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[bennymacca]

its not an easy problem to solve, and plagued by self interest given how many politicians have rental properties.

and the other week i was asked whether i would accept a fall in my own house price to make the market more accessible to young people, and I dont think I would. So there is my self interest too.

I still think it is unreasonable to expect 100% of the population to have the means to afford a house. But what that number should be is hard. should only the top 50% of earners be able to afford a house? 80%? 30?

No idea

Would you accept a bigger drop in price because the housing market crashed?

When was the last time that happened in Australia? Genuine question

[Q.]

its not an easy problem to solve, and plagued by self interest given how many politicians have rental properties.

and the other week i was asked whether i would accept a fall in my own house price to make the market more accessible to young people, and I dont think I would. So there is my self interest too.

I still think it is unreasonable to expect 100% of the population to have the means to afford a house. But what that number should be is hard. should only the top 50% of earners be able to afford a house? 80%? 30?

No idea

Would you accept a bigger drop in price because the housing market crashed?

When was the last time that happened in Australia? Genuine question

'87

[bennymacca]

I'm gonna take my chances I reckon

[Q.]

I'm gonna take my chances I reckon

Well, if it's your family home and not an investment, does it matter if the market undergoes correction? No.

[bennymacca]

I'm gonna take my chances I reckon

Well, if it's your family home and not an investment, does it matter if the market undergoes correction? No.

Yep pretty much

[stan]

Budget night, whos a bit firm already for this?

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[mighty_tiger_79]

Budget night, whos a bit firm already for this?

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I prefer election night myself

[Booney]

Budget night, whos a bit firm already for this?

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I prefer election night myself

Budget night. The night where they openly tell you about the $15 a week they'll give you while they hide the measures that take $25 a week from you.

[Gozu]

[Q.]

Turnbull's lost the ******* plot...drug testing sewage, drug testing welfare recipients.

Or maybe he has a good friend in the pathology lab that gets to conduct the testing

[Magellan]

Turnbull's lost the ******* plot...drug testing sewage, drug testing welfare recipients.

Or maybe he has a good friend in the pathology lab that gets to conduct the testing

With all the touchy freely centrist stuff they still needed a traditional pinata to smack, presumably to keep some of the hardliners from going apoplectic, and the low hanging fruit in this case was welfare recipients. Not sure it does anything except demonise the vulnerable.

[mighty_tiger_79]

I would have a much stronger approach to welfare recipients....in particular those long term unemployed bums who have no interest in working...

[Magellan]

I would have a much stronger approach to welfare recipients....in particular those long term unemployed bums who have no interest in working...

Fair enough, but doesn't the system already have mechanisms for identifying and penalizing bludgers? I'm not sure what drug testing does to get recalcitrant people back to work...or get them off the drugs, for that matter.

[mighty_tiger_79]

I would have a much stronger approach to welfare recipients....in particular those long term unemployed bums who have no interest in working...

Fair enough, but doesn't the system already have mechanisms for identifying and penalizing bludgers? I'm not sure what drug testing does to get recalcitrant people back to work...or get them off the drugs, for that matter.

Ive not seen the fine print. But isnt it something to do with demerit point system.
You fail a drug test you may lose a point??

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[mighty_tiger_79]

I remember a Liberal idea that I thought was superb. Howard may have been in charge.
Send long term unemployed over to WA for the mining boom.
But the lefties said "you cant tear families apart"
Well **** me. Give up 5 years of your life and return home and pay cash for about 3 houses and you are set for life....

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[Magellan]

I would have a much stronger approach to welfare recipients....in particular those long term unemployed bums who have no interest in working...

Fair enough, but doesn't the system already have mechanisms for identifying and penalizing bludgers? I'm not sure what drug testing does to get recalcitrant people back to work...or get them off the drugs, for that matter.

Ive not seen the fine print. But isnt it something to do with demerit point system.
You fail a drug test you may lose a point??

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Yeah, me too, not sure how it really operates in practice. I wonder if pensioners are part of it? If so, no more 'cocaine and canasta' nights at Eunice's apartment down at the Sunnyvales Retirement Village.

[Spargo]

I remember a Liberal idea that I thought was superb. Howard may have been in charge.
Send long term unemployed over to WA for the mining boom.
But the lefties said "you cant tear families apart"
Well **** me. Give up 5 years of your life and return home and pay cash for about 3 houses and you are set for life....

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You could send them to the defence force. Even unskilled people can be given cleaning duties, cooking, laundry chores, driving, vehicle upkeep, maintenance etc
Keswick barracks, Oaklands Pk, the RAAF base at Edinburgh...
20-30 hours p/week - no show, no welfare.

[heater31]

I remember a Liberal idea that I thought was superb. Howard may have been in charge.
Send long term unemployed over to WA for the mining boom.
But the lefties said "you cant tear families apart"
Well **** me. Give up 5 years of your life and return home and pay cash for about 3 houses and you are set for life....

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You could send them to the defence force. Even unskilled people can be given cleaning duties, cooking, laundry chores, driving, vehicle upkeep, maintenance etc
Keswick barracks, Oaklands Pk, the RAAF base at Edinburgh...
20-30 hours p/week - no show, no welfare.

Nah awarding a private company a contract for those services is a much more cost effective idea

[mighty_tiger_79]

I remember a Liberal idea that I thought was superb. Howard may have been in charge.
Send long term unemployed over to WA for the mining boom.
But the lefties said "you cant tear families apart"
Well **** me. Give up 5 years of your life and return home and pay cash for about 3 houses and you are set for life....

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You could send them to the defence force. Even unskilled people can be given cleaning duties, cooking, laundry chores, driving, vehicle upkeep, maintenance etc
Keswick barracks, Oaklands Pk, the RAAF base at Edinburgh...
20-30 hours p/week - no show, no welfare.

Nah awarding a private company a contract for those services is a much more cost effective idea

Spot on. Gotta keep me in a job!

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[stan]

Such a simple plan from Mal T and his mates. SA is a waste land for thr Federal libs at the moment. So why waste the Federal $$$ when you can attack winnable seats in the Eastern states.

Then back in SA, your boys like Pyne just blame the local State government and call them incompetent as really they have already ****** uo so many times this will probably work. All you have to do is make up crap and the SA people are so over the State government that we dont care.

The Federal Budget explained. The Federal libs will do ok from this budget in SA by spinning crap. When really its cost them nothing.

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