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Q. wrote:

Apachebulldog wrote:

Q. wrote:

Apachebulldog wrote:You will find that these historical allegations are a problem for both sides of the political spectrum

I do not know if any of you are aware of this case but this victim is still alive and she has presented more evidence in 2019 and still the corrupt Vic police are sitting on it.

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2021/0 ... rriff.html

I have been following the Kathy Sherriff/Bill Shorten allegation for a few years now and with all the evidence still no prosecution.

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2021/0 ... nst-b.html

Also a great article from Andrew Bolt The Herald Sun.

"Rape Claims
Billl Shorten was protected
Why not this Minister too"

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andr ... a325301ff3

For me once again this highlights the hypocrisy and double standards of politicians and the media.

There's no double standard - the case above was investigated [b]twice by Vic Pol.

Ok right like i said i have followed this story since it came out years ago.

As i can recall when Kathy Sherriff first reported this alledged incident she provided witnesses names etc however the police investigators at the time after a few months or so advised that they could not find/locate these witnesses.

So it was either ineptitude a cover up or just plain corruption as you know Vic Police has a long history of corruption.

Finally after searching Kathy finds most of these witnesses and 2019 provides names etc once again asks Vic Pol to re open the case and supposedly investigate.

Heaps of reports about this case over the years been on current affairs programs etc.

https://www.theunshackled.net/australia ... re-emerge/

https://www.theunshackled.net/australia ... re-emerge/

So Q my question to you and everyone else on here is say that was your mom sister wife daughter who years later came out and made such an allegation would you believe your close family member and steadfastly support her or would you just go along and believe the corrupt Vic Police.

Rape is Rape it does not matter what side of the political fence you sit on its not about scoring cheap political points against each other.

There must be justice and resolution for victims.

My other question to all is Bill Shortens name has been ruined and tarnished for ever by this allegation.

So why has Bill Shorten not sued Kathy Sherriff for defamation etc

To this day Kathy Sherriff is still resolute and fighting for justice.

If, as you say, there is new evidence, then Vic Pol should investigate for a third time. You deciding Vic Pol were corrupt is not evidence.

Q. wrote:The Cabinet Minister who is the subject of the historical rape allegation will make a public statement tomorrow. No doubt he will be welcoming an independent investigation to clear his name.

Q. wrote:The Cabinet Minister who is the subject of the historical rape allegation will make a public statement tomorrow. No doubt he will be welcoming an independent investigation to clear his name.

Apachebulldog wrote:

Q. wrote:The Cabinet Minister who is the subject of the historical rape allegation will make a public statement tomorrow. No doubt he will be welcoming an independent investigation to clear his name.

Wow great lets also have an independent investigation of the other historical rape allegation and clear Bill Shortens name.

Q. wrote:

Apachebulldog wrote:

Q. wrote:The Cabinet Minister who is the subject of the historical rape allegation will make a public statement tomorrow. No doubt he will be welcoming an independent investigation to clear his name.

Wow great lets also have an independent investigation of the other historical rape allegation and clear Bill Shortens name.

Victoria Pollce are responsible for investigating that historical rape allegation and prosecuting under criminal law.

The allegation I refer to above cannot be prosecuted by NSW Police because the alleged victim is dead and there is no victim statement and there can be no victim testimony in court. Thus, the family and friends are seeking an independent investigation under administrative law (similar to Dyson Heydon).

Given that Victoria Police undertook two investigations, then you would agree that the above allegation would at least require a single independent investigation?

daysofourlives wrote:

Q. wrote:

Apachebulldog wrote:

Q. wrote:The Cabinet Minister who is the subject of the historical rape allegation will make a public statement tomorrow. No doubt he will be welcoming an independent investigation to clear his name.

Wow great lets also have an independent investigation of the other historical rape allegation and clear Bill Shortens name.

Victoria Pollce are responsible for investigating that historical rape allegation and prosecuting under criminal law.

The allegation I refer to above cannot be prosecuted by NSW Police because the alleged victim is dead and there is no victim statement and there can be no victim testimony in court. Thus, the family and friends are seeking an independent investigation under administrative law (similar to Dyson Heydon).

Given that Victoria Police undertook two investigations, then you would agree that the above allegation would at least require a single independent investigation?

I guess we can stop investigating murders then since they're dead to?

Jimmy_041 wrote:

daysofourlives wrote:

Q. wrote:Victoria Pollce are responsible for investigating that historical rape allegation and prosecuting under criminal law.

The allegation I refer to above cannot be prosecuted by NSW Police because the alleged victim is dead and there is no victim statement and there can be no victim testimony in court. Thus, the family and friends are seeking an independent investigation under administrative law (similar to Dyson Heydon).

Given that Victoria Police undertook two investigations, then you would agree that the above allegation would at least require a single independent investigation?

I guess we can stop investigating murders then since they're dead to?

Exceptional point Daysie

Jimmy_041 wrote:I’m still betting there are less victim statements in murders trials.

Jimmy_041 wrote:Fortunately, there is still a burden of proof in our legal system regardless of which political party they belong to.
Trial by (social) media, especially the partisan participants, is not enough for the majority of our population and saying there should be an inquiry into a possible crime is just ludicrous. More politics from those who can’t get over losing an election.

I’ll condemn both Shorten & this bloke if they’re convicted in a proper criminal Court otherwise where does it stop?

Jimmy_041 wrote:I’ll condemn both Shorten & this bloke if they’re convicted in a proper criminal Court otherwise where does it stop?

Q. wrote:

Jimmy_041 wrote:I’ll condemn both Shorten & this bloke if they’re convicted in a proper criminal Court otherwise where does it stop?

Most recently, an independent investigation was used to examine Dyson Heydon's sexual harassment of six junior court staff. There is plenty of precedence for this.

Jimmy_041 wrote:But, yeah, hang him up. The left have already found him guilty so he must be

Jimmy_041 wrote:

Q. wrote:

Jimmy_041 wrote:I’ll condemn both Shorten & this bloke if they’re convicted in a proper criminal Court otherwise where does it stop?

Most recently, an independent investigation was used to examine Dyson Heydon's sexual harassment of six junior court staff. There is plenty of precedence for this.

The High Court instituted an investigation into what happened to its employees just as your employer or mine is allowed to do.

There is no way an employer would investigate an alleged crime such as this. They’d probably end up on the end of their own legal problems.

But let’s have a Kangaroo Court anyway. Social media has spoken & found him guilty so he must be.

Mr Beefy wrote:

Dinglinga75 wrote:
NSW police to continue this investigation as they have proven incompetent with investigating Morrisons mentor Brian Houston, over 18 months of investigating and nothing.

NSW police have already decided there is insufficient evidence and closed the case.