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Peter Carey suspension for attempted striking

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:43 am
by Rushby Hinds
LL or someone, can u remember this?


Many moons ago Super was found guilty of attempted striking (he missed) and missed both the Bays losing finals that year.


(I can't remember if Glenelg took it to the supreme court.....)

I can remember the Bays investigated whether they could claim both the magoos and league games as a match each, but that didn't work.

Re: Peter Carey suspension for attempted striking

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:07 pm
by Leaping Lindner
Borat wrote:LL or someone, can u remember this?


Many moons ago Super was found guilty of attempted striking (he missed) and missed both the Bays losing finals that year.


(I can't remember if Glenelg took it to the supreme court.....)

I can remember the Bays investigated whether they could claim both the magoos and league games as a match each, but that didn't work.


1984 during the Qualifying Final against Central. He then missed the 2nd Semi against Port and Prelim against Norwood.
I also can't remember if the Bays took it further (eg: Supreme Court) but I know that Graham Campbell to this day claims it cost them a flag. Probably the most ridiculous charge ever invented "attempting"(WTF) to strike.

Re: Peter Carey suspension for attempted striking

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:40 pm
by Magpiespower
Leaping Lindner wrote: Graham Campbell to this day claims it cost them a flag.


Inaccurate b@stards cost us a flag.

11.23

FFS!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:01 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
And there I was thinking it was Norwood who cost them the flag :)

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:14 pm
by Magpiespower
Adelaide Hawk wrote:And there I was thinking it was Norwood who cost them the flag :)


Don't remind me.

Russell Ebert is culpable as well.

But gee, we had the wood on Glenelg that year - 4, zip.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:06 am
by Wedgie
If Cupido's "hit" got 1 game then Carey's attempt should have got 18 games.
Can't have it both way lads.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:50 am
by Pseudo
Wedgie wrote:If Cupido's "hit" got 1 game then Carey's attempt should have got 18 games.
Can't have it both way lads.

Carey's charge was lesser than Cupido's. Therefore if Cupido got a game, Super should have got a slap on the wrist.

In a perfect world Cupido would have got a reprimand, and Super wouldn't even have fronted the tribunal.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:53 am
by Wedgie
Pseudo wrote:
Wedgie wrote:If Cupido's "hit" got 1 game then Carey's attempt should have got 18 games.
Can't have it both way lads.

Carey's charge was lesser than Cupido's. Therefore if Cupido got a game, Super should have got a slap on the wrist.


I disagree, I think attempting to hit someone as opposed to not hitting someone nor attempting to hit someone is definately a much worse charge.
I saw the Carey incident and I saw the Cupido incident, both live and both on TV and both from a non-biased point of view (if anything I was hoping for a Glenelg win last week).
Not even comparable, you're clutching at straws or are so biased that you shouldn't be commenting on either incident if you claim otherwise.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:09 am
by Pseudo
Wedgie wrote:I disagree, I think attempting to hit someone as opposed to not hitting someone nor attempting to hit someone is definately a much worse charge.

So Kewpie doll was up on a charge of not-striking? That vile Panther did, with forethought and malice, not-hit McConnell?

The vicious bastard! May the law show him no mercy! :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:12 am
by Wedgie
Pseudo wrote:
Wedgie wrote:I disagree, I think attempting to hit someone as opposed to not hitting someone nor attempting to hit someone is definately a much worse charge.

So Kewpie doll was up on a charge of not-striking? That vile Panther did, with forethought and malice, not-hit McConnell?

The vicious bastard! May the law show him no mercy! :lol:


I don't care what he was up on a charge of, he did nothing nor attempt to do anything, anyone that calls that a strike is following the wrong game or has vested interest in not liking South.
I don't care what charge and umpire made nor do I care about what resulted in that charge when it comes to assessing the 2 incidents.
Common sense is the only thing Im interested in when it comes to comparing the 2 incidents.

And that doesn't even take into account that players regularly got games for attempting to strike in the early 80s where in the 00s players can rape, pillage and murder and not get a game.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:54 am
by Magpiespower
Wedgie wrote:...in the 00s players can rape, pillage and murder and not get a game.


Can the tribunal suspend players for the things they do off the ground? :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:17 pm
by Booney
Pseudo wrote:
Wedgie wrote:If Cupido's "hit" got 1 game then Carey's attempt should have got 18 games.
Can't have it both way lads.

Carey's charge was lesser than Cupido's. Therefore if Cupido got a game, Super should have got a slap on the wrist.

In a perfect world Cupido would have got a reprimand, and Super wouldn't even have fronted the tribunal.


Not that we want to transcend through different era's lads.Wonder if Cupiedough even knows who Super Carey is?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:03 pm
by oldfella
Correct me if I am wrong but didnt Carey get reported the year before or after for striking around finals time - found guilty but repremanded -- Seem to recall at time discussion that attempting was more serious than actual :shock:

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:08 pm
by Wedgie
oldfella wrote:Correct me if I am wrong but didnt Carey get reported the year before or after for striking around finals time - found guilty but repremanded -- Seem to recall at time discussion that attempting was more serious than actual :shock:


Yep, it makes sense though if you put some thought into it.
Attempted murder is more serious than tapping someone on the shoulder.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:20 pm
by oldfella
LOL

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:24 am
by leftlegger
geez, i am struggling to follow your logic on this one wedgie

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:49 pm
by matt
The funny thing is that if 'attempted striking' was still a suspendable offence then Cupido would definitely have gone, iirc. From the reply on the news following the verdict he definitely took a swing at McConnell, and a big one* at that.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:31 pm
by stampy
the last minor round game of 1985 for smacking johnny paynter i reckon and supe got off and he admitted later he was as guilty as sin :D