SA Hall of Fame Inducts 10 new Nominees Tonight

[Wedgie]

10 INDUTEES JOIN A LEAGUE OF SOUTH AUSTRALIAN FOOTBALL GREATS
South Australia’s elite parade of football legends grew to 160 tonight with the induction of 10 new heroes to the West End South Australian Football Hall of Fame, at a glitzy presentation dinner at AAMI Stadium.
Among the inductees was dual Magarey Medallist Andrew Jarman, giving the SA Football Hall of Fame its second set of brothers. The Jarmans – Andrew and Darren, who was inducted last year – join Norwood greats, brothers John and Anthony ‘Bos’ Daly in the Hall.
Also inducted tonight were dual Adelaide premiership captain Mark Bickley, Magarey Medallist and SANFL goalkicking record holder Scott Hodges, Port Adelaide, Collingwood, North Melbourne, Adelaide and state midfielder Bruce Abernethy, West Torrens and country great Kevin McSporran, two media personalities Ian Day and Max Hall who after playing or umpiring in the SANFL were pioneers in its television coverage, Glenelg and Carlton champion Andrew McKay and the late Jeff Bray and John Taylor, who was the first player to reach the 200-game milestone in the SANFL.
Bickley captured the pride of the 10 inductees when he said “I am certainly in very privileged company when I note who is in the Hall of Fame. To be considered worthy of being among these greats is indeed humbling. We have a place where the greats of every era can gather to pass on the legends of the South Australian game and make sure the traditions of the SANFL are never lost. I feel that responsibility to listen to the stories of the greats and make sure they are passed on to the future generations of our game.''

Ian Day
PLAYING RECORD:
♦ 67 games and 80 goals for West Adelaide 1952, 1954–1960
♦ 68 games and 98 goals for South Adelaide 1961–1964
♦ South Adelaide Captain 1963
PREMIERSHIPS:
♦ Member of the South Adelaide Premiership team 1964
ACHIEVEMENTS:
♦ Leading Goalkicker for South Adelaide 1964 & West Adelaide 1956
♦ SANFL Life Member 1965
♦ Life Member Coca-Cola Mini League
♦ SANFL Gold Media Award Winner 1991
MEDIA CAREER:
♦ Ian joined Channel 7’s television commentary team in 1965 as a pioneer of League Football television coverage with Blair Schwartz and Bob Jervis
♦ When Channel 9 secured the broadcast rights, Ian joined as its leading football commentator
♦ Ian finished his commentary career with Channel 2’s commentary team, retiring in 1994
♦ Ian is quoted as saying “I was extremely lucky in that the year I quit playing football was the year Channel 7 decided to televise the game. They asked me to become a commentator and when I pleaded I’d never done it before, they told me no-one had. We all learned together.”
As testament to his professionalism his colleagues offer the following:
♦ Ian felt for the players and was positive in his comments – although this did not stop him from analysing their style and passing relevant comment
♦ Ian was never false in his presentation
♦ Ian’s tone of voice was genuine when injecting excitement in the call
♦ Ian was renowned for his homework when calling both League and Reserves matches
♦ Ian prided himself on the fact that as a commentator he did not “rubbish” players and did not show personal bias
ADMINISTRATION:
♦ South Adelaide Board Member 1965-1967

Bruce Abernethy
PLAYING RECORD:
♦ 190 games and 115 goals for Port Adelaide 1979–1981, 1987–1992
♦ 43 games and 21 goals for North Melbourne 1982–1983
♦ 58 games and 16 goals for Collingwood 1984–1986
♦ 11 games and 2 goals for Adelaide 1991–1992
PREMIERSHIPS:
♦ Member of Port Adelaide’s Premiership teams 1979, 1980, 1981, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1992
MATCHES FOR SOUTH AUSTRALIA:
♦ 10 games and 3 goals for South Australia
♦ Bi-centennial Carnival Team 1988
MATCHES FOR AUSTRALIA:
♦ 3 International Rules games
ACHIEVEMENTS:
♦ Best and Fairest Port Adelaide 1987
♦ Jack Oatey Medallist 1988
♦ Port Adelaide Player Life Member 1994
OTHER AFFILIATION:
♦ Channel 7 sports journalist and presenter since 1990
♦ Port Adelaide Power Board Member 2006–2007
♦ Author of Book “Port to a Power”

Andrew McKay
PLAYING RECORD:
♦ 40 games and 2 goals for Glenelg 1991–1992
♦ 244 games and 28 goals for Carlton 1993–2003
♦ Carlton Captain 2003
PREMIERSHIPS:
♦ Member of the Carlton Premiership team 1995
♦ Member of the Carlton Pre–season Premiership team 1997
MATCHES FOR SOUTH AUSTRALIA:
♦ 6 games for South Australia 1993–1995, 1997, 1999
ACHIEVEMENTS:
♦ Best and Fairest Carlton 2003
♦ Fos Williams Medallist 1999 (vs Victoria)
♦ All Australian 1993, 1999, 2000, 2001
♦ Runner up to the Magarey Medal 1992
♦ Carlton Life Member

Jeff Bray (DEC) (Accepted by Helen Bray (wife))
PLAYING RECORD:
♦ 196 games and 83 goals for West Adelaide 1956-1963, 1967-1970
♦ 34 games and 2 goals for South Melbourne 1964-1966
PREMIERSHIPS:
♦ Member of the West Adelaide Premiership team 1961
MATCHES FOR SOUTH AUSTRALIA:
♦ 8 games for South Australia
INDIVIDUAL AWARDS:
♦ Best and Fairest West Adelaide 1960 & 1963
♦ Tomkins Medallist 1956
♦ Sam Suckling Medallist (Best First Year Player for West Adelaide ) 1957
♦ Advertiser Team of the Year 1960, 1961, 1963
♦ Advertiser Player of the Year 1963
♦ West Adelaide Player Life Member
♦ SANFL Player Life Member 1971
♦ Member of the inaugural West Adelaide Football Hall of Fame 2005
COACHING RECORD:
♦ West Adelaide Reserves Coach 1970–1971
♦ Henley Coach (SAAFL) 1973-1978

Max Hall OAM
UMPIRING RECORD:
♦ Field Umpire for 80 games 1953 – 1956
♦ Grand Final Umpire 1955
♦ Australian Championships Umpire (SANFL’s representative) 1953 & 1956
♦ President Umpires Association
MEDIA CAREER:
♦ Football commentator Radio 5KA 1958-1971
♦ Channel 9 Football Show Compere 1966-1979
♦ Solo hosted Magarey Medal Presentation
♦ Co-hosted Magarey Medal Presentation with Kevin Crease
♦ Chief Commentator with Ian Aitken, Ted Langridge, Bob Shearman and Wally May -
“Comment Wally May” on Channel 9 replays became the catchcry of the 70s
As testament to his professionalism his colleagues offer the following:
♦ Max was an “ideas man”, helping develop how football was covered in the electronic media –
he was prepared to ask “why not do this?”
♦ Max broke new ground when he recommended that Fran Shearman (wife of the late Bob
Shearman – SAHOF member) interview Sturt ruckman Rick Davies on his farm
♦ Max was considered one of the best on radio – he hosted 2 weekly shows and appeared on
“Stump the Sports”

Scott Hodges
PLAYING RECORD:
♦ 183 games and 690 goals for Port Adelaide 1987–1990, 1992-1998
♦ 38 games and 100 goals for Adelaide 1991–1993
PREMIERSHIPS:
♦ Member of Port Adelaide’s Premiership teams 1988, 1989, 1990, 1992, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1998
MATCHES FOR SOUTH AUSTRALIA:
♦ 3 games and 9 goals for South Australia
ACHIEVEMENTS:
♦ Magarey Medallist 1990
♦ Best and Fairest Port Adelaide 1990 & 1996
♦ Leading Goalkicker Port Adelaide 1988, 1989, 1990, 1994, 1996 (SANFL record holder for most goals kicked in a season – 153 in 1990)
♦ Ken Farmer Medallist 1990, 1994, 1996
♦ Leading Goalkicker Adelaide 1992
♦ Port Adelaide Player Life Member 1997
♦ Port Adelaide Hall of Fame 2002
COACHING RECORD:
♦ Port Adelaide Magpies Assistant Coach 2004
♦ Henley Coach 2005–2006
♦ Seaton Ramblers Coach 2001-2003, 2007

John Taylor (DEC) (Accepted by Greg Handke (son-in-law))
PLAYING RECORD:
♦ 165 games and 39 goals for West Adelaide 1936–1941, 1945–1949
♦ 38 games and 22 goals for Glenelg / West Adelaide 1942–1944
♦ 55 games and 26 goals for Glenelg 1950–1952
♦ West Adelaide Captain 1945, 1947, 1948
♦ Glenelg Captain 1950, 1951, 1952
PREMIERSHIPS:
♦ Member of the West Adelaide Premiership team 1947
MATCHES FOR SOUTH AUSTRALIA:
♦ Played 4 games for South Australia
ACHIEVEMENTS:
♦ West Adelaide Player Life Member
♦ SANFL Player Life Member 1949
♦ First player to play 200 games for the SANFL
♦ Member of the inaugural West Adelaide Football Hall of Fame 2005
COACHING RECORD:
♦ West Adelaide Coach 1948, 1949
♦ Glenelg Coach 1950, 1951, 1952

Mark Bickley
PLAYING RECORD:
♦ 64 games and 54 goals for South Adelaide 1989–1991
♦ 272 games and 77 goals for Adelaide 1991–2003
♦ Adelaide Captain 1997–2000
PREMIERSHIPS:
♦ Member of Adelaide’s Premiership teams 1997 & 1998
♦ Adelaide Premiership Captain 1997 & 1998
MATCHES FOR SOUTH AUSTRALIA:
♦ 7 games for South Australia
MATCHES FOR AUSTRALIA:
♦ 3 International Rules games
ACHIEVEMENTS:
♦ Best Team Man Award Adelaide 1992, 1993, 2000
♦ Adelaide Life Member 1999
♦ Member of the Adelaide Team of the Decade 2000
♦ First Adelaide player to play 150 games
♦ AFL Life Member
OTHER AFFILIATION:
♦ Television presenter for Channel 9 Adelaide
♦ All Australian Selector 2006 – current

Andrew Jarman
PLAYING RECORD:
♦ 165 games and 107 goals for North Adelaide 1983–1989
♦ 51 games and 33 goals for Norwood 1990, 1994, 1996–1997
♦ 110 games and 91 goals for Adelaide 1991–1996
PREMIERSHIPS:
♦ Member of the North Adelaide Premiership team 1987
♦ Member of the Norwood Premiership team 1997
MATCHES FOR SOUTH AUSTRALIA:
♦ 15 games and 6 goals for South Australia
ACHIEVEMENTS:
♦ Magarey Medallist 1987 & 1997
♦ Best and Fairest North Adelaide 1985 & 1989
♦ Best and Fairest Norwood 1997
♦ Fos Williams Medallist 1986, 1987, 1989, 1990, 1994
♦ All Australian 1987
♦ Member of the Adelaide Team of the Decade 2000
♦ SANFL Player Life Member 1996
♦ North Adelaide Life Member 2007
COACHING RECORD:
♦ North Adelaide Coach 2004 – current

Kevin McSporran (Accompanied by Kelly-Anne Camillo (daughter))
PLAYING RECORD:
♦ 176 games and 216 goals for West Torrens 1969–1973, 1977-1982
♦ 14 games and 29 goals for Woodville 1983
MATCHES FOR SOUTH AUSTRALIA:
♦ 3 games for South Australia 1981, 1982
ACHIEVEMENTS:
♦ Best and Fairest West Torrens 1977, 1978, 1980, 1981
♦ Leading Goalkicker West Torrens 1979
♦ SANFL Player Life Member 1981
♦ West Torrens Player Life Member 1982
AFFILIATED LEAGUES RECORD
PLAYING RECORD:
♦ 221 games and 447 goals for West Augusta 1966-1968, 1974–1976, 1984–1989
PREMIERSHIPS:
♦ Member of West Augusta’s Premiership teams 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976,1985, 1987, 1989
♦ West Augusta Premiership Coach 1985, 1987, 1989
ACHIEVEMENTS:
♦ Best and Fairest West Augusta (W.C. Archer Medal) 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1985, 1989
♦ Represented the Spencer Gulf League on eight occasions (four times as Captain Coach)
♦ Madigan Medallist 1974, 1975, 1976, 1985 (a record four times)
♦ West Augusta Life Member
♦ Spencer Gulf League Life Member
♦ Port Augusta Football League Hall of Fame Member
COACHING RECORD:
♦ Coached SA Country Side 1979, 1980
♦ Coached West Augusta 1985–1992
♦ Coached Quorn Wilsden 1993-1994

Following is the Committee who formally decide on all inductees:
Chairman - Max Basheer AM, John Halbert MBE, Robert (Bob) Hank, Barrie Robran MBE, Murray Ducker, Neil Kerley AM, Peter Carey OAM, Bob Hammond AM, Michelangelo Rucci, Leigh Whicker (SANFL Executive Commissioner - Non Voting), Glen Rosser (SANFL Football Operations Manager - Committee Secretary - Non Voting)
The charter of the South Australian Football Hall of Fame is to recognise and enshrine players, coaches, umpires, administrators and journalists who have made a most significant contribution to the game of Australian Football in South Australia since its inception in 1877.
To ensure the public is clear as to who is eligible for induction there are two main criteria that must be met:
- A player may only be eligible for induction into the Hall of Fame if that player has retired from playing Australian Football for a minimum period of three years.
- Coaches, umpires, administrators and journalists may only be eligible for induction into the Hall of Fame upon retirement.

[Squawk]

Andrew McKay is an interesting inductee.

40 games for Glenelg and the rest ( a lot!) with Carlton.
6 state games yes, but given the criteria talks about "contributions to Aust football in SA", he looks a bit light on against this criteria?

A great footballer no question, but I'm just not sure what got him over the line here?

[Magpiespower]

Andrew McKay is an interesting inductee.

40 games for Glenelg and the rest ( a lot!) with Carlton.
6 state games yes, but given the criteria talks about "contributions to Aust football in SA", he looks a bit light on against this criteria?

A great footballer no question, but I'm just not sure what got him over the line here?

Reakon it's fair enough.

Guess that's why it's the South Australian Football Hall of Fame and not the SANFL Hall of Fame.

Last thing we want is the crap that plagues the Australian Football Hall of Fame/VFL Hall of Fame.

Because it would be a great shame if future 'SA Greats' weren't able to be honoured by the SA Hall of Fame.

One could argue that it would be devalued if likely future inductees such as Pavlich, O'Loughlin etc were excluded because they plied their trade interstate...

[smac]

Ian Day
PLAYING RECORD:
♦ 67 games and 80 goals for West Adelaide 1952, 1954–1960
♦ 68 games and 98 goals for South Adelaide 1961–1964
♦ South Adelaide Captain 1963
PREMIERSHIPS:
♦ Member of the South Adelaide Premiership team 1964
ACHIEVEMENTS:
♦ Leading Goalkicker for South Adelaide 1964 & West Adelaide 1956
♦ SANFL Life Member 1965
♦ Life Member Coca-Cola Mini League
♦ SANFL Gold Media Award Winner 1991
MEDIA CAREER:
♦ Ian joined Channel 7’s television commentary team in 1965 as a pioneer of League Football television coverage with Blair Schwartz and Bob Jervis
♦ When Channel 9 secured the broadcast rights, Ian joined as its leading football commentator
♦ Ian finished his commentary career with Channel 2’s commentary team, retiring in 1994
♦ Ian is quoted as saying “I was extremely lucky in that the year I quit playing football was the year Channel 7 decided to televise the game. They asked me to become a commentator and when I pleaded I’d never done it before, they told me no-one had. We all learned together.”
As testament to his professionalism his colleagues offer the following:
♦ Ian felt for the players and was positive in his comments – although this did not stop him from analysing their style and passing relevant comment
♦ Ian was never false in his presentation
♦ Ian’s tone of voice was genuine when injecting excitement in the call
♦ Ian was renowned for his homework when calling both League and Reserves matches
♦ Ian prided himself on the fact that as a commentator he did not “rubbish” players and did not show personal bias
ADMINISTRATION:
♦ South Adelaide Board Member 1965-1967

Well done to all concerned, a terrific honour.

But how many mini league games did Ian Day play to get his life membership?

[woodwt]

How the hell did bickley and mckay get in There are heaps more players that did more for sanfl football , than what these 2 did!

[smithy]

How the hell did bickley and mckay get in There are heaps more players that did more for sanfl football , than what these 2 did!

I was going to write the same thing but cause its the SA football hall of fame (not the SANFL Hall of Fame) where people who didnt play an SANFl game but contributed greatly in country areas for instance are eligible.

[Wedgie]

How the hell did bickley and mckay get in There are heaps more players that did more for sanfl football , than what these 2 did!

I was going to write the same thing but cause its the SA football hall of fame (not the SANFL Hall of Fame) where people who didnt play an SANFl game but contributed greatly in country areas for instance are eligible.

Yeah but aren't the country areas still in South Australia?
Last time I looked Carlton weren't.

Using the criteria they used Ted Whitten could have been born at Mount Gambier, moved to Footscary when he was 1 day old and be eligiblwe for the SA football hall of fame?

[smithy]

How the hell did bickley and mckay get in There are heaps more players that did more for sanfl football , than what these 2 did!

I was going to write the same thing but cause its the SA football hall of fame (not the SANFL Hall of Fame) where people who didnt play an SANFl game but contributed greatly in country areas for instance are eligible.

Yeah but aren't the country areas still in South Australia?
Last time I looked Carlton weren't.

Using the criteria they used Ted Whitten could have been born at Mount Gambier, moved to Footscary when he was 1 day old and be eligiblwe for the SA football hall of fame?

I see your point and I agree that its a dodgy induction.
Just trying to point out how the SANFL might be justifying this.

[Dirko]

mmmmm. I am a huge fan of Macca...sensational player for the Blues. It is the SA Hall of fame, so I guess that is how he get's the nod.
If you look at the games played, similar to Bickley, so ???

I'd have to see the full list of members to see wether it's a just fit for BOTH macca and Bickley...

[Wedgie]

Yeah but Bickley played all of his career with a club based in South Australia whilst playing most of his football in South Australia so I can understand that appointment.
I assume from McKay's induction that you merely need to be born here or start your footy here?
Is Wayne Carey in there?
I would assume so as he played his junior football in South Australia and finished off his football career with a club in South Australia and was a better player than most.

[Dirko]

Yeah but Bickley played all of his career with a club based in South Australia whilst playing most of his football in South Australia so I can understand that appointment.
I assume from McKay's induction that you merely need to be born here or start your footy here?
Is Wayne Carey in there?
I would assume so as he played his junior football in South Australia and finished off his football career with a club in South Australia and was a better player than most.

If thats the case what about Braddles & Sticks ? They played the majority of their footy in VIC, as did Platts. Would've thought if it's a SA HALL OF FAME then if you represent a club in the highest grade competition, no matter who you played for, and you are South Australian, and the judges deem you worthy..you're in. Macca was drafted by the Blues, so therefore the way the game is now, most good young kids get drafted, often to interstate clubs, so in future years we may see the inclusions of Pavlich, Gibbs, Ottens, Camporeale etc etc have the same questions raised.

[Wedgie]

Yeah but Bickley played all of his career with a club based in South Australia whilst playing most of his football in South Australia so I can understand that appointment.
I assume from McKay's induction that you merely need to be born here or start your footy here?
Is Wayne Carey in there?
I would assume so as he played his junior football in South Australia and finished off his football career with a club in South Australia and was a better player than most.

If thats the case what about Braddles & Sticks ? They played the majority of their footy in VIC, as did Platts. Would've thought if it's a SA HALL OF FAME then if you represent a club in the highest grade competition, no matter who you played for, and you are South Australian, and the judges deem you worthy..you're in. Macca was drafted by the Blues, so therefore the way the game is now, most good young kids get drafted, often to interstate clubs, so in future years we may see the inclusions of Pavlich, Gibbs, Ottens, Camporeale etc etc have the same questions raised.

Yeah fair enough but I would have thought that Braddles and Sticks played a lot more games than McKay.

I suppose one thing to consider is McKay's games in State of Origin, mind you Wayne Carey also played in a State of Origin, I wonder if he'll ever get into the SA HOF if its consistent?

[Dogwatcher]

I would be very disappointed if Carey makes the SA Hall of Fame.
He played one state of origin game, but holds more store in the fact he's from Wagga.
Played very limited games with his SA based AFL club.

He will allows be regarded as a NSW product who played his footy for a Victorian club.

[Wedgie]

I would be very disappointed if Carey makes the SA Hall of Fame.
He played one state of origin game, but holds more store in the fact he's from Wagga.
Played very limited games with his SA based AFL club.

He will allows be regarded as a NSW product who played his footy for a Victorian club.

He only played 13 less games for the Crows than McKay played for Glenelg.

Im not having a go at the selection of McKay, just the possible inconsistincies, he was a great player and ambassador of the game.

Does anyone have a full list of the SA Hall of Fame inductees?

On a side note, I see Rucci wrote all the articles on the SA Hall of Fame today, obviously doesn't mind attending black tie dinners with drinks, food and entertainment but I don't see too many SANFL articles by him.

[Dirko]

http://www.sanfl.com.au/_content/docume ... 76-src.pdf

The link for the full list...150 members so far.

[Wedgie]

From NAFC.com.au:

Tribute to Andrew Jarman

The North Adelaide Football Club congratulates Andrew Newton Jarman on his induction into the SANFL Hall of Fame on 14 August 2007. Andrew joins his brother Darren who was inducted into the SANFL Hall of Fame last year.

Known as the Magician of Prospect from his early playing days, Andrew had a decorated playing career with North Adelaide, Norwood and the Adelaide Crows. He then turned to coaching, first taking Gaza to a premiership and more recently helping to resurrect the North Adelaide Football Club. In his first year as Senior Coach in 2004 he was able to use his considerable motivational skills to lift North Adelaide from the bottom into the finals and the Club has participated in the finals every year since.

League scouts began to take an interest in Andrew Jarman while he was playing for Gaza’s junior teams. Chased by several League clubs, it was at North Adelaide where his heart belonged, due in no uncertain terms to his idol, Barrie Robran.

In 1982 Jarman played with North’s very strong Under 17 side, and within 2 seasons would be promoted to League ranks. In Round 5, 1983, Jarman played his first League game versus Glenelg at the Bay. While the day was a special one for the young 17-year old, it was made even more memorable with North’s come-from-behind win. To add to the moment, Jarman’s first League kick resulted in a goal.

Despite only a handful of games in 1983, the signs were there that Andrew Jarman would soon be a regular selection in the League side. In 1984 he played 18 games and became an integral part of North’s fast, skill-orientated, promising young side, but it was in 1985 when Andrew’s magical talent was really at the fore for the football public to see. Now playing in the centre, he, along with the Club, had a glorious season, reaching the Grand Final. On a personal level, Andrew polled strongly in many media awards, and received North’s Best and Fairest award for his outstanding season. It was also in 1985 that Jarman was to realise another ambition by playing State football for the first time. In 1986, after a slow start, Andrew continued to dominate League football, and with younger brother Darren joining him in the League side, formed a “sixth sense” partnership that would dazzle other clubs for the next few years.

In 1987, all that Andrew could wish for in football would come true. The club would consummately win the Premiership, losing only 3 games out of the 24 for the season, and he would win the Magarey Medal as the League’s Best and Fairest. Renowned as being a flamboyant player with a larrikin character to match, the announcement of his Medal win brought silence from Andrew – some saying for the first time for many years.

Jarman continued to play dynamic, consistent football for North through 1988 and 1989, forming with Darel Hart, Steven Sims and brother Darren the always formidable “engine room” of North Adelaide. Despite winning his second Best and Fairest and being a leader in North’s onslaught to another Grand Final, 1989 would be his last at North Adelaide. After the 1989 Grand Final, which resulted in a disastrous loss, Jarman decided to leave North to make a fresh start at another club.

Andrew’s career certainly didn’t slow down after leaving North Adelaide. After completing a season with Norwood, he joined the newly formed Adelaide Crows, playing in their first AFL game (lining up against brother Darren, then at Hawthorn) and going on to play for six seasons. During this time he continued to represent South Australia, winning five Fos Williams Medals during his 15 State appearances. After his AFL career he returned to Norwood where, in 1997, he won his second Magarey Medal and Norwood’s Best and Fairest with the team taking out the Premiership. With all this having come to him, 1997 seemed a fitting year to end his League playing career.

Andrew joins brother Darren as the only brothers to be part of North Adelaide’s Team of the Century. He will always be remembered as the Magician of Prospect…

[Dogwatcher]

But as far as I'm aware, the SA Hall of Fame isn't contingent on actually having played great amounts of SANFL football in this state. Otherwise McKay wouldn't have been selected and neither would those members who're from the country.

McKay is a South Australian product, Carey (as much as many would like to claim him) is not and will never be considered as such.

I understand you're not debating McKay's position - a great ambassador for the game and our state - but I would always debate Carey being included. In my mind, he's not the best player to use in this debate about relevance to SA footy.

I think Nathan Buckley might be a more worthy person to debate this over. Played much more football here in SA than Duck. Has won a medal and a premiership in this state after moving here from the NT. But, is he South Australian. I'm not certain.

[Wedgie]

http://www.sanfl.com.au/_content/document/00050676-src.pdf

The link for the full list...150 members so far.

Cheers mate, Ive copied and pasted them here:

Abley John W 1931 - 1960*
Acraman John 1877-1900*
Adcock Brenton C 1961-1990*
Agars Merv S 1961-1990*
Aish Michael C 1961-1990*
Aplin Ken 1931-1960*
Argent Laurie 2005
Bagshaw, MBE Paul L 1961-1990*
Bahr J (Alby) 1901-1930*
Barbary Barrie 1961-1990*
Basheer AM Max R 2003
Bills J (Fred) 1961-1990*
Blight, AM Malcolm 1961-1990*
Boyd Dave E 1931-1960*
Bradley Craig 2006
Brebner, AM Don M 1961-1990*
Bunton Jnr Haydn 1961-1990*
Cahill John V 1961-1990*
Carey, OAM Peter G 1961-1990*
Churchett Colin J 1931-1960*
Cockburn Jack 2003
Cornes, OAM Graham S 1961-1990*
Crabb Allan J 1931-1960*
Craig Neil P 1961-1990*
Cunningham Brian 2005
Daly Anthony J (Bos) 1877-1900*
Daly John D (Bunny) 1877-1900*
Darley Peter M 1961-1990*
Davies E R (Rick) 1961-1990*
Davies F (Neil) 1931-1960*
Day Robert J 1961-1990*
Dayman Leslie C 1901-1930*
Deane J (Jim) G 1931-1960*
Ducker Murray E 1961-1990*
Ebert, OAM Russell F 1961-1990*
Eustice Ken J 1961-1990*
Evans Tim N 1961-1990*
Faehse Brian K 1931-1960*
Farmer Ken W G 1931-1960*
Fielke Grantley C 1991 Onwards*
Fitzgerald Len C 1931-1960*
Forrester, MBE John (Jack) 2006
Foster Des 1961-1990*
Furler Percy S N 1901-1930*
Gilbourne Don 2005
Golding Frank H 1901-1930*
Graham Michael W 1961-1990*
Grimm Norm L 2003
Halbert, MBE John A 1961-1990*
Hammond, AM R A (Bob) 1961-1990*
Handby H H (Jim) 1901-1930*
Hank R W (Bob) 1931-1960*
Hayes Neville C 1931-1960*
Head Henry R 1901-1930*
Head, MBE Lindsay H 1931-1960*
Hender Ned 1931-1960*
Hodgeman Kym H 1961-1990*
Hosking S (Shine) 1901-1930*
Huppatz Ray K 2003
Jackson Wayne R 2004
Jarman Darren 2006
Jervis Jnr Lawrie 1961-1990*
Johnson W (Vic) 2004
Johnston George B 193 -1960*
Kenny A (Tony) 2004
Kerley D (Neil) 1961-1990*
Kernahan Stephen S 1991 Onwards*
Kinnear Rick 2006
Kitschke Peter J 2005
Kneebone Ron G 1961-1990*
Kutcher, OAM Ray W H 1931-1960*
Leahy Tom J 1901-1930*
Lee R W (Bob) 1961-1990*
Lewis Percy 1901-1930*
Lill Alick G 1901-1930*
Lindner Don 1961-1990*
Lindsay Bruce A 2004
Lynch John (Jack) 2006
MacKenzie Tom D 1901-1930*
Marker Peter FJ 1961-1990*
Marlow Frank 1901-1930*
Marriott John E 1931-1960*
Marshall David A 2003
McDermott Chris S 1991 Onwards*
McGregor H (Bruce) 1901-1930*
McGuinness A B (Tony) 1991 Onwards*
McKay Ian L 1931-1960*
McLean, OBE AR (Bob) 1931-1960*
Mead Peter 1961-1990*
Mickan Mark J 1991 Onwards*
Millard Hugh 1901-1930*
Miller, OAM Wally H 2004
Moriarty Dan 1901-1930*
Morton OAM PT (Bo) 2004
Motley, OAM Geof 1931-1960*
Murdy Max A 1931-1960*
Naley Mark B 1961-1990*
Nelson PM (Sandy) 2004
Nunan Michael A 1961-1990*
Oatey Robert R 1961-1990*
Oatey, AM Jack 1961-1990*
Olds Doug W 1931-1960*
Oliver W (Harold) 1901-1930*
Owens Jack 1901-1930*
Pash Jeff H 2003
Phillips Greg I 1961-1990*
Phillips H (Ron) 1931-1960*
Phillis D K (Fred) 1961-1990*
Platten John P 1991 Onwards*
Pope Rodney J 2004
Potter Jeff G 1961-1990*
Quinn John 1901-1930*
Quinn R B (Bob) 1931-1960*
Redden Michael J 1961-1990*
Reedman John C (Dinny) 1877-1900*
Rehn Shaun 2006
Reval ARV (Bull) 2004
Richardson Victor Y 2003
Richens Colin H 1961-1990*
Roach Don V 1961-1990*
Roberts Allan J 2004
Roberts Neville 2006
Robran, MBE Barrie C R 1961-1990*
Rogers Andrew P 2005
Sallis Len D 1901-1930*
Schoff Rick F 1961-1990*
Schwartz, OAM Gordon 1961-1990*
Scott Walter 1901-1930*
Semmler AM Cliff 2005
Sewer Ralph S 1961-1990*
Seymour Hill, OBE Thomas 1931-1960*
Shearman R O (Bob) 1961-1990*
Simunsen Robert (Bob) 2006
Smith Bernie K 1931-1960*
Smith Colin G 2003
Smith M (Alton) 2003
Sweeney J (Laurie) 1931-1960*
Taylor Michael S 1961-1990*
Thompson Clayton C 2005
Tredrea J J (Jack) 1901-1930*
Tully Frank J 1931-1960*
Waldron A E (Topsy) 1877-1900*
Wedding K A (Bill) 1961-1990*
Weston Paul L 1961-1990*
Whelan A E (Ted) 1931-1960*
White Syd C 1901-1930*
Williams Mark M 2003
Williams, AM Fos N 1931-1960*
Window Gary 2005
Woods J J (John) 1901-1930*

[Wedgie]

Glaring omissions to me as a North supporter are:

Grenville Dietrich
Bohdan Jaworskyj
John Riley
Harold Hawke
Tony Antrobus
Mike Patterson
Norman Drew

[pipers]

Glaring omissions to me as a North supporter are:

Grenville Dietrich
Bohdan Jaworskyj
John Riley
Harold Hawke
Tony Antrobus
Mike Patterson
Norman Drew

Pretty sure Antrobus was in the last intake - earlier this year(?).

I remember, because I disagree with his inclusion. Good player, has a Magarey but not HoF standard. Bruce Abernathy is another marginal call in my view.

And McKay should not be in there - unless 2 or 3 solid state matches gets you the nod.

They need to decide if this HoF is an SANFL HoF or a state-based HoF. At the moment it is both, and some of those getting recognised would be more appropriate in the AFL HoF.