatey plays as many other sports?
Was Peter Oatey even a State footballer?

Re: 1912 Rhodes Scholar

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:43 am
by drebin
I did say probably as opposed to were :roll: At least at the NAFC I would say they are!

I wasn't trying to down play the others educational exploits but in terms of Ed Jones - he is still ahead of the others if it is based on the titles and positions he has held (albeit in a good few decades earlier) if we want to get into a "mines bigger than yours" debate!

John Riley should maybe left in category of his own as far as comparison as I don't believe there is any comparable footballer who has undertaken his study and obtained his qualifications, which he humbly answered once when asked about how he combined both the academic and top level sport - he had no one to compare it against.

Re: 1912 Rhodes Scholar

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:34 pm
by Footy Chick
There are a no. of Britten-Jones' that graduated from St Ignatius as well, and most ended up dux, not sure whether anymore of them went on to win the Rhodes scholarship though.

Rog might be able to shed some light, i reckon there might have been one in his year or thereabouts.

Re: 1912 Rhodes Scholar

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:50 pm
by robranosgod
drebin wrote:He and the great John Riley would be probably the two most educationally qualified / gifted League Footballers in SANFL history.


Dr John Lill and Dr Dudley Hill were two other outstanding footballers and outstanding scholars.

John Lill is someone I think is very underrated these days. He was a Doctor of Engineering, he was definitely Norwood's best player in the 1960 grand Final and may have been in 1961 as well. He was an outstanding opening batsman for South Australia who probably should have been chosen for Australia and later went on to run the MCG. I wonder what he did in his spare time.

Dudley Hill was an outstanding ruckman for North Adelaide for a few years from about 1963 to 1966. He was a very good mark and good kick in an era when a lot of the ruckmen were purely "tap" ruckmen. He is still one of Australia's leading dermatologists (skin specialists).

Re: 1912 Rhodes Scholar

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:02 pm
by rogernumber10
Britten-Jones. A name I've not heard in a long time and a quite amazing record from Edmund at the turn of the century which I never knew.

At school, two brothers were a couple of years ahead of me and one brother well, well behind.
The first brother was dux and school vice-captain and rolled straight into law from memory on a near perfect score. Solid footballer and solid runner.
The second brother was dux and school captain and rolled straight into law as well. Pretty good footballer but absolute super star middle distance runner. Held a number of state records for 800 up to 5000m in his various age groups as he progressed through school.
Those two, along with a couple of others, were held up as the model for us younger kids. Not that our school wanted to produce lots of lawyers and doctors of course.
The third brother was much younger and after my time so don't know what he was like academically, but watched him play footy and he was a star as a kid.

Re: 1912 Rhodes Scholar

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:13 pm
by dedja
Great effort DR E B.

As an aside, let's make it easier and start the dumbarsed footballers topic and I'm sure we'll get a few more takers ... ;)

Re: 1912 Rhodes Scholar

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:11 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
MagareyLegend wrote:Did Clarkson and Peter Oatey plays as many other sports?
Was Peter Oatey even a State footballer?


I think Clarkson played cricket, I think I heard stories about him playing in England when he was there. Not sure at what level. I have a feeling he also played district cricket for Sturt and University.

Peter Oatey was an outstanding tennis player, I think he won the equivalent to the Magarey Medla in South Australian tennis. Not sure how they voted for the award. He never played state football but would have to have been considered at some stage as he was Norwood's No.1 rover ahead of brother Robert at one stage.

Re: 1912 Rhodes Scholar

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:32 am
by Leaping Lindner
My mum's doctor (on Walkerville Terrace) is a Britten-Jones. Will have to try to see if they are related.