Lightning McQueen wrote:Tony Clifton wrote:Cricket must be the only sport in the world where you have to keep playing after you've lost!
And orienteering.
FFS
by Dogwatcher » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:31 am
Lightning McQueen wrote:Tony Clifton wrote:Cricket must be the only sport in the world where you have to keep playing after you've lost!
And orienteering.
by norm11 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:38 pm
Lightning McQueen wrote:daysofourlives wrote:interested onlooker wrote:Maybe the umpire needs to be reminded it’s about the players and not him. 22 blokes miss out on playing our great game due to his poor attitude.
Exactly, the same umpire doesnt want to umpire one day games once the team chasing has reached the score. Im always of the belief that games should be played out to the end while the rules allow it. Players pay subs, volunteers put alot of work in to preparing turf pitches, umpires are paid for the day. No one complains when the team batting first doesnt have a crack at setting a target, batting their 40 overs and making say 9/100 yet when the team batting secong gets them in 15 overs some people expect us to walk off the ground instead of batting out the 40 overs we are entitled to. Over the last month ive been subjected to both ends of this stick, its cricket. If the dominat team happens to bat first and posts 300 this is ok but when batting 2nd its not?
I don't mind that, it stops the crap teams losing even more players.
The PDCA introduced the bonus points for reaching the target inside 30,20 or 10 overs to not disadvantage the winning side.
by bennymacca » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:42 pm
Lightning McQueen wrote:daysofourlives wrote:interested onlooker wrote:Maybe the umpire needs to be reminded it’s about the players and not him. 22 blokes miss out on playing our great game due to his poor attitude.
Exactly, the same umpire doesnt want to umpire one day games once the team chasing has reached the score. Im always of the belief that games should be played out to the end while the rules allow it. Players pay subs, volunteers put alot of work in to preparing turf pitches, umpires are paid for the day. No one complains when the team batting first doesnt have a crack at setting a target, batting their 40 overs and making say 9/100 yet when the team batting secong gets them in 15 overs some people expect us to walk off the ground instead of batting out the 40 overs we are entitled to. Over the last month ive been subjected to both ends of this stick, its cricket. If the dominat team happens to bat first and posts 300 this is ok but when batting 2nd its not?
I don't mind that, it stops the crap teams losing even more players.
The PDCA introduced the bonus points for reaching the target inside 30,20 or 10 overs to not disadvantage the winning side.
by Jim05 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:47 pm
bennymacca wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:daysofourlives wrote:interested onlooker wrote:Maybe the umpire needs to be reminded it’s about the players and not him. 22 blokes miss out on playing our great game due to his poor attitude.
Exactly, the same umpire doesnt want to umpire one day games once the team chasing has reached the score. Im always of the belief that games should be played out to the end while the rules allow it. Players pay subs, volunteers put alot of work in to preparing turf pitches, umpires are paid for the day. No one complains when the team batting first doesnt have a crack at setting a target, batting their 40 overs and making say 9/100 yet when the team batting secong gets them in 15 overs some people expect us to walk off the ground instead of batting out the 40 overs we are entitled to. Over the last month ive been subjected to both ends of this stick, its cricket. If the dominat team happens to bat first and posts 300 this is ok but when batting 2nd its not?
I don't mind that, it stops the crap teams losing even more players.
The PDCA introduced the bonus points for reaching the target inside 30,20 or 10 overs to not disadvantage the winning side.
we had this a couple of years ago and for some reason the committee decided to get rid of it. not sure why, i thought it was good for all involved.
by bennymacca » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:52 pm
by The Bedge » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:04 am
A run a ball is probably bit overkill as well - without knowing this comp, how many sides regularly score at 6rpo? Suppose there will never really be a truly fair system for these things.bennymacca wrote:tweaking it to a run a ball would have been fairer imo.
I agree with this.. especially if you're an average side, if you're getting flogged each week and sent into bat so sides can chase bonus points, suddenly you're paying good money for a couple hours cricket and the opposition if you're a really strong side runs the risk of having guys not get to contribute much.bennymacca wrote:The only gain i can see for batting on after the total is to give the lower order a bat, which sometimes doesnt happen if the team is good. but given its a country comp, keeping the lower teams in it should be a consideration too
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:19 am
The Bedge wrote:A run a ball is probably bit overkill as well - without knowing this comp, how many sides regularly score at 6rpo? Suppose there will never really be a truly fair system for these things.bennymacca wrote:tweaking it to a run a ball would have been fairer imo.I agree with this.. especially if you're an average side, if you're getting flogged each week and sent into bat so sides can chase bonus points, suddenly you're paying good money for a couple hours cricket and the opposition if you're a really strong side runs the risk of having guys not get to contribute much.bennymacca wrote:The only gain i can see for batting on after the total is to give the lower order a bat, which sometimes doesnt happen if the team is good. but given its a country comp, keeping the lower teams in it should be a consideration too
My side in PDCA, we have rolled sides for 43, 49, 83 and 114 on occasions this season - we have chased the runs in anywhere from 6-14 overs, usually 1 or 2 down and usually only having needed 3 bowlers, so I've got a middle order who haven't batted/bowled since start of November and of the 9 games played this season, I've only got 3 players who have batted 5 times or more.
Downside with playing on though is the obvious lack of interest from opposition sides who has just got pumped.
by The Bedge » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:39 am
Lightning McQueen wrote:Swap them around a bit when you're chasing bugger all..............................and don't be so good.
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:46 am
The Bedge wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:Swap them around a bit when you're chasing bugger all..............................and don't be so good.
I have haha, that's why so many haven't batted much because the low chases mean only 3 or 4 bat each week, I move it around and means they prob get 1 bat a month lol
and I've used 22 bowlers haha - I now have a new ball rotation policy lol, everyone gets a crack
by The Bedge » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:01 am
Lightning McQueen wrote:Hopefully you guys go up next season where the standard isn't too bad, there's 3 teams in your grade capable of holding their own in Grade 2.
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:16 am
The Bedge wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:Hopefully you guys go up next season where the standard isn't too bad, there's 3 teams in your grade capable of holding their own in Grade 2.
I'm playing Grade 5 this year lol
by bennymacca » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:35 am
The Bedge wrote:A run a ball is probably bit overkill as well - without knowing this comp, how many sides regularly score at 6rpo? Suppose there will never really be a truly fair system for these things.
The Bedge wrote:I agree with this.. especially if you're an average side, if you're getting flogged each week and sent into bat so sides can chase bonus points, suddenly you're paying good money for a couple hours cricket and the opposition if you're a really strong side runs the risk of having guys not get to contribute much.
The Bedge wrote:My side in PDCA, we have rolled sides for 43, 49, 83 and 114 on occasions this season - we have chased the runs in anywhere from 6-14 overs, usually 1 or 2 down and usually only having needed 3 bowlers, so I've got a middle order who haven't batted/bowled since start of November and of the 9 games played this season, I've only got 3 players who have batted 5 times or more.
Downside with playing on though is the obvious lack of interest from opposition sides who has just got pumped.
by happyhawk » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:45 am
by whufc » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:05 pm
by daysofourlives » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:31 pm
whufc wrote:Couldn't think of anything worse in 35 degree weather than having to stay out in the field when your team has already been smashed
by Tony Clifton » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:38 pm
daysofourlives wrote:whufc wrote:Couldn't think of anything worse in 35 degree weather than having to stay out in the field when your team has already been smashed
Bat better, were here here to play cricket, if you dont want to play dont put your hand up at selection
by bennymacca » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:06 pm
daysofourlives wrote:whufc wrote:Couldn't think of anything worse in 35 degree weather than having to stay out in the field when your team has already been smashed
Bat better, were here here to play cricket, if you dont want to play dont put your hand up at selection
by daysofourlives » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:04 pm
bennymacca wrote:daysofourlives wrote:whufc wrote:Couldn't think of anything worse in 35 degree weather than having to stay out in the field when your team has already been smashed
Bat better, were here here to play cricket, if you dont want to play dont put your hand up at selection
This is fair enough for A grade - but surely the lower grades is as much about participation. and forcing fill ins to stand out there in the heat just makes them not wanna play.
by whufc » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:35 pm
by whufc » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:50 pm
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