Grade Cricket

[maxi]

May come as a surprise to some but a lot lads want to play for grade cricket clubs and not community clubs and there’s lots of stories of lads starting in the fourths or thirds and developing into good first grade cricketers
If someone wants to play turf cricket for a grade club good on them. Grade cricket needs more good club people who are just happy to represent their club
Quite often it’s the lads who come through juniors and want to stay to their club and play with their mates. Cant stop that happening

[tigerpie]

I can't speak for all atca clubs but we have no relationship at all with our local grade club.
Probably what sealed that was them trying to steal our second ground from underneath us a few years back. It just smacked of pure arrogance and would've broken us as a turf club.

Grade clubs should be the elite pathway to first class cricket with only the very best talent playing.
If your game is not suited to a grade district standard or you are a very talented junior on your way then grade cricket shouldn't be for the average cricketer just because his mates are there.
That bloke should be playing a or b grade community cricket.

I know this doesn't help the business plan of the clubs but something has to give.
We are garbage at shield level and have been for far too long.

[Aerie]

I can't speak for all atca clubs but we have no relationship at all with our local grade club.
Probably what sealed that was them trying to steal our second ground from underneath us a few years back. It just smacked of pure arrogance and would've broken us as a turf club.

Grade clubs should be the elite pathway to first class cricket with only the very best talent playing.
If your game is not suited to a grade district standard or you are a very talented junior on your way then grade cricket shouldn't be for the average cricketer just because his mates are there.
That bloke should be playing a or b grade community cricket.

I know this doesn't help the business plan of the clubs but something has to give.
We are garbage at shield level and have been for far too long.

A priority should be good relationships with the community clubs. It benefits both.

I reckon you can go one of two ways if things are to change.

Either have every player aligned with a community club, where they pay subs and play if they don't make the grade. Then have a streamlined Premier Cricket comp (say three juniors grades Yrs 7/8, Yrs 9/10, Yrs 11/12) plus an A Grade and B Grade. Funded by SACA/Community Cricket.

Second option is to have bigger clubs where you have a larger social gathering and larger volunteer pool. You can fund your own facility upgrades. Pay your own coaches/players.

Mergers are always being discussed between grade clubs, but at the end of the day, besides the initial kick you get from a combined playing pool and financial bonuses, 15 years down the track you're in the same position as every other club you're playing against. If a merger needed to happen, I always thought a merger between a premier club and a turf club would be better. One social facility to take care of with heaps more people using it. One club to stay at your whole life to play forever and socialise/volunteer. The premier club and turf club could still maintain identity on field.

Perhaps a combination of the above is the future? Big cricket hubs where clubs share the profits from the social facility and costs are metered out to facilitate a high level program as well as provide facilities for everyone to play, if they choose to.

[Eagles2014]

Tom Cooper named new coach of Woodville, excellent appointment.

[Tony Clifton]

Grade club ATCA sides would be past player/veterans teams wouldn't they? Not really a 5th XI. I actually reckon a Premier "veterans" competition would go alright. Handful of games spaced out over the season.

Great to see Tom Cooper take the reins at Woodville. The more first class players involved at grade level the better.

[maxi]

Much movement in grade circles. Port have lost Keogh and Khan haven’t heard too much else

[The Hound]

Khan has gone to Adelaide, and Maneti is staying at Glandore for another 2 years

[C Horse]

Turley to port Adelaide

[Minimum Chips]

Turley to port Adelaide

I heard Josh Kann might be at Port as well.

[Eagles2014]

Turley to port Adelaide

I heard Josh Kann might be at Port as well.

Would be missing quite a few games at start of season.

What did he do to get lengthy suspension from the Prelim last year?

[Minimum Chips]

Turley to port Adelaide

I heard Josh Kann might be at Port as well.

Would be missing quite a few games at start of season.

What did he do to get lengthy suspension from the Prelim last year?

Heard that he and the ND 'keeper got done due to some pretty bad sledging toward a couple of the Adelaide players who may be of "new Australian" heritage.

[Eagles2014]

Turley to port Adelaide

I heard Josh Kann might be at Port as well.

Would be missing quite a few games at start of season.

What did he do to get lengthy suspension from the Prelim last year?

Heard that he and the ND 'keeper got done due to some pretty bad sledging toward a couple of the Adelaide players who may be of "new Australian" heritage.

That would make sense - the guy in C grade from East Torrens that got 9 games was for the same towards a Sturt player.

Kelly from Adelaide got few games in that prelim too, but played in the GF - not sure what he did or why he was allowed to play?

[The Hound]

Anyone now how the player points system will work? is it coming in this season or next? if this season some clubs may need to revise recruitment plans

[Gosaints]

Turley to port Adelaide

I heard Josh Kann might be at Port as well.

Would be missing quite a few games at start of season.

What did he do to get lengthy suspension from the Prelim last year?

Heard that he and the ND 'keeper got done due to some pretty bad sledging toward a couple of the Adelaide players who may be of "new Australian" heritage.

biggest flog to ever to walk on a cricket field. Complete waste of money.

[Eagles2014]

Anyone now how the player points system will work? is it coming in this season or next? if this season some clubs may need to revise recruitment plans

Heard rumour coming in this season. Working similar to ADFL but with 26 points each, players points go down every year etc. Not sure how the points work though re Overseas, interstate, other clubs, etc.

Would suggest Adelaide Uni be in big trouble if they continue to have so many Poms

[Armchair expert]

Anyone now how the player points system will work? is it coming in this season or next? if this season some clubs may need to revise recruitment plans

This season

Each club can play a max of 26 points per match, can recruit as many points as you want but can only play 26.

"Home grown talent – players who have come through a club’s junior system – will not count against the points tally.
But high-ranking overseas or international players could count for as many as eight points against a club’s cap number while acquiring players from rivals could also prove costly.
The longer a player is at a club the lower his points ranking will be."

"Under the new points system, the highest valued players will be internationals.
The points number will dwindle all the way down to zero for homegrown players.
Points will be weighted for international and State players, including at four-day, one-day and Twenty 20 level, while the amount of First Grade matches a player has under his belt will also be considered, with categories ranging from yet to debut to 1-20, 21-49 and 50 plus games."

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/sa ... 1720583983

[heater31]

Anyone now how the player points system will work? is it coming in this season or next? if this season some clubs may need to revise recruitment plans

This season

Each club can play a max of 26 points per match, can recruit as many points as you want but can only play 26.

"Home grown talent – players who have come through a club’s junior system – will not count against the points tally.
But high-ranking overseas or international players could count for as many as eight points against a club’s cap number while acquiring players from rivals could also prove costly.
The longer a player is at a club the lower his points ranking will be."

"Under the new points system, the highest valued players will be internationals.
The points number will dwindle all the way down to zero for homegrown players.
Points will be weighted for international and State players, including at four-day, one-day and Twenty 20 level, while the amount of First Grade matches a player has under his belt will also be considered, with categories ranging from yet to debut to 1-20, 21-49 and 50 plus games."

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/sa ... 1720583983

Sounds ******* complicated!

[Aerie]

West Torrens have signed Jake Fraser-McGurk, via Vic, via Redbacks, via Kensington and Seamus Keogh via country Vic, via Port Adelaide, via Redbacks rookie. Will need to recruit a maths guru for selections Thursday nights.

[Shark_Hunter]

West Torrens have signed Jake Fraser-McGurk, via Vic, via Redbacks, via Kensington and Seamus Keogh via country Vic, via Port Adelaide, via Redbacks rookie. Will need to recruit a maths guru for selections Thursday nights.

Adelaide Footy League has the points built into PlayHQ I believe, if all points are established at the start of the season it shouldn't be too bad if SACA do the same. I heard that only 2 clubs in 2-3 rounds all season last year would have been over the points, so for this year at least it should be pretty easy to stay under with a bit of planning. If the allowed points start reducing in future seasons it might get harder.

[Aerie]

It's strange they've introduced the points system. They've gone to the trouble of creating two divisions to strengthen the competition, which I think is a good idea. South Australia is 1/6th of the First Class teams in this country, but 1/15th the population, so naturally there are a number of players from other states who see an opportunity to pursue a first class career here in SA. Plus there is the Lehmann academy.

If they really wanted to give more locals a go, wouldn't they have more teams in 1st division?

Or did they see Port Adelaide win a premiership on the back of good recruiting and make something up?

Why put blockages in place to get the absolute best players to come and play in the Premier competition? If locals score runs and take wickets, they'll naturally climb the grades and be better for it when they reach 1st class level.

What is the actual point of doing this?