Grade Cricket

[The Myth]

Well said Tony. Cricket is now a game for the elitist for than ever. And that's the way that the SACA want it, as has been shown by them targeting the clubs they did when trying to cull a team last year.
You will find in 10 years time that Kensington (not that I'm complaining there), Sturt and possibly Glenelg will be unbeatable in senior cricket. And also Uni as they cherry pick half of the eastern suburbs talent or overflow.

[ferret]

I think you will find that West Beach, Henley Beach, Grange, West Lakes, Lockleys, Fulham Gardens and Fulham are NOT low socio-economic areas so why was West Torrens targetted?

I thought the SACA took into account the numbers of juniors playing cricket in a zone and adjusted zone numbers in each zone to have equivalent cricket playing numbers. I know at one stage Northern Districts had more than double the number of 14 yos than West Torrens had in their zone.

Always thought it would have been better to not bring in Southern Districts and slightly adjust some zones and in particular extentend Glenelg down south along the coast and Sturt be extended down south along the ranges and therefore have two established clubs running the developing south. This would also have eliminated the bye. The only problem with this would be the distance to travel to training.

[heater31]

Like it or not West Torrens were unfortunately dragged into that because they have neighbouring clubs with those very issues.

[Brodlach]

What annoys me is these bigger clubs that have so many kids in ‘academy teams’

Share the talent around

[heater31]

What annoys me is these bigger clubs that gave so many kids in ‘academy teams’

Share the talent around

Problem is that is what Cricket Australia want. Talent identification and develop it from your allocated zone.

[Tony Clifton]

What annoys me is these bigger clubs that gave so many kids in ‘academy teams’

Share the talent around

Agree with that. For instance there must be a way to make sure the best 132 cricketers in the state are running around in the U14 Reds each week.

Zones is an imperfect system. There are always going to be the perenially strong clubs and the perenially weak clubs while zones exist.

[Brodlach]

If a player is not selected in the best say 30 (to fill reds and whites) they should be able to go to any other club.

[heater31]

If a player is not selected in the best say 30 (to fill reds and whites) they should be able to go to any other club.

And they can any kid can join their zone club or neighbouring club that shares a zone border.

[Brodlach]

Ive seen a number of kids trial who don’t make the squad who are as good if not better that could easily play for another club. One kid in particular I remember only didn’t make it because the other leg spinner in the squad was a son of a past player. The kid that missed was far better and now has given cricket away

[Tony Clifton]

Needs to be a more fluid system for trials and excess players being able to find opportunities at other clubs.

Now clubs are almost reluctant to steer players elsewhere, just in a case a player they cut turns out to be better than those they picked. Need to have tjicker skin than that. Judging talent of 11-13 year olds isn't easy. Kids grow/mature at different rates. Plus you can't always see which ones will continue to work hard and improve / which ones will coast and stagnate.

There will always be errors. If a kid misses out at one club but finds a home and succeeds at another club that is a sign of a system the works. A safety net.

[heater31]

Ive seen a number of kids trial who don’t make the squad who are as good if not better that could easily play for another club. One kid in particular I remember only didn’t make it because the other leg spinner in the squad was a son of a past player. The kid that missed was far better and now has given cricket away

That boils down to the politics of the individual club. If too much of that goes on the club will eventually be found out when players leave or refuse to trial at that club.

[Brodlach]

Yep it does but he couldn’t move elsewhere due to the zone he lived it. Most kids don’t want to train for 6 months and not play but some others just want to wear the apparel and say ‘that’s my club’

[Jim05]

Yep it does but he couldn’t move elsewhere due to the zone he lived it. Most kids don’t want to train for 6 months and not play but some others just want to wear the apparel and say ‘that’s my club’

Zones don’t mean too much. We have had plenty of kids go to neighboring clubs over the years instead of the Jets.

[The Myth]

Heater, you throw stones at other clubs but you are forgetting that your club has been irrelevant for the last 10 or so years. Even with this so called great talent at your disposal.
So is it bad coaching? Bad administration? Or bad culture?

[Lightning McQueen]

Do zones exist? Can a rival club enforce a player to commit to a zone?

[Tony Clifton]

Do zones exist? Can a rival club enforce a player to commit to a zone?

Technically yes for players <18yo.

No zones for >18.

Kids can play for their zoned club or a neighbouring club. If they choose to travel further then they need a clearance and clubs are under no obligation to clear them for any reason (though only a few kick up a stink about it).

If a kid has already played for a grade club thrn they need a clearance to go elsewhere. Again, the club is under no obligation to clear them. They can refuse.

Occasionally it goes to arbitration.

[Lightning McQueen]

Do zones exist? Can a rival club enforce a player to commit to a zone?

Technically yes for players <18yo.

No zones for >18.

Kids can play for their zoned club or a neighbouring club. If they choose to travel further then they need a clearance and clubs are under no obligation to clear them for any reason (though only a few kick up a stink about it).

If a kid has already played for a grade club thrn they need a clearance to go elsewhere. Again, the club is under no obligation to clear them. They can refuse.

Occasionally it goes to arbitration.

Thanks mate, facing a possible dilemma.

[The Hound]

Well said Tony. Cricket is now a game for the elitist for than ever. And that's the way that the SACA want it, as has been shown by them targeting the clubs they did when trying to cull a team last year.
You will find in 10 years time that Kensington (not that I'm complaining there), Sturt and possibly Glenelg will be unbeatable in senior cricket. And also Uni as they cherry pick half of the eastern suburbs talent or overflow.

Its not just the eastern suburbs, they are now targeting the south west coastline, and developing them really well, bat 10 and not bowl. Had to keep their promise of playing A Grade cricket

[The Myth]

I have also noted that as I'm sure you are talking about young Edwards? Bowled about 15 overs this year. Good for the kids development.

[Tony Clifton]

Thanks mate, facing a possible dilemma.

Doesn't sound good. Hope all is well.

Does get a bit messy if a player wants to leave a club, especially if that club is struggling. They get a bit defensive/possessive.

Can be delicate situations so I hope things work out for you