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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:09 pm
by dedja
bennymacca wrote:
Dr Phil wrote:
dedja wrote:F 35 JSF issues


who wouldve thought anaircraft costing billions would have any 'issues'. Outrageous.


you obviously know nothing about engineering or building any complex system. obviously there are issues. always going to be.


Correct, 25 years in IT and I haven't learned a thing ... :lol:

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:22 pm
by Q.
Be nice if they sold us the Raptors instead of this junk.

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:26 pm
by tigerpie
Its true that previous governments have saved for this big purchase.

I just hope this government doesnt make the dumb decision to buy these lemons!

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:31 pm
by Dr Phil
Q. wrote:Be nice if they sold us the Raptors instead of this junk.


jsf will be the second best combat aircraft in the world in time...behind the raptor in terms of air supremecy. would love some f-22's but will never happen

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:34 pm
by Q.
Dr Phil wrote:
Q. wrote:Be nice if they sold us the Raptors instead of this junk.


jsf will be the second best combat aircraft in the world in time...behind the raptor in terms of air supremecy. would love some f-22's but will never happen


Third best behind the J-20.

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:40 pm
by tigerpie
A single engined fighter is a serious worry, but i'd rather take that than one made in China.

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:25 am
by Dr Phil
Q. wrote:
Dr Phil wrote:
Q. wrote:Be nice if they sold us the Raptors instead of this junk.


jsf will be the second best combat aircraft in the world in time...behind the raptor in terms of air supremecy. would love some f-22's but will never happen


Third best behind the J-20.


glorified mig-25

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:41 am
by bennymacca
Dr Phil wrote:
Q. wrote:Be nice if they sold us the Raptors instead of this junk.


jsf will be the second best combat aircraft in the world in time...behind the raptor in terms of air supremecy. would love some f-22's but will never happen


It's very very rare that the US sell the very best of anything they have.

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:50 am
by tigerpie
The Yanks are saying that we will get the best 35"s you can get outside of the US.

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:55 am
by bennymacca
tigerpie wrote:The Yanks are saying that we will get the best 35"s you can get outside of the US.


my point was they wont sell the F22

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:07 am
by tigerpie
bennymacca wrote:
tigerpie wrote:The Yanks are saying that we will get the best 35"s you can get outside of the US.


my point was they wont sell the F22

At 412 million each we couldnt afford them anyway.

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:47 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
There will be no new taxes under a government I lead

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:48 pm
by heater31
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:There will be no new taxes under a government I lead


But plenty of Levies.....


All bloody governments say that. Doesn't matter who they are.

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:56 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
heater31 wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:There will be no new taxes under a government I lead


But plenty of Levies.....


All bloody governments say that. Doesn't matter who they are.



quite right heater - they all say it. but any credibility that Abbott had, has now completely disappeared after all we heard in Question Time over the past term of govt was about the Gillard - carbon tax backflip

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:58 pm
by bennymacca
Its a pretty huge backflip. Worse than a carbon tax imo, because that was just an interim measure on the way to an ETS. And there were are environmental reasons for doing it too. I digress, but you are right, all oppositions think they can magically balance the budget until they actually have to govern.

Abbott seems like the sort of guy that still thinks he is in opposition. Every second word out of his mouth is still about partisan politics, instead of just getting on with the job of governing.

Not sure i like what Joe Hockey has been saying lately, particularly by the fact that i might have to work until i am 70, but I also respect that he at least seems to be the one that has set about trying to shape the agenda rather than it being all about just trying to hark back to labor all the time.

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:05 pm
by Q.
The outrage at News Ltd is deafening...

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:06 pm
by Psyber
It is perhaps a bit similar to Paul Keating's "L. A. W... LAW!" promised tax cuts during the 1980s...
Political cynicism on both sides is moving me back towards my old default, "Don't vote it only encourages them." ;)

I sometimes wonder whether there should be no career politicians, but they should be limited to a maximum of two terms.
(With the same superannuation benefits as the general community.)

And it is a world wide issue:

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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:47 pm
by Jimmy_041
Stick the paid parental leave - how can he say that to can it would be a broken election promise when a tax "levy" is not? :shock: The minor parties need to swap it for the carbon tax.
Don't touch pensions and especially armed services entitlements when these ar$eholes are the ones that send them off to war
No increase in the GST - make the State Govts "cut the cloth"
No change to the NDIS - if I have to pay an extra 0.5% I will. It is too important. More important than paid parental leave
Compulsory performance reviews for university lecturers. My daughter had exams and the lecturer went on holidays. (Probably in Canberra marching against something). Most lectures are done online now.
National Service for 19 - 20 year olds. (That'll sort Gen Y+ out plus I didn't want you blokes thinking I'd gone soft)

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:08 pm
by dedja
Turnbull odds on to be PM by the next election ...

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:02 pm
by bennymacca
dedja wrote:Turnbull odds on to be PM by the next election ...


he has been just as bad - continually telling everyone that labor started rolling out the NBN without a cost-benefit analysis...

AND THEN he goes and rolls out his multi-technology-mix (aka malcolm turnbull's mess) without even waiting for the cost benefit analysis he himself commissioned!!!!

i honestly thought it was better than that. it is ridiculous.

Dont evern get my started on christopher pine the smug cnt.

Joe Hockey is the only one that I have been impressed with. Dont agree with his talk about the pension etc, but at least he has been impressive when he has spoken