Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

Postby OKC! » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:27 pm

no_remorse28 wrote:
OKC! wrote:Mad Monday must be in full swing... very quiet on here.

I heard you had the most amazing of run outs yesterday

Someone is talking it up then. Only the length of the pitch, wouldn't call it amazing. . Still good way to start the innings though.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

Postby no_remorse28 » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:29 pm

OKC! wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:
OKC! wrote:Mad Monday must be in full swing... very quiet on here.

I heard you had the most amazing of run outs yesterday

Someone is talking it up then. Only the length of the pitch, wouldn't call it amazing. . Still good way to start the innings though.

also hear LordRocco asked Doolan to lick his boots and then paraded around them with the trophy (slight chance that's exaggerated or completely made up even)
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

Postby Wizard of Oz » Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:14 pm

OKC! wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:
OKC! wrote:Mad Monday must be in full swing... very quiet on here.

I heard you had the most amazing of run outs yesterday

Someone is talking it up then. Only the length of the pitch, wouldn't call it amazing. . Still good way to start the innings though.


Learnt very early not to take on OKC....
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

Postby Wizard of Oz » Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:14 pm

no_remorse28 wrote:
OKC! wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:
OKC! wrote:Mad Monday must be in full swing... very quiet on here.

I heard you had the most amazing of run outs yesterday

Someone is talking it up then. Only the length of the pitch, wouldn't call it amazing. . Still good way to start the innings though.

also hear LordRocco asked Doolan to lick his boots and then paraded around them with the trophy (slight chance that's exaggerated or completely made up even)


This I do believe :lol:
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

Postby lordrocco18 » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:25 pm

no_remorse28 wrote:
OKC! wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:
OKC! wrote:Mad Monday must be in full swing... very quiet on here.

I heard you had the most amazing of run outs yesterday

Someone is talking it up then. Only the length of the pitch, wouldn't call it amazing. . Still good way to start the innings though.

also hear LordRocco asked Doolan to lick his boots and then paraded around them with the trophy (slight chance that's exaggerated or completely made up even)

don't talk total and utter smack.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

Postby OKC! » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:30 am

Wizard of Oz wrote:
OKC! wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:
OKC! wrote:Mad Monday must be in full swing... very quiet on here.

I heard you had the most amazing of run outs yesterday

Someone is talking it up then. Only the length of the pitch, wouldn't call it amazing. . Still good way to start the innings though.


Learnt very early not to take on OKC....


I don't think I have ever run you out?? Have I??
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

Postby Wizard of Oz » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:04 pm

No, but saw the arm ;)
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

Postby heater31 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:35 pm

Rumour doing the rounds that the ATCA may return to the previous format of 12 teams per division next year. Too many clubs lost revenue from not playing regular cricket this year.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

Postby EldersUniSA » Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:43 am

heater31 wrote:Rumour doing the rounds that the ATCA may return to the previous format of 12 teams per division next year. Too many clubs lost revenue from not playing regular cricket this year.


Have we had less cricket? There were less rain/heat outs this season.

And would you change after one season anyway, surely you would need a few seasons to see any trend.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

Postby rod_rooster » Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:49 am

heater31 wrote:Rumour doing the rounds that the ATCA may return to the previous format of 12 teams per division next year. Too many clubs lost revenue from not playing regular cricket this year.


Less focus on T20 and more proper cricket? I hope so but can't see it happening....
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

Postby heater31 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:18 am

EldersUniSA wrote:
heater31 wrote:Rumour doing the rounds that the ATCA may return to the previous format of 12 teams per division next year. Too many clubs lost revenue from not playing regular cricket this year.


Have we had less cricket? There were less rain/heat outs this season.

And would you change after one season anyway, surely you would need a few seasons to see any trend.


Depending on what grade you played. If you were a low grade for a bigger club you would have finished this season feeling like you only played half a season. With these players not playing every week you couldn't keep charging the same fees this year for those players as they definitely played less cricket. Not only would bar takings would go down but the money collected from subs would also decrease placing further pressure on the yearly expenses to run a club.

Why change it in the first place without proper consultation? If it wasn't broken then why the change?
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

Postby Trader » Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:40 am

EldersUniSA wrote:
heater31 wrote:Rumour doing the rounds that the ATCA may return to the previous format of 12 teams per division next year. Too many clubs lost revenue from not playing regular cricket this year.


Have we had less cricket? There were less rain/heat outs this season.

And would you change after one season anyway, surely you would need a few seasons to see any trend.


Exactly EUSA,

It's a furphy that less cricket was played this year.

In 2012/13, there were 62 sides in the 6 LO comps, who played in 31 draws (x2 teams / draw = 62 misses, or exactly 1 per side).
So of the 18 weeks scheduled for cricket, we played on average, on 17 of them.

In 2011/12, there was 21 weeks of cricket for the 2-day comp, and 18 in the LO comps.
Once again looking at LO draws (as it is the simplest way to easily determine if there was a heat or washout), of the 60 teams, there were 118 draws (x2 teams per game = 236 missed), by 60 teams = 3.933 days lost per team.

So on average the 2 day comp played 17.0667 days, and the LO comp played 14.0667 days.

Clubs who are blaming the revamped comp on decreased bar takings this season are clutching at straws.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

Postby Brumbies » Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:46 am

EldersUniSA wrote:
heater31 wrote:Rumour doing the rounds that the ATCA may return to the previous format of 12 teams per division next year. Too many clubs lost revenue from not playing regular cricket this year.


Have we had less cricket? There were less rain/heat outs this season.

And would you change after one season anyway, surely you would need a few seasons to see any trend.


We were very fortunate with the weather this year. Least effected season I can remember playing.

I wouldn't of changed the program in the first place, but I can't see ATCA changing back any time soon.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

Postby heater31 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:53 am

Bar takings are only a small amount of the issue. What about the reduced revenue for clubs that have 3 or more senior 2 day teams. Doubt their outgoing costs would have reduced but the incoming money certainly would have.

Bar takings probably only dropped slightly may have been offset by a larger crowd.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

Postby Brumbies » Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:58 am

heater31 wrote:Depending on what grade you played. If you were a low grade for a bigger club you would have finished this season feeling like you only played half a season. With these players not playing every week you couldn't keep charging the same fees this year for those players as they definitely played less cricket. Not only would bar takings would go down but the money collected from subs would also decrease placing further pressure on the yearly expenses to run a club.

Why change it in the first place without proper consultation? If it wasn't broken then why the change?


At our club we didn't get a reduction in subs this season and we don't recieve any of the bar takings.

When you include less money spent on balls and umpires due to less matches been played our club probably benefited financially from the new format!
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

Postby heater31 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:02 am

Brumbies wrote:
heater31 wrote:Depending on what grade you played. If you were a low grade for a bigger club you would have finished this season feeling like you only played half a season. With these players not playing every week you couldn't keep charging the same fees this year for those players as they definitely played less cricket. Not only would bar takings would go down but the money collected from subs would also decrease placing further pressure on the yearly expenses to run a club.

Why change it in the first place without proper consultation? If it wasn't broken then why the change?


At our club we didn't get a reduction in subs this season and we don't recieve any of the bar takings.

When you include less money spent on balls and umpires due to less matches been played our club probably benefited financially from the new format!


You must have been the only club then.....

Most club representatives at the presentation night last week had issues with the format this year.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

Postby Trader » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:07 am

heater31 wrote:
Brumbies wrote:
heater31 wrote:Depending on what grade you played. If you were a low grade for a bigger club you would have finished this season feeling like you only played half a season. With these players not playing every week you couldn't keep charging the same fees this year for those players as they definitely played less cricket. Not only would bar takings would go down but the money collected from subs would also decrease placing further pressure on the yearly expenses to run a club.

Why change it in the first place without proper consultation? If it wasn't broken then why the change?


At our club we didn't get a reduction in subs this season and we don't recieve any of the bar takings.

When you include less money spent on balls and umpires due to less matches been played our club probably benefited financially from the new format!


You must have been the only club then.....

Most club representatives at the presentation night last week had issues with the format this year.


Make that two then, I'm a different club to Brumbies and our subs didn't go down either.

Savings on balls, umpires, ground staff, etc = Minimal difference either way between the two formats.

Instead of complaining about the format, perhaps clubs should stop paying underperforming players so much?
Or how about they put their time and effort into hosting a few fundraising events. Not that hard really.

Any club with a bar / decent clubrooms should be able to make a killing.

I heard from a goodwood bloke a couple of weeks ago that they only have 1 social function a year. Surely that can't be right?
With free room hire any social event is basically printing money. Heck, the event itself doesn't even have to make money when you consider the profit they could pull over the bar just by having people attend.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

Postby Brumbies » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:08 am

heater31 wrote:
Brumbies wrote:
heater31 wrote:Depending on what grade you played. If you were a low grade for a bigger club you would have finished this season feeling like you only played half a season. With these players not playing every week you couldn't keep charging the same fees this year for those players as they definitely played less cricket. Not only would bar takings would go down but the money collected from subs would also decrease placing further pressure on the yearly expenses to run a club.

Why change it in the first place without proper consultation? If it wasn't broken then why the change?


At our club we didn't get a reduction in subs this season and we don't recieve any of the bar takings.

When you include less money spent on balls and umpires due to less matches been played our club probably benefited financially from the new format!


You must have been the only club then.....

Most club representatives at the presentation night last week had issues with the format this year.


Don't get me wrong, I don't think anyone at Pooraka likes the 9 round format.
Just that we probably didn't lose any money because of it.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

Postby heater31 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:22 am

Trader wrote:
I heard from a goodwood bloke a couple of weeks ago that they only have 1 social function a year. Surely that can't be right?
With free room hire any social event is basically printing money. Heck, the event itself doesn't even have to make money when you consider the profit they could pull over the bar just by having people attend.


That's why you didn't have any rain offs this year. Goodwood didn't organise any social functions during the season.... ;)
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

Postby OKC! » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:45 pm

Brumbies wrote:
heater31 wrote:
Brumbies wrote:
heater31 wrote:Depending on what grade you played. If you were a low grade for a bigger club you would have finished this season feeling like you only played half a season. With these players not playing every week you couldn't keep charging the same fees this year for those players as they definitely played less cricket. Not only would bar takings would go down but the money collected from subs would also decrease placing further pressure on the yearly expenses to run a club.

Why change it in the first place without proper consultation? If it wasn't broken then why the change?


At our club we didn't get a reduction in subs this season and we don't recieve any of the bar takings.

When you include less money spent on balls and umpires due to less matches been played our club probably benefited financially from the new format!


You must have been the only club then.....

Most club representatives at the presentation night last week had issues with the format this year.


Don't get me wrong, I don't think anyone at Pooraka likes the 9 round format.
Just that we probably didn't lose any money because of it.


I didn't mind it.
Better to play every team once in the 2 day format, rather than a dodgy 1 day game at the beginning of the season.
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