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1979 season - including Magarey Medal

Posted:
Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:35 pm
by rd
1979 Magarey Medal was won by John Duckworth (CD) with 44 votes ahead of Peter Cloke (NA) 39.
Team votes - NWD 145, SA 122, CD 121, GLG 119, NA 112, WA 112, TORR 110, WDV 108, STURT 101 & PORT 90.
Yep - Port the 1979 premiers came last in the Magarey Medal team tally.
Has this happened in any other year where the premiership team has ranked bottom in the Magarey Medal?
Re: 1979 Magarey Medal

Posted:
Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:51 pm
by GWW
That is a fairly amazing stat.
I guess with Ebert being at North Melbourne, the umpires didn't know who to award the votes too

A lot of Port's best players were probably in defence (Phillips, Giles, Eckermann etc), plus Evans in the Forward line, generally defenders and forwards don't poll a lot of votes, given the amount of times midfielders win these awards.
Re: 1979 Magarey Medal

Posted:
Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:52 am
by rd
I remember as the 79 season progressed that the common vibe around town was that "this was the year to steal a premiership" as 2 of the big 4 - Glenelg & Sturt were terrible and missed the finals, while reigning premier Norwood were inconsistent and went out to South in the 1st Semi. Woodville made the finals for the first time ever - but went into the finals with no form having lost their last 4 minor round matches to Sturt, South, West and Torrens (3 of that four finished 8,9 and 10). South and Centrals probably played the best footy during the minor round but their exciting skillful pacy players had no answer to Port's finals hardened mob once September started. Even Port fans I knew were saying that season that Port's team weren't a patch on the 77 side. Port's leading MM vote getters were Faletic 21, D Cahill 13, G Phillips 11, Clifford 9 and Cunningham 7.
Re: 1979 Magarey Medal

Posted:
Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:57 am
by dedja
Was a terrible GF ... cold, wet and the last quarter consisted of Greg Phillips continually thumping the ball out of bounds.
Interesting Magarey stat though ...
Re: 1979 Magarey Medal

Posted:
Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:05 pm
by rd
dedja wrote:Was a terrible GF ... cold, wet and the last quarter consisted of Greg Phillips continually thumping the ball out of bounds.
Interesting Magarey stat though ...
Last nights AFL umpires for the West Coast/Geelong game would have had a great time dealing with Greg Phillips and his deliberate out of bounds strategy...
Re: 1979 Magarey Medal

Posted:
Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:18 pm
by GWW
I was only 7 that year so don't remember a huge amount, but do remember watching that Grand Final on tv.
The main thing I think of in relation to that GF, was the incredible amount of points South scored, I'm thinking quite a few would have been rushed.
I've heard some say that South were the best side that year -not sure if they finished minor premiers - and that they probably went into the GF as favourites.
Re the actual Magarey Medallist, John Duckworth (I remember the lame joke at the time - "Whats a duck worth? ..Answer -A Magarey Medal") - anyone got any further info on him? I dont think he stayed at Centrals that long after being recruited from Western Australia. Played some footy in the VFL, with Fitzroy?
Kicked quite a few goals, but was more of a flanker/midfielder than key forward?
Re: 1979 Magarey Medal

Posted:
Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:35 pm
by FlyingHigh
rd wrote:I remember as the 79 season progressed that the common vibe around town was that "this was the year to steal a premiership" as 2 of the big 4 - Glenelg & Sturt were terrible and missed the finals, while reigning premier Norwood were inconsistent and went out to South in the 1st Semi. Woodville made the finals for the first time ever - but went into the finals with no form having lost their last 4 minor round matches to Sturt, South, West and Torrens (3 of that four finished 8,9 and 10). South and Centrals probably played the best footy during the minor round but their exciting skillful pacy players had no answer to Port's finals hardened mob once September started. Even Port fans I knew were saying that season that Port's team weren't a patch on the 77 side. Port's leading MM vote getters were Faletic 21, D Cahill 13, G Phillips 11, Clifford 9 and Cunningham 7.
rd, have been trying to google the 1979 ladder with no luck - where would have Woodville finishsed if they won 3 of those last 4 games (assuming a loss to South). Thanks.
Re: 1979 Magarey Medal

Posted:
Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:37 pm
by Interceptor
GWW wrote:I've heard some say that South were the best side that year -not sure if they finished minor premiers - and that they probably went into the GF as favourites.
Centrals were minor premiers, South must have finished 2nd or 3rd but lost to Port in the QF.
Norwood beat Woodville in the EF, but lost to South in the 1st SF.
Port beat Centrals in the 2nd SF and South went on to beat Centrals in a high scoring PF.
So I expect Port would have been clear favourites given their experience and path into the GF.
Re: 1979 Magarey Medal

Posted:
Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:04 pm
by JK
GWW wrote:I guess with Ebert being at North Melbourne, the umpires didn't know who to award the votes too

Their excitement at his return explains the medal he was gifted the following year

Re: 1979 Magarey Medal

Posted:
Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:51 pm
by GWW
JK wrote:Their excitement at his return explains the medal he was gifted the following year

Its not that extraordinary for the best player in the most dominant minor round side to win the medal

He'd already won 3 so it wouldn't be classed as a fluke

Re: 1979 Magarey Medal

Posted:
Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:01 pm
by smac
GWW wrote:I was only 7 that year so don't remember a huge amount, but do remember watching that Grand Final on tv.
The main thing I think of in relation to that GF, was the incredible amount of points South scored, I'm thinking quite a few would have been rushed.
I've heard some say that South were the best side that year -not sure if they finished minor premiers - and that they probably went into the GF as favourites.
Re the actual Magarey Medallist, John Duckworth (I remember the lame joke at the time - "Whats a duck worth? ..Answer -A Magarey Medal") - anyone got any further info on him? I dont think he stayed at Centrals that long after being recruited from Western Australia. Played some footy in the VFL, with Fitzroy?
Kicked quite a few goals, but was more of a flanker/midfielder than key forward?
All I can confirm is that whatsa never got over presenting me my participation medallion at Salisbury park primary school that year, he was never the same again.
Re: 1979 Magarey Medal

Posted:
Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:01 pm
by smac
GWW wrote:I was only 7 that year so don't remember a huge amount, but do remember watching that Grand Final on tv.
The main thing I think of in relation to that GF, was the incredible amount of points South scored, I'm thinking quite a few would have been rushed.
I've heard some say that South were the best side that year -not sure if they finished minor premiers - and that they probably went into the GF as favourites.
Re the actual Magarey Medallist, John Duckworth (I remember the lame joke at the time - "Whats a duck worth? ..Answer -A Magarey Medal") - anyone got any further info on him? I dont think he stayed at Centrals that long after being recruited from Western Australia. Played some footy in the VFL, with Fitzroy?
Kicked quite a few goals, but was more of a flanker/midfielder than key forward?
All I can confirm is that whatsa never got over presenting me my participation medallion at Salisbury park primary school that year, he was never the same again.
Re: 1979 Magarey Medal

Posted:
Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:44 pm
by JK
GWW wrote:JK wrote:Their excitement at his return explains the medal he was gifted the following year

Its not that extraordinary for the best player in the most dominant minor round side to win the medal

He'd already won 3 so it wouldn't be classed as a fluke

Not according to the great man himself
Re: 1979 Magarey Medal

Posted:
Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:11 pm
by Magpiespower
JK wrote:GWW wrote:JK wrote:Their excitement at his return explains the medal he was gifted the following year

Its not that extraordinary for the best player in the most dominant minor round side to win the medal

He'd already won 3 so it wouldn't be classed as a fluke

Not according to the great man himself
Umpies were just making up for '75 and '78...
Re: 1979 Magarey Medal

Posted:
Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:13 pm
by dedja
Peter Mead didn't help them enough?
Re: 1979 Magarey Medal

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Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:15 pm
by on the rails
Opening "pandora's box" if you want the North supporters to comment on Ebert's second medal and Duckworth winning in 1979. Best we leave it I say!
Re: 1979 Magarey Medal

Posted:
Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:27 pm
by smac
Be careful not to move on, otr!
Re: 1979 Magarey Medal

Posted:
Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:32 pm
by on the rails
smac wrote:Be careful not to move on, otr!
Whoops!

Re: 1979 Magarey Medal

Posted:
Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:18 am
by rd
FlyingHigh wrote:rd wrote:I remember as the 79 season progressed that the common vibe around town was that "this was the year to steal a premiership" as 2 of the big 4 - Glenelg & Sturt were terrible and missed the finals, while reigning premier Norwood were inconsistent and went out to South in the 1st Semi. Woodville made the finals for the first time ever - but went into the finals with no form having lost their last 4 minor round matches to Sturt, South, West and Torrens (3 of that four finished 8,9 and 10). South and Centrals probably played the best footy during the minor round but their exciting skillful pacy players had no answer to Port's finals hardened mob once September started. Even Port fans I knew were saying that season that Port's team weren't a patch on the 77 side. Port's leading MM vote getters were Faletic 21, D Cahill 13, G Phillips 11, Clifford 9 and Cunningham 7.
rd, have been trying to google the 1979 ladder with no luck - where would have Woodville finishsed if they won 3 of those last 4 games (assuming a loss to South). Thanks.
The 1979 Minor Round Ladder (22 games)
CD 15 wins & a draw
Port 14
South 14
Nwd 11
Wdv 10 %51.10
North 10 %47.49
Glg 9 & a draw
Torrens 9 & a draw
Sturt 9
West 7 and a draw
The 1979 West side are generally considered to be the best ever 10th ranked team !!
Re: 1979 Magarey Medal

Posted:
Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:30 am
by Leaping Lindner
Whoever won the toss was going to win the Grand Final. Port did. Also South had Ron Hateley out with an ankle injury and he was probably the best player in their team at that point.