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Does anyone have any of the premiership teams before 1945? I have got the 1941 Norwood Premiership side, Magpiespower put on the FootySA Wiki the Port Adelaide Premiership sides before 1945, but apart from that I don't have any.

Also, does anyone have the three combined Premiership Sides during 1942-1944? Do they count towards a players' number of Premierships? I would have thought they do, but I have never seen the teams down before in print.

I have all the North teams, if someone doesn't post them before me I'll try and get them up* this week for ya.

spell_check wrote:Does anyone have any of the premiership teams before 1945? I have got the 1941 Norwood Premiership side, Magpiespower put on the FootySA Wiki the Port Adelaide Premiership sides before 1945, but apart from that I don't have any.

Also, does anyone have the three combined Premiership Sides during 1942-1944? Do they count towards a players' number of Premierships? I would have thought they do, but I have never seen the teams down before in print.

1943 Norwood-North Adelaide Premiership Team

FB: Price T.A, Martin O, Holmesby H.R,
HB: Hogan G.J, Lush L.R, Solomon M,
C: Hancock S , Pash J.H, Bell J.A,
HF: Sawley A.G, Reilly J.E, LePage K,
FF: Arbon O.M, Isaac W.E, Searle H,
1st Ruck: Henderson D, Hoskins R, Oatey J,
2nd Ruck: Price, Sawley, Arbon
19th Man: Dangerfield L.H

1944 Norwood-North Adelaide Premiership Team

FB: Hogan G.J, Martin O, Holmesby H.R,
HB: Halliday I , McFarlane D.S.A , Harby F.L,
C: Hancock S.G, Pash J.H, Bice P.J,
HF: Sawley A.G, Reilly J.E, LePage K.E,
FF: Way N.J , Isaac W.E, Searle H.R,
1st Ruck: Hoskins R.O, Price T.A, Arbon O.M
2nd Ruck: Way, Hogan, Sawley,
19th Man: Solomon M.M



If you want to know the first names of the above players and/or who were Norwood and who were North players let me know.
I'll get 1931,1930,1920,1905,1902 and 1900 up for you tomorrow.

I have teams from 1933 to 1944, as well as the 1904, 1907, 1922, 1923, 1925 & 1929 Norwood teams. I thought I had others but I can't seem to find them for some reason. I'll post these teams tonight when I have the time.

1942 PORT-TORRENS
Coach: Shine Hosking
F: Shaw, Kelleway, Scott
HF: Franklin, Dangerfield, Dayman
C: Glastonbury, Roberts, Nicholls
HB: McFarlane, Thiele, L.McLean
B: Johnstone, Obst, Martyn
Ruck: R.McLean, Reval, Skelley
Res: Tonkin

1941 NORWOOD
Coach: Perc McCallum
Captain: Kevin Hardiman
F: J.Schmelzkopf, K.List, L.Foweraker
HF: W.Allen, K.Hardiman, D.Tugwell
C: G.Whittaker, A.Sawley, P.Bice
HB: J.Seelenmeyer, S.Taylor, G.Lawrence
B: H.Holmesby, R.Calder, S.Roads
Ruck: W.McCallum, T.Price, J.Oatey
Res: L.Eaton

Well done, thanks for that.

When I have got them all, I'll update the premiership players list on here.

M.M Solomon - is that Harry Solomon?
J.E Reilly - on the players list there is a James Reilly who played one game for Norwood in 1946. Is this him or another player?
D. Henderson - I don't have this player on any list of mine. Perhaps he is one we've missed.
I. Halliday - Is it Ivan Halliday? Or Ivan Holliday?

spell_check wrote:M.M Solomon - is that Harry Solomon?
J.E Reilly - on the players list there is a James Reilly who played one game for Norwood in 1946. Is this him or another player?
D. Henderson - I don't have this player on any list of mine. Perhaps he is one we've missed.
I. Halliday - Is it Ivan Halliday? Or Ivan Holliday?

Yes, the J E Reilly is James E Reilly, the same one who played 1 game for Norwood in 1946. I will need to refer to my records, but D.Henderson would be Donald Henderson (for memory). And yes, it is Ivan Holliday. Not sure about M M Solomon.

I have all of the premiership teams.

Unfortunately, I'm in Sydney and they're in boxes in Adelaide.

Sorry!

Adelaide Hawk wrote:

spell_check wrote:M.M Solomon - is that Harry Solomon?
J.E Reilly - on the players list there is a James Reilly who played one game for Norwood in 1946. Is this him or another player?
D. Henderson - I don't have this player on any list of mine. Perhaps he is one we've missed.
I. Halliday - Is it Ivan Halliday? Or Ivan Holliday?

Yes, the J E Reilly is James E Reilly, the same one who played 1 game for Norwood in 1946. I will need to refer to my records, but D.Henderson would be Donald Henderson (for memory). And yes, it is Ivan Holliday. Not sure about M M Solomon.

That's Myer Solomon and he only played during the war years (43-44).

spell_check wrote:Does anyone have any of the premiership teams before 1945? I have got the 1941 Norwood Premiership side, Magpiespower put on the FootySA Wiki the Port Adelaide Premiership sides before 1945, but apart from that I don't have any.

Also, does anyone have the three combined Premiership Sides during 1942-1944? Do they count towards a players' number of Premierships? I would have thought they do, but I have never seen the teams down before in print.

That depends on if it was an OFFICIALLY sanctioned SANFL competition
or was conducted by the clubs, ala the World War 1 comp.

Mr66 wrote:

spell_check wrote:Does anyone have any of the premiership teams before 1945? I have got the 1941 Norwood Premiership side, Magpiespower put on the FootySA Wiki the Port Adelaide Premiership sides before 1945, but apart from that I don't have any.

Also, does anyone have the three combined Premiership Sides during 1942-1944? Do they count towards a players' number of Premierships? I would have thought they do, but I have never seen the teams down before in print.

That depends on if it was an OFFICIALLY sanctioned SANFL competition
or was conducted by the clubs, ala the World War 1 comp.

The matches played count towards players totals, so I guess the premierships do. But what I was thinking was that you don't see much written at all about these three years whether it be the premiership sides or any match played in this period - i.e. the turnaround in 1944 between Port-Torrens and Norwood-North in regards their last meeting before the GF and the GF.

1931 North Adelaide Premiership Team.

FF: Brian Burns; KenFarmer; Norm Proud
HF: Cliff Taylor ; Harold Hawke; Donald Phillis
C: Bill Mackay ; Stan Lock ; Norm Drew
HB: Herbert Mangelsdorf; Sid Burton; Daryl Conrad
FB: Cyril Barrett; Harry Fleet ; Don McInnes
1st Ruck: Percy Furler ; Clarrie Willshire; Garfield Storer
19th Man: Ken Burns

1930 North Adelaide Premiership Team.

FF: Jim McDowall ; Ken Farmer ;Cyril Barrett
HF: Clarrie Willshire; Sid Burton; Harold Hawke
C: Garfield Storer ; Stan Lock ; Norm Drew
HB: Cliff Taylor ; Herbert Mangelsdorf; Daryl Conrad
FB: George Foulis; Harry Fleet ; Alfred May
1st Ruck: Percy Furler ; Ray Munn ; William Thomas
2nd Ruck: Barrett; Willshire; McDowall
19th Man: Fred Hardwick

So with premierships from 1930-31; then 1941 onwards, there are now 744 players on the list.

1920 North Adelaide Premiership Team

FF: Lloyd Davies;Daniel O’Brien; Laurence Sprigg
HF: Frank Haines ; Percy Frost; Glynn Trescowthick
C: Russell Fuss; Percy Lewis; Albert Fooks
HB: Charles Penery; Snowy Hamilton; David Crawford
FB: Ivan Davey; Richard Foale; Leslie Reedman
1st Ruck: Tom Leahy; Frank Curnow; Vernon Maloney

1905 North Adelaide Premiership Team

FF: Ernie Johns; Bos Daly; John Reedman
HF: Charlie Jessop ; Charles Drew; Percy Fleet
C: Jack Rees; Edward MacKenzie; Norm Pash
HB: Tom Mackenzie; Frank Odlum; Herbert Ward
FB: Alec Ewers; James Matthews; Charles Fotheringham
1st Ruck: Jack Earl; Robert Young; Harold Pash

1902 North Adelaide Premiership Team

FF: Jack Earl; Ernie Johns; Bos Daly
HF: James Matthews ; Fred Dickenson; Norm Lemon
C: Norm Pash; Phil Sandland; Jack Rees
HB: Terry Bradley; Norm Clark; Norm Claxton
FB: Bill Dawkins; Alec Ewers; George Carter
1st Ruck: Charles Fotheringham; Charlie Jessop; John Reedman

1900 North Adelaide Premiership Team

FF: William Shaw; Norm Pash; Fred Dickenson
HF: Bill Dawkins ; James Matthews; Thomas McNamara
C: Horrie Wilmhurst; Ernie Mitchell; Harold Pash
HB: Norm Claxton;Ernie Jones; Norm Clark;
FB: William Baker; George Carter; Sam Heseltine
1st Ruck: John Reedman; H.Mumme; Charles Coates

797 is the total now.

Interesting to note that only 3 players played in all three of those 1900,02,05 sides - James Matthews, Norm Pash and John Reedman.

I've found the 1934 Glenelg Side I noted:

F: Arthur Link, Harold Percy, Jack Owens
HF: Lance Leak, Arch Goldsworthy, Frank Bergin
C: Dudley Shakes, Len Sallis, Clem Hill
HB: Murray Whittaker, Mel Brock, Fred Birrell
B: Glen Hale, Albert James, Len Griffith
R: George Johnston, Keith Olliver, Roy Colyer
Res: Reg Rosewarne

Here's a tough one for you all...

Premiership teams of the Patriotic League 1916-1918.

I've also got the runners-up teams.

Might have to get those boxes up here!

Magpiespower wrote:Here's a tough one for you all...

Premiership teams of the Patriotic League 1916-1918.

I've also got the runners-up teams.

Might have to get those boxes up here!

I think you will magpies power, I wasn't even aware they has a patriotic league in 1916-18. What were the teams?

Here's just a couple of teams before I get some work done ...

Norwood 1929
Coach: Walter Scott
Captain: Charles Daly
F: Ronald McDougall, Eric A Johnson, Albert Moyle
HF: Lyall Mutton, Gordon Wait, A "Ginger" Biddell
C: Stanley Appelbee, Jack Palmer, Charles Daly
HB: Albert Mitchell, Walter Scott, John Siggins
B: Hartley Pike, Syd Ackland, Arthur Geary
Ruck: Ern Wardham, HA "Buckets" Krome, Herbert Heffernan

Norwood 1925
Coach: Syd White
Captain: Syd White
F: Ern Wadham, Roy Bent, Michael Guerin
HF: Jack Palmer, Clyde Close, Lyall Mutton
C: William Heinrich, Alick Lill, Wybert Symonds
HB: Guy Stephens, Walter Scott, Syd White
B: Athur Geary, Syd Ackland, Charles Hepburn
Ruck: William "Tiger" Potts, Cecil Martin, Bertram Schumacher