Adelaide Hills Cricket (Hills, A&EH, TV)

[Banker]

D Grade-
Mylor 0/380 (Phil Westley 222*, A Porter 123*) d Aldgate




HCA Record?

[mal]

Controversy at Strathalbyn today in the A+EHCA 'A' Grade match Between Strath and Langhorne Creek.
After a Remarkable 1st days play last week when the the Creeks got bowled out for 82 and then Ripped out Strath for 81, things got a Bit more Remarkable on the 2nd days play.
Resuming their 2nd inngs at 0/6, the Creeks folded again to be all out for about 65 ? odd leaving Strath the small total of 67 ? odd to win Outright. With No Problems with the turf Pitch the task should not have been a Problem But Strath were soon in Big Trouble When Creek Captain Ben Warren getting back to his best form with the ball after shoulder trouble for the last season or two Ripped out the 1st 5 Batsmen cheaply and looked as if he was on his way to bowling the Creeks to a Remarkable Victory BUT Not only did have have to contend with the Oppositions Batsmen, He was also having a Battle with a 1st year Umpire (No Name will be revealed) who was obsessed with reminding Ben about a Rule about Bowlers running on the pitch in the danger zone.
Having never had a Problem in 10 years of senior cricket with law with any umpire, he then complied with the rookie umpires request to get off quicker But it wasn't enough and the umpire told ben to bowl wide on the crease to avoid the danger area. Having made the effort to satisfy the umpires request, he wasn't then about to be told where on the crease he had to bowl and carried on mindful of avoiding the imaginary danger area but the umpire had had enough and has now made a Name for himself by Shocking not only Ben but also the Strath Players by BANNING him from Bowling for the rest of the Innings. Strath then went on to knock off the remaining runs with 7 wkts down and win outright in a Remarkable match in more ways than one.

JJ s' Opinion.
Have Never seen a Bowler evicted for Running on the pitch in 30 years of playing.
I assume it may have happened in 1st class cricket in this time but cant recall an example.
The Rule is there to Basically protect damage to Pitches in 3, 4 or 5 day matches not 70 overs a day country cricket matches.
Not sure of this umpires playing experience But i think Rookie umpires should be concentrating on the Basics to start with before becoming another Darrel Hair (Even tho i did agree with his ruling against Pakistan in the Test Forfeit against England).
Had this Umpire a few weeks ago and he insisted that a ball that hit the fence on the full was a 4 and NOT a 6 despite both sides players telling him he was wrong. As i said, Get the basic Rules right 1st.
Yes, We NEED umpires but now that most Associations are Paying quite Reasonable money for them, are their some doing it now for the money and therefore we are getting some that ar'nt doing it for the right reasons and Havent had the playing experience to have the feel for the Game which is AS important as knowing the Rules.

After each game is there an umpires report filled out ?
I have been in a controversy in a final once with an incompetent rookie umpire, he
fired out several batsman LBW to balls pitched outside off stump.
I was the non striker and witnessed these decisions.
The Creeks are fortunate it was a home and away game and have a second chance.

As for running on the pitch
Why has this particular umpire been the only one to ping Benny ?
Why didnt the other umpires in previous games ?

One thing for sure get the matter sorted out with the association, as you wont want
a repeat of this in a finals game later in the year.

[Dutchy]

take it up with the Umpires Director JJ, not good enough

As for Aldgate Pump Hotel C grade side = new Stanley Bridge

One of there guys while umpiring was verbally abusing a teenager of ours threatening physical violence....FFS enough is enough, why the HCA allows one off teams (they arent even a club) I have no idea....

Again when the game was tight at the end a full toss at the roll of the batsmens pad got called a no ball from square leg for being above the waist, even the batsmen was laughing....

We want kids playing in the HCA and letting teams like this play is a disgrace, especially when all their players are 35+ and just foul mouth opposition and particilarly kids...

[Tex]

After each game is there an umpires report filled out ?
I have been in a controversy in a final once with an incompetent rookie umpire, he
fired out several batsman LBW to balls pitched outside off stump.
I was the non striker and witnessed these decisions.
The Creeks are fortunate it was a home and away game and have a second chance.
[/quote]

The ball CAN pitch outside offstump - but must hit batsman IN LINE with stumps.

We had an umpire in a semi a number of years back - who just may have gone on to be president of the Assoc. who allegedly said to the independent club square leg umpire that.... "anything close to a no ball and I'm gunna call it".. One opening bowler bowled 28 no balls, the other (who hadn't bowled one in the season until then) bowled 9!!!
In our run chase on the Sunday it literally bucketed rain on us making visibility virtually impossible - and yes, certainly for bowlers and fielders too - but as we finished the season in a higher position there was no way he would call a halt to the game.

We have long considered that umpiring your own games is actually a better option than paying someone else to do it.

[jackpot jim]

take it up with the Umpires Director JJ, not good enough

As for Aldgate Pump Hotel C grade side = new Stanley Bridge

One of there guys while umpiring was verbally abusing a teenager of ours threatening physical violence....FFS enough is enough, why the HCA allows one off teams (they arent even a club) I have no idea....

Again when the game was tight at the end a full toss at the roll of the batsmens pad got called a no ball from square leg for being above the waist, even the batsmen was laughing....

We want kids playing in the HCA and letting teams like this play is a disgrace, especially when all their players are 35+ and just foul mouth opposition and particilarly kids...

I Believe the Umpiring Director Will Be Fully briefed both Verbally and in Writing on this Farcical incident and hopefully the Umpire continues umpiring in more of a commonsense manner.

As for NO-Balls for above waist height Full Tosses, Technically only the Bowlers end umpire should be Calling them and NOT the Square Leg umpire.
Also a Very Alarming Trend is Developing with this rule and that is that umpires (Both neutral and Players) are Calling No-Balls on Just about Anything that looks like a Full Toss and some of the calls are a Joke just as you have described Dutchy. The Official interpretation of the waist by SACA umpires is the Bottom of the Ribs of the Batsmen which makes it quite High, A Hell of a Lot higher than the Pads anyway.

[jackpot jim]

[quote="Tex]

The ball CAN pitch outside offstump - but must hit batsman IN LINE with stumps.

Correct


We have long considered that umpiring your own games is actually a better option than paying someone else to do it.[/quote]

Yes, Sometimes that is the case But overall, Players Don'T want the pressure of umpiring themselves and would rather pay extra to have the Neutral Umpire which in most cases do a Reasonable Job.

[pipers]

:shock:

D Grade- Mylor 0/380 (Phil Westley 222*, A Porter 123*) d Aldgate

HCA Record?

Banker - we're claimimg it. Certainly "since records began". Highest partnership in any grade at Mylor definitely, and we believe Westley has posted the highest ever individual score by a Mylor batsmen (can confirm that it is the highest in the last 25 years myself)

btw Porter was 138*

[cheapwickets]

indeed not a bad effort by someone that can barely hold a cricket bat. not sure what our d graders were bowling?!

[pipers]

indeed not a bad effort by someone that can barely hold a cricket bat. not sure what our d graders were bowling?!

They weren't actually all that bad, but perhaps a bit short, which allowed Phil and AP to swing freely on the small ground without fear of being bowled.

What cost you guys was your field placements. Three slips in D-grade!!! This was reduced to two after about 8 overs, and finally one (which is fair enough - where else is Duane Jones going to field?) but only one player patrolling the mid-on to square leg boundary for Westley is just not enough. 75% of his runs come from that area!

[SCIB CC]

Tex,JJ believe me we do not want to go back to umpiring our own games.As bad as some umpires are, its still (most times) a nuetral bad decision.I played back in the 80's when we umpired our own games in A grade, on many occasions fights almost erupted from blatant cheating.
Better education is what we need,and I think the standard (in Hills) has improved a fair bit from the days when Gold Tooth used to go up with the bowler for LBW shouts.

[jackpot jim]

Tex,JJ believe me we do not want to go back to umpiring our own games.As bad as some umpires are, its still (most times) a nuetral bad decision.I played back in the 80's when we umpired our own games in A grade, on many occasions fights almost erupted from blatant cheating.
Better education is what we need,and I think the standard (in Hills) has improved a fair bit from the days when Gold Tooth used to go up with the bowler for LBW shouts.

Yes , I agree we must have Neutral umpires as can you Imagine what would happen if a Batting side Umpire Banned the oppositions GUN Bowler for supposedly Running on the pitch when he was on the Verge Running through their team for SFA as was happening in the abovementioned game.

[Yoda]

well i spoke to ben the other day, he sai yes he might have been in the danger area from time to time. my understanding of the rule is that you must hit in that area a number of time before even getting a warning, also in a 70 over game i think that its to little mant of overs to make a difference. that many overs i dont think one bowler is gong to have that much of an impact on the pitch. maybe playing grade cricket it might need to be looked at harder, i think the umpires do a good job in the hills but they must use a little bit more common sense and some times they should think about the game that is going on at the time, at the same time some of the rules should be used but also used with some common sense for the better of the game.

[the wonder elephant]

scibs win all 4 grades
a grade bowled out happy valley 4 80 zorba 5 fa
b grade bowl the cabbage out for 104
this ones for u banker well bowled mate 4 fa i hear a good come back after a bit of red muff stick in your first 3 but alas scibs super cs win again ds also won no details
all teams in the 4 at christmas break look forward to the buisness end of the season

[Dutchy]

and to celebrate TWE I see the club put on a bouncy castle for the players last night?

dont deny it I saw it with my own eyes....

[the wonder elephant]

very good dutchy you are quite right bouncy castle was an awesome way to celebrate 4 wins to finish the first half of the season nah seriously christmas break up bouncy castle 4 the kids even santa made an appearance (i mean dogga )was a crack up he fell in to the ute he was riding in real funny stuff...by the way dutchy welldone on another ton mate 2 in 2 games i belive where were you against scibs ?

[Cougar]

TV Round 7 Results

Kersbrook 333 and 0/0 dec. def. Woodside 6/98 dec and 160 (R.Mollier 86)

[saintal]

Interesting declaration by Woodside

[redcapper]

Zoran Milosovich took 5 fa, and I guess it was his A Grade debut? I remember him in a C Grade game last year and he just bowled line and length and outswing every ball. 5 fa on debut is almost as good as a ton. Good bloke too.

[Cougar]

Interesting declaration by Woodside

Game set up by Captains MacDonald and Wescombe after Woodside were in dire straights at 5/50 in their first dig. A chase of 235 off 40 Overs on the small Houghton Oval was agreed to by the two TV Association openers. Wescombe was the key, and didn't have a big day making 2 and 0.

[Dutchy]

Thanks TWE, got to get lucky sometimes, big news was Ted Westley hitting his maiden ton...magnificent innings

Couldnt play against SCIB's, look forward to taking them on next year, hopefully our season is back on track now and we can make the finals