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Just been thinking how dominant the Bays have been over the last 3 years to not win a premiership.

What is the most wins by a club in a 3 year period to have not won a premiership.

I imagine the Eagles 2000-2002 and Eagles 2003-2005 would be high in the rankings. Im guessing there may some Bays sides from the Glenelg vs North era around the mark as well.

Glenelg's stats from 87 to 90 would be interesting.

Just realised i put this in history not Spelly stats, feel free to move if you need to.

Depends what you class as dominance.
Glenelg from 74-77 or 78
Norwood from 84-89
Centrals 94-97
Could even say the 12 years Port went without a flag from mid 60's to mid 70's - recall someoen posting on here they were second 6 times, and only missed the finals once in those years.
But in each of those eras there were some other pretty good teams around.

FlyingHigh wrote:Norwood from 84-89

Norwood were strong from 85 to 89 but i personally wouldn't put them in the "dominant" category. They didn't make a grand final during that era, and whilst they had some excellent players, they weren't really the standout team on an ongoing basis. Whether they should have won a flag in that period, as has been discussed on this forum on a few occasions is another matter though. Probably a quality key forward away from another premiership to add to 84. I'm also not sure their defence was quite up to the standard of Port, North and Glenelg either, although some Legs fans might find that point to be debateable.

North from 1985-1990 were often dominant in the minor round and yet found wanting often in finals with the one notable exception of 1987. Remember that they won 4 minor premierships for just the one ultimate prize. An exciting ride, but a little disappointing.

I found it a little ironic that they snared the 1991 premiership after "only" finishing third at the end of the minor round. Perhaps Nunan had finally learned to "pace' the side more

robranisgod wrote:I found it a little ironic that they snared the 1991 premiership after "only" finishing third at the end of the minor round. Perhaps Nunan had finally learned to "pace' the side more

Not wanting to take any shine off the cup, but the teams finishing above North that year weren't exactly finals-hardened, and Westies were always going to find it tough coming from 5th.

Actually, none of the years put forward above is the record. Glenelg from 1980 to 1982 recorded 55 wins. Then comes Port from 1974 to 76 (51 wins).

Pseudo wrote:

robranisgod wrote:I found it a little ironic that they snared the 1991 premiership after "only" finishing third at the end of the minor round. Perhaps Nunan had finally learned to "pace' the side more

Not wanting to take any shine off the cup, but the teams finishing above North that year weren't exactly finals-hardened, and Westies were always going to find it tough coming from 5th.

You don't take any shine off the cup. The 1991 cup shines just as brightly as any of the other 12 that North have won. You can only beat whoever qualifies for the finals.

robranisgod wrote:

Pseudo wrote:

robranisgod wrote:I found it a little ironic that they snared the 1991 premiership after "only" finishing third at the end of the minor round. Perhaps Nunan had finally learned to "pace' the side more

Not wanting to take any shine off the cup, but the teams finishing above North that year weren't exactly finals-hardened, and Westies were always going to find it tough coming from 5th.

You don't take any shine off the cup. The 1991 cup shines just as brightly as any of the other 12 that North have won. You can only beat whoever qualifies for the finals.

Missing the point? I think North's success from third had more to do with North's extensive finals experience rather than any "pacing" by the coach. That's all; I was not having a swipe.

Pseudo wrote:

robranisgod wrote:

Pseudo wrote:

robranisgod wrote:I found it a little ironic that they snared the 1991 premiership after "only" finishing third at the end of the minor round. Perhaps Nunan had finally learned to "pace' the side more

Not wanting to take any shine off the cup, but the teams finishing above North that year weren't exactly finals-hardened, and Westies were always going to find it tough coming from 5th.

You don't take any shine off the cup. The 1991 cup shines just as brightly as any of the other 12 that North have won. You can only beat whoever qualifies for the finals.

Missing the point? I think North's success from third had more to do with North's extensive finals experience rather than any "pacing" by the coach. That's all; I was not having a swipe.

You obviously don't remember the 1991 season very well then. North had the bye for the last minor round game, Nunan declared that they couldn't afford to win the minor premiership, a three week break was just too much to risk at that time of the year, so they certainly did lose matches that they normally would have been expected to win. North's build up was completely different to any other year in which they participated in the finals.

Pseudo wrote:

robranisgod wrote:I found it a little ironic that they snared the 1991 premiership after "only" finishing third at the end of the minor round. Perhaps Nunan had finally learned to "pace' the side more

Not wanting to take any shine off the cup, but the teams finishing above North that year weren't exactly finals-hardened, and Westies were always going to find it tough coming from 5th.

What a condesending comment!

North final hardened in 1985 were they when the Bays won their 3rd flag?

Lucky you have played North in 3 of your 4 flag wins otherwise your record be well less than it's current status! Start shining your cups.

on the rails wrote:

Pseudo wrote:Not wanting to take any shine off the cup, but the teams finishing above North that year weren't exactly finals-hardened, and Westies were always going to find it tough coming from 5th.

What a condesending comment!

North final hardened in 1985 were they when the Bays won their 3rd flag?

Like North in '91, Glenelg in '85 also won from third spot. And somewhat like North in '91, Glenelg was also fortunate in that its only rival for the flag (once the Norwood hurdle had been cleared) was relatively inexperienced in finals. I don't doubt for a second that this was a factor in winning that flag.

See as much condescension in this as you like. None was intended, but if you get your knickers in a knot over the simple reality of the situation then I'll call that a bonus.

GWW wrote:Glenelg's stats from 87 to 90 would be interesting.

Glenelg struggled in the minor round between 87-89.

IIRC, 12 wins in '87, 13 in '88 and 12 in '89.

Played in the Elimination Final every year.

Won their way to the GF in '87 and '88.

Second on the ladder (to Port) in 1990 with 16 wins and a draw.

MP, reckon in 1988 the Bays finished in the elimination final after being top three all year, but dropped to late games where they had big leads against West and Port. Recall it being discussed on a thread here somewhere

In 87-88 I didn't regard us as the 2nd best team, we just had very good Septembers so finsished higher than we probably should've - 3rd.

FlyingHigh wrote:MP, reckon in 1988 the Bays finished in the elimination final after being top three all year, but dropped to late games where they had big leads against West and Port. Recall it being discussed on a thread here somewhere

Pretty tight that year among the top six teams.

One of those costly games dropped was against Port in round 20.

Lost by three points after leading by five goals at 3/4 time.

Payback for us hitting the post FIVE TIMES in the '87 first semi.

Still can't believe Abba hit the the post inside the last minute...

Magpiespower wrote:

FlyingHigh wrote:MP, reckon in 1988 the Bays finished in the elimination final after being top three all year, but dropped to late games where they had big leads against West and Port. Recall it being discussed on a thread here somewhere

Pretty tight that year among the top six teams.

One of those costly games dropped was against Port in round 20.

Lost by three points after leading by five goals at 3/4 time.

Payback for us hitting the post FIVE TIMES in the '87 first semi.

Still can't believe Abba's hit the the post inside the last minute...

Still reckon you had a goal called a point in that game too

West finished 2nd at the end of the minor round in 1956, 1957, 1958 and 1959 without winning a premiership. Not an era of dominance, but a quality era nonetheless.
We've also had several eras of incompetence without a premiership.

nickname wrote:West finished 2nd at the end of the minor round in 1956, 1957, 1958 and 1959 without winning a premiership. Not an era of dominance, but a quality era nonetheless.
We've also had several eras of incompetence without a premiership.

I just finished reading through the scores of the GF's in the 50's ... I knew the Bloods lost a close GF, but didn't realise they were all close