Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2009-10

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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Plumb » Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:21 pm

Bulls forever wrote:
interested observer wrote:
Bulls forever wrote:word is that Paul Allegretto from Kensington and Scott Gilles from TTG vice Kensington will both be fronting for the Rams next season. Both are coming off ordinary seasons with the bat, although you could argue Allegretto was treated harsly by the Browns. I am not sure both will adapt to the difference between Grade cricket to turf, time will tell of course. Heard the figures bandied about for playing and to young men, pretty good drinking money. Have heard both have committed, just need confirmation - anyone??????????????????????????


Dont think so !!! ;)


check your mail io, done deal is what i hear, money talks.



I also hear Scotty Strangio will be wearing a Gepps Cross hat this upcoming season.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Bulls forever » Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:02 pm

Plumb wrote:
Bulls forever wrote:
interested observer wrote:
Bulls forever wrote:word is that Paul Allegretto from Kensington and Scott Gilles from TTG vice Kensington will both be fronting for the Rams next season. Both are coming off ordinary seasons with the bat, although you could argue Allegretto was treated harsly by the Browns. I am not sure both will adapt to the difference between Grade cricket to turf, time will tell of course. Heard the figures bandied about for playing and to young men, pretty good drinking money. Have heard both have committed, just need confirmation - anyone??????????????????????????


Dont think so !!! ;)


check your mail io, done deal is what i hear, money talks.



I also hear Scotty Strangio will be wearing a Gepps Cross hat this upcoming season.


makes sense, his return to grade cricket was somewhat of a flop, had good reason but.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby the star » Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:40 pm

i can confirm that ingle farm cc spoke with allegretto today and his answer was that he is very happy at kensington and wasnt sure where the rumor had started of his departure
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby interested observer » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:54 am

the star wrote:i can confirm that ingle farm cc spoke with allegretto today and his answer was that he is very happy at kensington and wasnt sure where the rumor had started of his departure



Right on the money Star.....
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Bulls forever » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:40 pm

interested observer wrote:
the star wrote:i can confirm that ingle farm cc spoke with allegretto today and his answer was that he is very happy at kensington and wasnt sure where the rumor had started of his departure



Right on the money Star.....


so u r saying that he is quite happy with the treatment he got last year later in the year at kensi, perhaps the person who told me he has signed at g/cross 4 good money is telling fibs, if so so be it, one for the memory banks
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Plumb » Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:40 pm

Is anyone willing to make early predictions for the upcoming season?? Any thoughts on relegated/promoted teams, and how they will go next season??
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby interested observer » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:01 pm

Plumb wrote:Is anyone willing to make early predictions for the upcoming season?? Any thoughts on relegated/promoted teams, and how they will go next season??


I would suggest that both Walkerville and Flinders Park would need to recruit well to be competitive in A1 this season.

Walkerville bat quite well, but bowling would be a bit thin for that grade..
Flinders Park too reliant on JT with bat and in the end, even ball..
Cannot see them being too competitive without recruiting well IMO.

Will be interesting to see the make up of the Pooraka team in A2 this year..
You would think they would be pretty strong if all players from last year play on..
A far better team than what their results showed last season..
Any team with Cubby in it will be competitive..
Will JJ play on ???
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Iron Fist » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:09 pm

interested observer wrote:
Plumb wrote:Is anyone willing to make early predictions for the upcoming season?? Any thoughts on relegated/promoted teams, and how they will go next season??


I would suggest that both Walkerville and Flinders Park would need to recruit well to be competitive in A1 this season.

Walkerville bat quite well, but bowling would be a bit thin for that grade..
Flinders Park too reliant on JT with bat and in the end, even ball..
Cannot see them being too competitive without recruiting well IMO.

Will be interesting to see the make up of the Pooraka team in A2 this year..
You would think they would be pretty strong if all players from last year play on..
A far better team than what their results showed last season..
Any team with Cubby in it will be competitive..
Will JJ play on ???


I was only just going to ask how Flinders park will go.
So you think they will struggle??
who have they got??
get on board the thunder train!!!
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Westsider » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:43 pm

Fisty,

Any chance of a certain DB and DL playing for FP this season? :)
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby interested observer » Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:19 pm

Iron Fist wrote:
interested observer wrote:
Plumb wrote:Is anyone willing to make early predictions for the upcoming season?? Any thoughts on relegated/promoted teams, and how they will go next season??


I would suggest that both Walkerville and Flinders Park would need to recruit well to be competitive in A1 this season.

Walkerville bat quite well, but bowling would be a bit thin for that grade..
Flinders Park too reliant on JT with bat and in the end, even ball..
Cannot see them being too competitive without recruiting well IMO.

Will be interesting to see the make up of the Pooraka team in A2 this year..
You would think they would be pretty strong if all players from last year play on..
A far better team than what their results showed last season..
Any team with Cubby in it will be competitive..
Will JJ play on ???


I was only just going to ask how Flinders park will go.
So you think they will struggle??
who have they got??


Will find it tough with a similar 11 to last season..
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Iron Fist » Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:24 am

Westsider wrote:Fisty,

Any chance of a certain DB and DL playing for FP this season? :)


I dunno who DB is Westsider???
Im guessing he is a left arm spinner who cant bowl??
Where is he playing this season?

DL is a chance to play for Flinders park
Havent played for 2 years, and few mates are out there, so thinking about it, either them or possibly Woody South or Port
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Westsider » Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:19 am

Iron Fist wrote:
Westsider wrote:Fisty,

Any chance of a certain DB and DL playing for FP this season? :)


I dunno who DB is Westsider???
Im guessing he is a left arm spinner who cant bowl??
Where is he playing this season?

DL is a chance to play for Flinders park
Havent played for 2 years, and few mates are out there, so thinking about it, either them or possibly Woody South or Port


Left arm spinner who can't BAT you mean. I have some mates out there too... will have to have a chat me thinks.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby azzaisbest » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:28 pm

FS or Bullsforever, heard today from a reliable source that TTG has pulled back the reins on sounda in regards to the para hills coaching job. Heard he was given the choice of one or the other. Surely TTG was not threatened by sounda taking on the para hills job as well , i viewed it as a good move in the area of strengthening the relationships of local district clubs and ATCA clubs, from my understanding , para hills would have been the ones on the short end of the straw only having him there one night a week with the occasional visit on a sat arvo. Also noticed that on the atca website the announcement that para hills made has been taken down last night , did TTG have anything to do with that ?? thoughts boy
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Plumb » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:17 pm

azzaisbest wrote:FS or Bullsforever, heard today from a reliable source that TTG has pulled back the reins on sounda in regards to the para hills coaching job. Heard he was given the choice of one or the other. Surely TTG was not threatened by sounda taking on the para hills job as well , i viewed it as a good move in the area of strengthening the relationships of local district clubs and ATCA clubs, from my understanding , para hills would have been the ones on the short end of the straw only having him there one night a week with the occasional visit on a sat arvo. Also noticed that on the atca website the announcement that para hills made has been taken down last night , did TTG have anything to do with that ?? thoughts boy


Tend to agree with you on this one azza. A strong relationship between SACA and ATCA clubs would, I believe, benefit both parties, but by some of the posts by the TTG boys, they obviously didn't want to share him. Hypothetically, if Sounda wasnt happy with the ultimatum given to him by TTG, could that sway his decision to stay with the club in the future??
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby heater31 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:48 pm

I'm all for better relationships between SACA and ATCA clubs. it can provide a pool of players for both clubs and in the long run is good for cricket.

from experience after being shafted by my Grade club I was put in touch with a turf club. whilst I only experienced the high grades of this club (didn't go below B grade level after 1 game in the 3rds first up) it is a good standard most A grade sides have former SACA A grade talent hanging around albeit a little aged and they don't give up easily.


but as to sharing Coaches especially head coaches it is a little different I think. Surely a conflict of interest? Maybe Para Hills went about it the wrong way in announcing that it was a head coaching gig and if a more defined role was worked out between all parties maybe a consultant would be the better term?
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Footy Smart » Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:03 am

azzaisbest wrote:FS or Bullsforever, heard today from a reliable source that TTG has pulled back the reins on sounda in regards to the para hills coaching job. Heard he was given the choice of one or the other. Surely TTG was not threatened by sounda taking on the para hills job as well , i viewed it as a good move in the area of strengthening the relationships of local district clubs and ATCA clubs, from my understanding , para hills would have been the ones on the short end of the straw only having him there one night a week with the occasional visit on a sat arvo. Also noticed that on the atca website the announcement that para hills made has been taken down last night , did TTG have anything to do with that ?? thoughts boy



I have no idea re TTG giving sounda an either us or them choice.

What i can say is that impact on TTG would have been too great for him to do both. The new Cricket Director has restructured the club to some extent and this means sounda works not only with the seniors, but juniors also. He will be providing more specialised training to the Junior grades and will assist in the intergation between Snr and Jnr grade.

These changes can only lead to positive outcomes for TTG, however they could not occur if sounda was coaching on a wednesday night at PH's.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Bulls forever » Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:01 pm

Footy Smart wrote:
azzaisbest wrote:FS or Bullsforever, heard today from a reliable source that TTG has pulled back the reins on sounda in regards to the para hills coaching job. Heard he was given the choice of one or the other. Surely TTG was not threatened by sounda taking on the para hills job as well , i viewed it as a good move in the area of strengthening the relationships of local district clubs and ATCA clubs, from my understanding , para hills would have been the ones on the short end of the straw only having him there one night a week with the occasional visit on a sat arvo. Also noticed that on the atca website the announcement that para hills made has been taken down last night , did TTG have anything to do with that ?? thoughts boy



I have no idea re TTG giving sounda an either us or them choice.

What i can say is that impact on TTG would have been too great for him to do both. The new Cricket Director has restructured the club to some extent and this means sounda works not only with the seniors, but juniors also. He will be providing more specialised training to the Junior grades and will assist in the intergation between Snr and Jnr grade.

These changes can only lead to positive outcomes for TTG, however they could not occur if sounda was coaching on a wednesday night at PH's.


I think the thing everyone is missing in all this is the extent of commitment between a grADE club and a Adelaide Turf club is extreme. Good turf players would hold their own in Grade cricket because they wouldn be doing the pre season fitness work, the extra training that is required to play high level grade cricket. Whereas at the turf club, i have heard that training is a lot less stressful shall we say. Some grade players go to turf clubs andn think it is ngoing to be easy, their commitment drops off and all of a suddenn struggle. Class stands out wherever it is, but unfortunately that only belongs to a chosen few and not the majority of gradde or turf players.

Without knowing, it appears as though TTG coach has had his wings clipped, how that was done, that is for the board to know. I suggest as far as players go, won't make any difference, they are blissfully unaware of board issues.

Relationships between grade and turf clubs are important, but as Para Hills is in Prospect zone, cannot see how TTG and Para Hills relationship would build bridges between two clubs. The fact that players from that club nare more likely to go to ND or TTG because of ease of travel seems to ben the key, but that is SACA zoning for you. I think you can live acrossnthe road from Glandore and be in West Torrens zone.

Anyway Sleep back at TTG full time. Any more gossip.
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