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Posted: **Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:11 pm**

Dogwatcher wrote:An observation.
The northern suburbs of Adelaide are traditionally an ALP stronghold and will be again in this election (with a bit of a shake-up from Xenophon), because the Libs have done nothing to gain traction in this community.
They have put up barely recognisable candidates and I'm not seeing many candidate posters around the area.
What they've failed to recognise is the north's changing demographic and growing population.
They've done no groundwork here in the years preceding this election and this campaign feels same-old same old in terms of what will happen at the polling booth.
A decent campaign may not have won them a seat at this election, but at the least could have gained some traction out here at the next.
Mark my words, the north has far greater potential for economic and political influence than many would recognise - believe me, the media knows it. Everyone else needs to catch-up.

Interesting adroit observation DW when you look at the Swing against Labor in King, Wright and Taylor (admittedly against SAB in Taylor). Compare this to the seats of Hurtle Vale, Reynell and Kaurna (southern Suburbs based around Noarlunga where there was an average swing to the ALP of 4.5%.
Compare this to the same demographic seats of Elizabeth, Light and King and the swing is under 4% add in Wright and Taylor and the swing to Labour is barely 1.5% in the North (thanks to basically 6% swings in Light and Elizabeth). Average swing against Labour in Wright, King and Taylor over 1.5%, Add in MAwson where the biggest both is Aldinga it is easy to see, that compared to the Southern suburbs, that the ALP has some thinking to do with respect to the Nrthern suburbs as DW implied.

Will these seats change hands in the future, will King might go back but what it shows is that in the future as DW suggested the ALP may have to put some campaign resources into those seats rather than take them for granted and campaign elsewhere.

The Libs may need to do the same in the Hills especially if SAB stay strong too.

Posted: **Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:19 pm**

stan wrote:
Booney wrote:There's been a noticeable shift in people's defence/offence strategies in this thread since last Saturday night.

Been interesting to watch.

As expected though really. A change in government which means the Labour types in here are now the opposition and now on the attack, although will still need to defend for the next few years as the new government will pretty much blame the previous government for everything, I mean we have seen that over the years.

From my point of view I'm looking forward to the Liberals energy plan coming out in more detail, a interconnector to NSW will be useful as the black coal generation out there is typically cheaper on the spot market, however ElectraNet will enjoy the transmissions costs for that. Also will the pumped hydro at Highbury (300MW for 4 hours) still get up, its a valuable generation source I think we need.

Regardless it will be interesting as to what happens going forward, Steve has a reasonable amount of work in front of him, but with the alignment with the Federal government now we could see some interesting things happening in SA. Basically now that SA is not Labour it seems that Malcolm and his mates will want to get SA up and about as quickly as possible before the next state election.

Also I have been pretty harsh on Steve Marshall basically referring him to something like a bumbling goof at best, but his time is now and he can really show us all what Steve is really about. This is his chance to show everyone how good he really can be.

The ALP is not "Labour" - they take the "U" out of it as they would do with our co(u)ntry given unfettered power. .

I must admit that while I enjoy that quip about our "Labor" Party, they can be justified by the pro-ALP population as returning to the word's Latin root from the French spelling form of the word that entered English from France many years ago. Alternatively we could just accuse them of capitulating to American spelling and accepting the US debasement of English spelling and grammar...

Posted: **Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:34 am**

Psyber wrote:
stan wrote:
Booney wrote:There's been a noticeable shift in people's defence/offence strategies in this thread since last Saturday night.

Been interesting to watch.

As expected though really. A change in government which means the Labour types in here are now the opposition and now on the attack, although will still need to defend for the next few years as the new government will pretty much blame the previous government for everything, I mean we have seen that over the years.

From my point of view I'm looking forward to the Liberals energy plan coming out in more detail, a interconnector to NSW will be useful as the black coal generation out there is typically cheaper on the spot market, however ElectraNet will enjoy the transmissions costs for that. Also will the pumped hydro at Highbury (300MW for 4 hours) still get up, its a valuable generation source I think we need.

Regardless it will be interesting as to what happens going forward, Steve has a reasonable amount of work in front of him, but with the alignment with the Federal government now we could see some interesting things happening in SA. Basically now that SA is not Labour it seems that Malcolm and his mates will want to get SA up and about as quickly as possible before the next state election.

Also I have been pretty harsh on Steve Marshall basically referring him to something like a bumbling goof at best, but his time is now and he can really show us all what Steve is really about. This is his chance to show everyone how good he really can be.

The ALP is not "Labour" - they take the "U" out of it as they would do with our co(u)ntry given unfettered power. .

I must admit that while I enjoy that quip about our "Labor" Party, they can be justified by the pro-ALP population as returning to the word's Latin root from the French spelling form of the word that entered English from France many years ago. Alternatively we could just accuse them of capitulating to American spelling and accepting the US debasement of English spelling and grammar...

Thanks mate, lives were saved from that well done.

Posted: **Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:07 pm**

Cory Bernardi press conference about Dennis Hood quitting his party to join the Liberal Party.

Posted: **Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:40 pm**

Gozu wrote:Cory Bernardi press conference about Dennis Hood quitting his party to join the Liberal Party.

Rats leaving the sinking ship.

Posted: **Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:10 am**

Magellan wrote:
Gozu wrote:Cory Bernardi press conference about Dennis Hood quitting his party to join the Liberal Party.

Rats leaving the sinking ship.

Sorry I didnt see his presso what did he asy about Hood defecting?

Posted: **Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:33 am**

stan wrote:
Magellan wrote:
Gozu wrote:Cory Bernardi press conference about Dennis Hood quitting his party to join the Liberal Party.

Rats leaving the sinking ship.
Sorry I didnt see his presso what did he asy about Hood defecting?

From today's InDaily:

https://indaily.com.au/news/politics/2018/03/26/bernardi-defiant-final-state-conservative-joins-libs/

Bernardi today conceded the party’s state election performance “wasn’t all we desired to be”, admitting “I’m sure that accounted for some reflections” by Hood on his future.

“Obviously I’m disappointed [but] everyone is an adult in this business and they can make decisions for themselves, and they account for those decisions themselves,” Bernardi told InDaily.

“In the end I think it’s for Dennis to make that explanation.”

Bernardi, who himself quit the Liberal Party months after his Senate re-election to found the Conservatives, said he believed the party had “provided the resources and assistance and in some cases advice that we thought would be of assistance” to the state team, which also ran 33 lower house candidates after initially flagging as few as 10.

“We didn’t get the outcomes we wanted, but Dennis has made this decision and it’s for him to explain,” Bernardi said.

Hood's explanation was quite vague:

Hood, who has four years left to serve of his eight-year term, told media today his move was “not about self-interest”, pointing out “I’m in a very comfortable position regardless”.

“There were many good aspects to the Conservatives’ policies but if you look at the overlap of the two parties, it’s substantial,” he said.
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However, he added, “we also need to be real about it”.

“The reality is the Australian Conservatives did not perform well at the state election… if you want to stay with something that’s going down that path, pretty soon you’ll find they’ve got no members of parliament and no impact.

“The Australian Conservatives will continue – I just won’t be part of it, that’s all that changed,” he said.

Posted: **Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:04 pm**

That's the thing, Australia is, by and large, a progressive left leaning country. We want public health, public education, public infrastructure ... Social safety nets etc.

Strict conservative politics, especially in regards to non fiscal policies, will never take hold here. It goes against the very fabric of Australian belief systems and culture.

Posted: **Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:26 pm**

morell wrote:That's the thing, Australia is, by and large, a progressive left leaning country. We want public health, public education, public infrastructure ... Social safety nets etc.

Strict conservative politics, especially in regards to non fiscal policies, will never take hold here. It goes against the very fabric of Australian belief systems and culture.

No I would argue we are a centralist country that swings between progression (centre left) - ALP and liberalism - Liberal party (true liberalism in the political mid 18th century definition sense and that advocated by Menzies and Howard) - centre right.

Extremist politics, Socialist and Conservatism only attract the fringes of our populations.

Posted: **Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:05 pm**

By global and historical standards even our right wing crazies are centrists.

Posted: **Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:25 am**

morell wrote:That's the thing, Australia is, by and large, a progressive left leaning country. We want public health, public education, public infrastructure ... Social safety nets etc.

Strict conservative politics, especially in regards to non fiscal policies, will never take hold here. It goes against the very fabric of Australian belief systems and culture.

In general i agree with you, but I would argue our offshore processing centres are pretty right wing

Posted: **Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:15 am**

Marshall has directed all departments to pay all invoices with in 60 days......looks like some public servants are going to busy!

Posted: **Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:33 am**

heater31 wrote:Marshall has directed all departments to pay all invoices with in 60 days......looks like some public servants are going to busy!

Good move from him and an easy win. The amount out standing for 90+ days was a ******* joke.

Pay you bills on time. Bloody hell.

Posted: **Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:50 am**

I wonder if it's possible for any Liberal minister to have one sentence without blaming everything on the previous Labor government.

Posted: **Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:30 am**

MW wrote:I wonder if it's possible for any Liberal minister to have one sentence without blaming everything on the previous Labor government.

How much responsibility do you want them to take for their 12 days in office?

Had a conversation about power where the ALP hasn't screamed "ETSA" (while conveniently overlooking the State Bank that led to the sale)?

Posted: **Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:50 am**

They were elected to fix it, not complain about how it got there when in office. Get on with fixing it ffs.

Posted: **Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:23 am**

MW wrote:They were elected to fix it, not complain about how it got there when in office. Get on with fixing it ffs.

Given the prior government appears to have gone to great lengths to cover up the extent of the Hospitals non-compliance and the overall budget situation you need to at least let the true facts come to light first IMO.

Posted: **Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:44 pm**

Both parties blame the previous govt regardless of who they are.
Libs are currently kicking easy goals with the hospital and SA Health and transparency etc and thats not a bad thing

Posted: **Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:01 pm**

It's also this weird little period where parliament can't sit until the Legislative Council results are declared.

Effectively the new government is inhibited a lot in what it can do until parliament starts sitting.

It's an odd little situation of stasis.

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:27 am**

jo172 wrote:
MW wrote:They were elected to fix it, not complain about how it got there when in office. Get on with fixing it ffs.

Given the prior government appears to have gone to great lengths to cover up the extent of the Hospitals non-compliance and the overall budget situation you need to at least let the true facts come to light first IMO.

It is a waste of capital as in 4 years time if all the public has heard its the other mobs fault, they may get booted

Gone are the good old days where every new government got at least two terms, the voting public blame whoever is in at the time if things go pear shaped

The Libs would be better off keeping mum on stuff until it blows up, then point to the opposition benches, they are simply wasting the blame game opportunity

I just wish Lucas would get off his twitter account and start sacking us public servants, I want a package

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