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Playing an opponent twice in less than 5 rounds

PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:29 am
by spell_check
I thought I'd post this in here, because of the curious draw this year.

Playing an opponent not long after meeting them the last time is nothing new:

1 round:
10 & 11 1951 - W.A vs W.T
10 & 11 1951 - N.A vs P.A
(also played each other in Round 6)

2 rounds:
7 & 9 1910 - N.A vs W.A
9 & 11 1928 - W.T vs Nor
9 & 11 1928 - N.A vs Gl
13 & 15 1928 - Nor vs N.A
14 & 16 1928 - P.A vs St
9 & 11 1929 - Gl vs Nor
9 & 11 1929 - St vs N.A
14 & 16 1931 - Gl vs W.A
14 & 16 1937 - Nor vs Gl
14 & 16 1937 - W.A vs St
14 & 16 1938 - St vs S.A
14 & 16 1939 - P.A vs St
12 & 14 1940 - St vs Nor
12 & 14 1940 - W.A vs P.A
12 & 14 1948 - S.A vs St
12 & 14 1948 - Gl vs P.A
9 & 11 1951 - S.A vs St
9 & 11 1951 - Gl vs Nor
(both played each other in Round 6 as well)
8 & 10 1953 - Gl vs W.A
8 & 10 1953 - P.A vs W.T
8 & 10 1953 - N.A vs Nor
8 & 10 1953 - S.A vs St
18 & 20 1974 - Wd vs S.A
18 & 20 1978 - W.T vs Wd

There have been 101 occasions where two sides met 3 rounds apart, and 167 occasions where two sides have met 4 weeks apart, up to the start of this season.

The last occasion that this had happened was in 1978.

Re: Playing an opponent twice in less than 5 rounds

PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:24 am
by Booney
Port V South this year spelly,Round 14 and 18,both at Carlunga.

Re: Playing an opponent twice in less than 5 rounds

PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:17 am
by Dutchy
Heres one for you spelly, Glenelg have not had a bye between Round 8 and 20, is this unusual? Glenelg have played 11 games in a row

Re: Playing an opponent twice in less than 5 rounds

PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:55 pm
by Apachebulldog
Dutchy, Central has played 12 in a row very unusual draw for the Bays and Central ????????????

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Playing an opponent twice in less than 5 rounds

PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:28 pm
by spell_check
Booney wrote:Port V South this year spelly,Round 14 and 18,both at Carlunga.


Yeah. that list and info was up to the start of this season. North and Norwood also played each other in the same rounds.

Re: Playing an opponent twice in less than 5 rounds

PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:31 pm
by spell_check
It's the first time that Central has had more than 9 matches between byes (12 - between Rounds 4 and 15 this year)

Eagles had 14 matches between byes in 2003 - Rounds 9 to 22
Also, 11 matches between Rounds 2 and 12 2004

Glenelg had 10 between Rounds 4 and 13 1997
As well as 11 matches between Rounds 5 and 15 2005
And the 11 matches Dutchy pointed out this year between Rounds 9 and 19

North and Port since 1991 has never had more than 9 matches in a row in the minor round

Norwood has had 10 matches in a row between Rounds 11 and 20 1997
11 matches in a row between Rounds 3 and 13 2000
10 matches in a row between Rounds 11 and 20 2001

South had 13 matches in a row between Rounds 2 and 14 1997
11 matches in a row between Rounds 6 and 16 1999
10 matches in a row between Rounds 6 and 15 2002
12 matches in a row between Rounds 4 and 15 2004
11 matches in a row between Rounds 11 and 21 2005

Sturt had 11 matches in a row between Rounds 5 and 15 2000
15 matches in a row between Rounds 8 and 22 2004
10 matches in a row between Rounds 10 and 19 2005

West had 10 matches in a row between Rounds 3 and 12 1997

Note that all of these instances have come in a 23 round (20 match) season.

Re: Playing an opponent twice in less than 5 rounds

PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:32 pm
by smac
Obvious question comes next...

What's the smallest number of games between byes?

Re: Playing an opponent twice in less than 5 rounds

PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:11 pm
by spell_check
smac wrote:Obvious question comes next...

What's the smallest number of games between byes?



3 matches between byes on these occasions:
Eagles - Rounds 4 and 8 2003

Glenelg - Rounds 4 and 8 2002

North - Rounds 4 and 8 1997
Rounds 11 and 15 2006
Rounds 3 and 7 2007

Norwood - Rounds 6 and 10 1997

South - Rounds 17 and 21 1999
Rounds 17 and 21 2003

Sturt - Rounds 14 and 18 2007

West - Rounds 12 and 16 2007

Re: Playing an opponent twice in less than 5 rounds

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:20 pm
by spell_check
Port and West meet in Round 23 of this year, 17 rounds after their last meeting. This is the 2nd longest break between matches, Central and Woodville met in Rounds 2 and 20 in 1969.

There have been 8 occasions where the gap between meetings is 16 rounds, 1 in 1928 between Torrens and Sturt (Rounds 1 and 17), a full round in 1954 (Rounds 2 and 18), Port and South in Rounds 3 and 19 1969, Norwood and Glenelg in Rounds 4 and 20 1969, and Central and North in Rounds 6 and 22 of last year.

Re: Playing an opponent twice in less than 5 rounds

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:22 pm
by Booney
Words can't describe the wonder that surrounds your stats Spelly.... :lol:

Re: Playing an opponent twice in less than 5 rounds

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:55 pm
by spell_check
Booney wrote:Words can't describe the wonder that surrounds your stats Spelly.... :lol:


Would smileys help describe? ;)

Re: Playing an opponent twice in less than 5 rounds

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:44 pm
by Pseudo
Somebody should be harvesting these stats as spelly posts them. At the end of each year we could compile them into a "Best of Spelly Yearbook".

I'm being quite serious.

Re: Playing an opponent twice in less than 5 rounds

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:52 pm
by bulldogproud
Spelly, just wondering if a team may have played another three times in the space of three or four games? For instance, late in the minor round plus perhaps a Second Semi plus GF?
Cheers

Re: Playing an opponent twice in less than 5 rounds

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:19 pm
by spell_check
3 matches versus the same club in a row:
Port played Norwood in 1921 - 1st Semi, 1st Semi Replay, Challenge Final
Norwood played Glenelg in 1950 - Round 17, 2nd Semi, Grand Final
Eagles played Port in 1994 - Round 25, 2nd Semi, Grand Final
Central played Sturt in 2002 - Round 23, 2nd Semi, Grand Final

3 out of 4 matches versus the same club:
Port played Norwood in 1921 - 1st Semi, 1st Semi Replay, Challenge Final
Port played South in 1935 - Round 16, 2nd Semi, Grand Final
Glenelg played Norwood in 1950 - Round 17, 2nd Semi, Grand Final
Port played West in 1954 - Round 17, 2nd Semi, Grand Final
Port played West in 1956 - Round 17, 2nd Semi, Grand Final
North played Port in 1972 - Round 20, 2nd Semi, Grand Final
Glenelg played Sturt in 1976 - Round 21, Qualifying, Preliminary
Sturt played Glenelg in 1976 - Round 21, Qualifying, Preliminary
Port played Glenelg in 1977 - Round 21, 2nd Semi, Grand Final
Norwood played Port in 1997 - Round 23, 2nd Semi, Grand Final
Port played Norwood in 1997 - Round 23, 2nd Semi, Grand Final

Also, in 1919 North played Sturt 4 times in 6 games:
Round 13, 1st Semi, Challenge Final, Challenge Final Replay
And Sturt played North in those matches out of 5.

Re: Playing an opponent twice in less than 5 rounds

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:10 am
by bulldogproud
You are a genius, Spelly!!
Spelly for PM!!
Cheers