Barossa & Light Cricket 2013/14.

[BoundaryRider84]

Association has called off all Saturday's games

Interesting that the predicted forecast for Sunday is 41. Haven't cancelled the one day final, yet but surely if it stays like this, they must! It would be a good game but surely with set rules in place and it being stupidly hot, common sense will prevail. Or does Ango have the final say in everything Spud ????

[Jim05]

Association has called off all Saturday's games

Interesting that the predicted forecast for Sunday is 41. Haven't cancelled the one day final, yet but surely if it stays like this, they must! It would be a good game but surely with set rules in place and it being stupidly hot, common sense will prevail. Or does Ango have the final say in everything Spud ????

Sorry but thats crap, nothing to do with Ango
The association made the call to cancel Saturday's fixtures and will make the decision today or tomorrow in regards to Sunday and the correct decision will be made, even as late as this morning some forecasts for Sunday are 38

[TimmiesChin]

Association has called off all Saturday's games

Interesting that the predicted forecast for Sunday is 41. Haven't cancelled the one day final, yet but surely if it stays like this, they must! It would be a good game but surely with set rules in place and it being stupidly hot, common sense will prevail. Or does Ango have the final say in everything Spud ????

Sorry but thats crap, nothing to do with Ango
The association made the call to cancel Saturday's fixtures and will make the decision today or tomorrow in regards to Sunday and the correct decision will be made, even as late as this morning some forecasts for Sunday are 38

Can't help but agree. If anything, the association has deviated from default process by letting clubs know early about Saturday... but I for one applaud the decision, its smart, and the advantages the association cite by coming out early are all valid. It additionally allows clubs to decide if they train tonight based on the decision.

Sundays decision technically is already made as well - based on weather forecasts as provided on Saturday evening. This is the default position, and no-one has indicated this isn't the case.

And as always, if someone has an issue with how the association has handled this, there is an AGM in the second half of the year... put up or shut up.

[bennymacca]

I do agree with waiting an extra day to call off the Sunday game, but I have lizbeff forecast as 43 for Sunday

[daysofourlives]

Association has called off all Saturday's games

Interesting that the predicted forecast for Sunday is 41. Haven't cancelled the one day final, yet but surely if it stays like this, they must! It would be a good game but surely with set rules in place and it being stupidly hot, common sense will prevail. Or does Ango have the final say in everything Spud ????

Sorry but thats crap, nothing to do with Ango
The association made the call to cancel Saturday's fixtures and will make the decision today or tomorrow in regards to Sunday and the correct decision will be made, even as late as this morning some forecasts for Sunday are 38

Can't help but agree. If anything, the association has deviated from default process by letting clubs know early about Saturday... but I for one applaud the decision, its smart, and the advantages the association cite by coming out early are all valid. It additionally allows clubs to decide if they train tonight based on the decision.

Sundays decision technically is already made as well - based on weather forecasts as provided on Saturday evening. This is the default position, and no-one has indicated this isn't the case.

And as always, if someone has an issue with how the association has handled this, there is an AGM in the second half of the year... put up or shut up.

Well said Timmie.
Kapunda have said they only need to start prepping the pitch for Sunday on Friday afternoon/evening given that they now have all day staurday available to them as well. So the decision on Sunday will be made at sometime on Friday . That decision could be to call it off or let the weather forecast on Saturday night decide.

[BoundaryRider84]

So Kocho, because of the bushfires we allowed you to postpone our game, could have easily said no and made you guys forfeit. Now the date doesn't suit is due to a wedding yet we may have to forfeit because of lack of numbers. Tell me that isn't Ango having an agenda mate.

[UNDERthePACK]

So Kocho, because of the bushfires we allowed you to postpone our game, could have easily said no and made you guys forfeit. Now the date doesn't suit is due to a wedding yet we may have to forfeit because of lack of numbers. Tell me that isn't Ango having an agenda mate.

Mate difference is that the Angaston Oval was being used as a Safe Area for all the people affected by the fires. If that doesn't take precedence over a game of cricket then pull your f*%cking head in dickhead. That had nothing to do with the Cricket Club but the community.

ACC were happy to accomodate Freeling's needs to start early in the A-grade due to them having to head off to Pt Augusta, we could have easily said no too but we understood the need and safety aspects of those guys leaving as early as possible on the Saturday night.....

By the way you had no choice in the matter whether the game of cricket was played on that day, the execs made the call that any club that was affected in any way could re-schedule the game, which a date has now been enforced by the President of the Association (who is from Nuri not Angaston)

[daysofourlives]

So Kocho, because of the bushfires we allowed you to postpone our game, could have easily said no and made you guys forfeit. Now the date doesn't suit is due to a wedding yet we may have to forfeit because of lack of numbers. Tell me that isn't Ango having an agenda mate.

No the association allowed us to postpone our game, had nothing to do with you. Just the same as it allowed Truro to postpone their game with Nuri. Its not all about you!!
I suspect your lack of numbers might have more to do with your clubs selection choices post the postponement and if thats the case it wouldnt matter what weekend it is played on. H Moss, J Wright and R McDonald normally play 4s do they?

[BoundaryRider84]

So Kocho, because of the bushfires we allowed you to postpone our game, could have easily said no and made you guys forfeit. Now the date doesn't suit is due to a wedding yet we may have to forfeit because of lack of numbers. Tell me that isn't Ango having an agenda mate.

No the association allowed us to postpone our game, had nothing to do with you. Just the same as it allowed Truro to postpone their game with Nuri. Its not all about you!!
I suspect your lack of numbers might have more to do with your clubs selection choices post the postponement and if thats the case it wouldnt matter what weekend it is played on. H Moss, J Wright and R McDonald normally play 4s do they?

WEDDING can you not read. They only played because the 4's were going to forfeit. Better one team plays than two teams not playing. What you reckon ass?????

[daysofourlives]

Association has called off all Saturday's games

Interesting that the predicted forecast for Sunday is 41. Haven't cancelled the one day final, yet but surely if it stays like this, they must! It would be a good game but surely with set rules in place and it being stupidly hot, common sense will prevail. Or does Ango have the final say in everything Spud ????

Ango has decided they will move the game from Kapunda to Ango to enable the game to go ahead in the cool of the night under lights. Looking at a 5pm start. There will be a small cover charge for non Ango members (yes that includes Freeling players) of $5 to cover electricity.
The toss has already been done, surprisingly you lost, Freeling will be bowling 1st, we dont want to bowl in the heat.
This is the best outcome for EVERYONE involved. Common sense prevails!!

[BoundaryRider84]

Association has called off all Saturday's games

Interesting that the predicted forecast for Sunday is 41. Haven't cancelled the one day final, yet but surely if it stays like this, they must! It would be a good game but surely with set rules in place and it being stupidly hot, common sense will prevail. Or does Ango have the final say in everything Spud ????

Ango has decided they will move the game from Kapunda to Ango to enable the game to go ahead in the cool of the night under lights. Looking at a 5pm start. There will be a small cover charge for non Ango members (yes that includes Freeling players) of $5 to cover electricity.
The toss has already been done, surprisingly you lost, Freeling will be bowling 1st, we dont want to bowl in the heat.
This is the best outcome for EVERYONE involved. Common sense prevails!!

Toss has already been done, interesting that Ango are controlling the association by you Days. Sure you just haven't been tossing off ;-)

[bennymacca]

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I suspect your lack of numbers might have more to do with your clubs selection choices post the postponement and if thats the case it wouldnt matter what weekend it is played on. H Moss, J Wright and R McDonald normally play 4s do they?

Surely players playing a grade higher shouldn't matter? Understand people picked for A grade not being able to play, but surely people coming up from the 4s shouldn't be an issue.

And as boundary rider said, surely having a few A2s go down and play is better than having the team forfeit like they did again last week.

If those three players, all regular A2 are unable to play, it is an absolute farce. Can't think of a single logical argument that wouldn't let them play, especially if they play in the 2s again on the Saturday

[daysofourlives]

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I suspect your lack of numbers might have more to do with your clubs selection choices post the postponement and if thats the case it wouldnt matter what weekend it is played on. H Moss, J Wright and R McDonald normally play 4s do they?

Surely players playing a grade higher shouldn't matter? Understand people picked for A grade not being able to play, but surely people coming up from the 4s shouldn't be an issue.

And as boundary rider said, surely having a few A2s go down and play is better than having the team forfeit like they did again last week.

If those three players, all regular A2 are unable to play, it is an absolute farce. Can't think of a single logical argument that wouldn't let them play, especially if they play in the 2s again on the Saturday

Just the rules

[BoundaryRider84]

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I suspect your lack of numbers might have more to do with your clubs selection choices post the postponement and if thats the case it wouldnt matter what weekend it is played on. H Moss, J Wright and R McDonald normally play 4s do they?

Surely players playing a grade higher shouldn't matter? Understand people picked for A grade not being able to play, but surely people coming up from the 4s shouldn't be an issue.

And as boundary rider said, surely having a few A2s go down and play is better than having the team forfeit like they did again last week.

If those three players, all regular A2 are unable to play, it is an absolute farce. Can't think of a single logical argument that wouldn't let them play, especially if they play in the 2s again on the Saturday

Just the rules

That you make and change when it suits you and however your playing for at the time

[daysofourlives]

Yep thats exactly how it works.

You really are quite the simpleton arnt you.

*whoever

[bennymacca]

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I suspect your lack of numbers might have more to do with your clubs selection choices post the postponement and if thats the case it wouldnt matter what weekend it is played on. H Moss, J Wright and R McDonald normally play 4s do they?

Surely players playing a grade higher shouldn't matter? Understand people picked for A grade not being able to play, but surely people coming up from the 4s shouldn't be an issue.

And as boundary rider said, surely having a few A2s go down and play is better than having the team forfeit like they did again last week.

If those three players, all regular A2 are unable to play, it is an absolute farce. Can't think of a single logical argument that wouldn't let them play, especially if they play in the 2s again on the Saturday

Just the rules

Why do/should the rules preclude a player playing from a lower grade?

You didn't answer the question at all, aside from being a dick about it. Also it's pretty obvious that they are regular A2 players so you enforcing that rule would just be because you are scared of getting rolled again.

[daysofourlives]

They dont preclude a player from playing a lower grade, they just preclude you from playing in more than one grade in the same series of matches.

[jakovasaurus]

But there was no A2s game in that series of matches due it being postponed, so wouldn't it then be the series of matches to be played the round of Feb 8th?

[TimmiesChin]

Why do/should the rules preclude a player playing from a lower grade?

You didn't answer the question at all, aside from being a dick about it. Also it's pretty obvious that they are regular A2 players so you enforcing that rule would just be because you are scared of getting rolled again.

I just worked out what you're complaining about.

Lets assume for a second the A2 game in question had been delayed to the following day (Sunday). Would you then agree that no player playing in that game could have also played the day before in A1 or A4 sides ? Certainly many years ago when the turf pitches were getting laid, a lot of our A1 games were held on Sundays, and we were not permitted to play other grades in the same round.
If you agree both of the above are valid assertions, then its logical to understand that players cannot play in multiple grades in the same round (player subs excluded), and to be honest, any fair minded person would understand why playing a player in two grades in the same round isn't permitted.
If your club threw a few of your better A2's in the A4s for that weekend, then they did so with a lack of forethought. That being said, if the club was under the assumption that the A2 game had been abandoned (points split) rather than delayed, then they would have a case.

[PS - I am not an Angaston player, fan, or anything else, in fact I can think of nothing better than knocking them off]

[TimmiesChin]

But there was no A2s game in that series of matches due it being postponed, so wouldn't it then be the series of matches to be played the round of Feb 8th?

The schedule on mycricket says otherwise .... clearly:

http://mycricket.cricket.com.au/common/ ... adeid=1850

Take a look at round 10.

That being said, with hindsight, perhaps the preferred option at the time was to play the games the following day at safe ovals, or to declare them draws so this problem didn't occur. Its certainly not the first time a game would have been declared a draw due to a fire.