Two Day Cricket

[Not Scared]

I'm just interested in some thoughts from around the state on two day cricket.

A lot of associations seem to be playing less and less of it due to lack of numbers, enthusiasm etc., but personally I believe it is the true form of the game and should be maintained at all costs. In fact, I believe that every comp in SA should have at least half of their program taken up with 2 day cricket.

At the elite level, no matter what anyone says, Test Cricket and Shield cricket are still the true forms of the game and most important forms of the game. Despite 20/20's popularity I think it would take a long, long time for that to take over (it is a massive money spinner, however).

In addition to this, when kids from the country go to Adelaide to play there is a lot of 2 day cricket down there (Turf Cricket and District cricket play limited one dayers). The other factor, I believe, is in giving young players a chance to develop with time at the crease, both bowling and batting wise.

I'm interested to hear some opinions.

[smac]

We should be getting as many kids to play cricket as we can - the kids LOVE T20, all associations should offer it to the youngest age groups to increase participation rates.

As kids grow, so should the length of games, but I don't think half is the aim. So long as there is some longer cricket then that's OK. T20, 50/50 and 2 day cricket all have a place in the development of cricketers and cricket.

[on_a_length]

I prefer 2 day cricket any day. Nothing bugs me more than having the amount of overs i can bowl limited.

[leftarmoffie]

I prefer 2 day cricket any day. Nothing bugs me more than having the amount of overs i can bowl limited.

I agree there

[interested observer]

I prefer 2 day cricket any day. Nothing bugs me more than having the amount of overs i can bowl limited.

I agree there

Can't bowl too many at Edinburgh Park

[Not Scared]

Good to hear so far that nobody thinks 2 day cricket should be scrapped totally, because I have heard a few suggest it in my region. smac, I'm with you on the T20. Use it up, but don't replace two dayers with it, replace one dayers. A good format would have about an even amount of games for one dayers/T20, and two dayers, which would mean twice as many days of two day cricket.

[chrissymac7]

Play all one day cricket!!!!

[Lightning McQueen]

We should be getting as many kids to play cricket as we can - the kids LOVE T20, all associations should offer it to the youngest age groups to increase participation rates.

As kids grow, so should the length of games, but I don't think half is the aim. So long as there is some longer cricket then that's OK. T20, 50/50 and 2 day cricket all have a place in the development of cricketers and cricket.

Unless the kids are getting a bat and a bowl every game you have the dreaded "parent" problems.

[Eric_Gilchurch]

Cricket seems to have lost popularity in recent times. The only way we are gonna entice young people back to playing country cricket is bring in more 1 day games! I'm only recently 21 and can certainly relate to the massive amounts of people my age who would rather go to the beach and chase skirt all day on the piss, rather then stand in a field for 70 overs!

I mean, the reason I turn down offers from district clubs is because I'd rather jump off the West Gate bridge then stand in the field for 90 overs (and I love my cricket more then most things)! If my country comp (GSCA) suddenly changed its program to ALL one dayers, i reckon i could pick up my phone right now and pencil in about 6 recruits in 3 minutes!

On the flip side though, maybe a few of the old timers would lose their sh*t and quit!

[Not Scared]

Cricket seems to have lost popularity in recent times. The only way we are gonna entice young people back to playing country cricket is bring in more 1 day games! I'm only recently 21 and can certainly relate to the massive amounts of people my age who would rather go to the beach and chase skirt all day on the piss, rather then stand in a field for 70 overs!

I mean, the reason I turn down offers from district clubs is because I'd rather jump off the West Gate bridge then stand in the field for 90 overs (and I love my cricket more then most things)! If my country comp (GSCA) suddenly changed its program to ALL one dayers, i reckon i could pick up my phone right now and pencil in about 6 recruits in 3 minutes!

On the flip side though, maybe a few of the old timers would lose their sh*t and quit!

If you did that, yeah, you would get a few old timers quitting but I know a few younger people who would be in the same boat. I'm 26 and I reckon I'd give it the flick if it was all one dayers, perhaps go and play with my old team in Adelaide where I'd play two dayers virtually every game.

I know what you mean about young blokes committing if it was one dayers but I think you'd find that those blokes would never be fully committed anyway. A day of one day cricket is a pretty long day. Most places play about 45 overs a side in one-dayers, which if you add the two innings together is actually 10 overs more than a day of two day cricket. Plus, it may mean that those blokes don't get as much of a bat or bowl either, which is a major reason why a lot of people quit.

[Eric_Gilchurch]

Cricket seems to have lost popularity in recent times. The only way we are gonna entice young people back to playing country cricket is bring in more 1 day games! I'm only recently 21 and can certainly relate to the massive amounts of people my age who would rather go to the beach and chase skirt all day on the piss, rather then stand in a field for 70 overs!

I mean, the reason I turn down offers from district clubs is because I'd rather jump off the West Gate bridge then stand in the field for 90 overs (and I love my cricket more then most things)! If my country comp (GSCA) suddenly changed its program to ALL one dayers, i reckon i could pick up my phone right now and pencil in about 6 recruits in 3 minutes!

On the flip side though, maybe a few of the old timers would lose their sh*t and quit!

If you did that, yeah, you would get a few old timers quitting but I know a few younger people who would be in the same boat. I'm 26 and I reckon I'd give it the flick if it was all one dayers, perhaps go and play with my old team in Adelaide where I'd play two dayers virtually every game.

I know what you mean about young blokes committing if it was one dayers but I think you'd find that those blokes would never be fully committed anyway. A day of one day cricket is a pretty long day. Most places play about 45 overs a side in one-dayers, which if you add the two innings together is actually 10 overs more than a day of two day cricket. Plus, it may mean that those blokes don't get as much of a bat or bowl either, which is a major reason why a lot of people quit.

Yep I agree a lot of passionate young cricketers would also be dissappointed if there was a transition like this. I only mention it because in my comp there are several country teams who can't fill an A grade team due to young players having 'something better to do' on a saturday, which is dissapointing, but fair enough. I guess what I neglected to mention is that in country cricket (well my league anyway), it's not massively common to see teams bat out the whole 70 overs (its rare to see a country side that doesn't have a long tail), so you dont have to stand out there for to long!

[smac]

We should be getting as many kids to play cricket as we can - the kids LOVE T20, all associations should offer it to the youngest age groups to increase participation rates.

As kids grow, so should the length of games, but I don't think half is the aim. So long as there is some longer cricket then that's OK. T20, 50/50 and 2 day cricket all have a place in the development of cricketers and cricket.

Unless the kids are getting a bat and a bowl every game you have the dreaded "parent" problems.

Can be arranged in T20, no worries at all. Will see you tonight and we can chat if you like? Barossa (specifically Lyndoch CC) are organising carnivals for this sort of cricket, and they are growing in junior numbers.

[Lightning McQueen]

We should be getting as many kids to play cricket as we can - the kids LOVE T20, all associations should offer it to the youngest age groups to increase participation rates.

As kids grow, so should the length of games, but I don't think half is the aim. So long as there is some longer cricket then that's OK. T20, 50/50 and 2 day cricket all have a place in the development of cricketers and cricket.

Unless the kids are getting a bat and a bowl every game you have the dreaded "parent" problems.

Can be arranged in T20, no worries at all. Will see you tonight and we can chat if you like? Barossa (specifically Lyndoch CC) are organising carnivals for this sort of cricket, and they are growing in junior numbers.

I know where you're coming from, a double-wicket like comp, parents will whinge forever mate. Yeah, you'll get a chance to check out our new clubhouse, it's come up pretty good, unrecognizable, as for the chat, I'll be up for that

[Not Scared]

Cricket seems to have lost popularity in recent times. The only way we are gonna entice young people back to playing country cricket is bring in more 1 day games! I'm only recently 21 and can certainly relate to the massive amounts of people my age who would rather go to the beach and chase skirt all day on the piss, rather then stand in a field for 70 overs!

I mean, the reason I turn down offers from district clubs is because I'd rather jump off the West Gate bridge then stand in the field for 90 overs (and I love my cricket more then most things)! If my country comp (GSCA) suddenly changed its program to ALL one dayers, i reckon i could pick up my phone right now and pencil in about 6 recruits in 3 minutes!

On the flip side though, maybe a few of the old timers would lose their sh*t and quit!

If you did that, yeah, you would get a few old timers quitting but I know a few younger people who would be in the same boat. I'm 26 and I reckon I'd give it the flick if it was all one dayers, perhaps go and play with my old team in Adelaide where I'd play two dayers virtually every game.

I know what you mean about young blokes committing if it was one dayers but I think you'd find that those blokes would never be fully committed anyway. A day of one day cricket is a pretty long day. Most places play about 45 overs a side in one-dayers, which if you add the two innings together is actually 10 overs more than a day of two day cricket. Plus, it may mean that those blokes don't get as much of a bat or bowl either, which is a major reason why a lot of people quit.

Yep I agree a lot of passionate young cricketers would also be dissappointed if there was a transition like this. I only mention it because in my comp there are several country teams who can't fill an A grade team due to young players having 'something better to do' on a saturday, which is dissapointing, but fair enough. I guess what I neglected to mention is that in country cricket (well my league anyway), it's not massively common to see teams bat out the whole 70 overs (its rare to see a country side that doesn't have a long tail), so you dont have to stand out there for to long!

I guess in the Riverland we have had teams that have regularly batted out their 80 overs, and this has exacerbated the problems, especially for some of the weaker teams.

Overall, I reckon the point is to get people who are passionate about cricket to play, and they will play two dayers or one dayers. In my experience, the ones who have something better to do are not going to be swayed by a change in format. At the moment interest in cricket (playing it at least) has dropped in many places, but these things go in cycles and I think the wheel will turn with a generational change. They say the next generation coming through are going to be much more settled and able to commit to things.

[the red baron]

yeh i agree (ns) i would probably go play golf if our comp went to all one dayers. i think some of the reasons people want a change in format is that not all captains pick balanced sides and have 4 or 5 players doing all the batting and all the bowling. i realise everyone is an allrounder to some degree but there are alot of specialist fielders playing each week. in an ideal situation (1-6)batsmen (7 )wicket keeper ( 8-11) bowlers. this is just my opinion but i know of a few people over the years lost to our great game for this reason!!

[Not Scared]

I'm with you there on the captains bit, but it is a lot easier for them to do that in a two day match. People who want it to change to all one dayers think they will get more of a bat or bowl but they are more likely, in effect, to get less. Two day games normally allow for all players to get a bat, and certainly more players to get a bowl.

[FlyingHigh]

As mentioned above, it seems many potential players are put off of two-day cricket because they may have to stand in the field all day, so as an idea from left-field - how about going back to 8-ball overs...

If an association plays 70 x 6 ball overs = 420 balls.
If it changes to 50 x 8 ball overs = 400 balls. Roughly 3 overs less (approx 10-15 mins), and 20 less over-changes, which would take 1-1.5 minutes. So, all up, could save 30-45 minutes off a days play, not dragging the day on so long.
Of course, the potential down side would be less overs to share around amongst the fielding side, so some over restrictions may need to be applied such as two bowlers being able to bowl up to 15 overs each - equivalent of 20 current overs (realise this is not always popular in A-grade compeitions).

[duck-mann]

I have just recently turned 25, I have noticed more recently the large 'generation gap' left by guys my age in 'amatuer' cricket. I play in the PDCA and most teams we play against seem to have 5 or 6 guys in their 30's and the rest of the team is 16-18 year olds. I am a beleiver that things work in cycles and that there will be more interest in cricket from the next generation. Our club has a lot of good quality juniors and they seem to enjoy both 1 day and 2 day forms of the game. I hope for the sake of the purists that the longer forms of the game are kept in all associations. Any slapper can make runs in 20/20... it takes a quality batsman to make 100 in a test!

[norm11]

Keep 2 day cricket. Played a t20 on saturday for points towards the season and it was crap

[trev]

[quote][/quon_a_length wrote:
I prefer 2 day cricket any day. Nothing bugs me more than having the amount of overs i can bowl limitedote]

it might bug you, but nothing pleases your captain more!