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Re: Navy intercepts seventh boat of asylum-seekers in two mo
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Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:26 pmby bennymacca
^ great post.
traditionally this has been the "low" season in terms of boat arrivals too, because it is cyclone season.
will be interesting to see how many boats we are shirking our responsibility for in the coming months
Re: Navy intercepts seventh boat of asylum-seekers in two mo
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Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:12 amby Jimmy_041
bulldogproud2 wrote:Have tried to stay away from the Politics forum lately as I tend to have my blood boil when I read some comments on here (and I have a feeling that mine would have the same effect on other people).
However, I am not sure why Abbott is madly looking around for other countries to host asylum seekers if no asylum seekers are coming anymore. It just doesn't seem to make sense to me. Or, is he actually anticipating a whole lot more asylum seekers coming, knowing that his 'turn back the boat' policy will not work once the weather is improved and they are out of typhoon season.
Even if it is working, it really just means that Australia are expecting the rest of the world to comply with human rights legislation whilst we don't. It is just shifting the problem to another country. The number of asylum seekers in the world won't decline just because Australia refuses to do its part. It really is a terrible stand by the Australian government.
I agree totally with Bennymacca btw that the Labor Party's policy is just as bad as the Liberal Party's. Both of them make me want to cry at times, with the lack of compassion they are showing.
I believe people are still filling in the form (about 30,000 in 2011) and sending it into be assessed and legitimate refugees are being admitted (about 6,000)
It takes about 1 year for your status to be assessed if you provide the correct identification documents
Jumping on a boat and trying to avoid the simple process (which is available at any embassy and online) does not give you any special privileges anymore
Re: Navy intercepts seventh boat of asylum-seekers in two mo
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Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:56 amby Brock Landers
There is a march in the city this Sunday for those who feel strongly about this issue.
Re: Navy intercepts seventh boat of asylum-seekers in two mo
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Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:25 amby bulldogproud2
Brock Landers wrote:There is a march in the city this Sunday for those who feel strongly about this issue.
Will be there.
Cheers
Re: Navy intercepts seventh boat of asylum-seekers in two mo
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Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:28 amby bulldogproud2
Jimmy_041 wrote:bulldogproud2 wrote:Have tried to stay away from the Politics forum lately as I tend to have my blood boil when I read some comments on here (and I have a feeling that mine would have the same effect on other people).
However, I am not sure why Abbott is madly looking around for other countries to host asylum seekers if no asylum seekers are coming anymore. It just doesn't seem to make sense to me. Or, is he actually anticipating a whole lot more asylum seekers coming, knowing that his 'turn back the boat' policy will not work once the weather is improved and they are out of typhoon season.
Even if it is working, it really just means that Australia are expecting the rest of the world to comply with human rights legislation whilst we don't. It is just shifting the problem to another country. The number of asylum seekers in the world won't decline just because Australia refuses to do its part. It really is a terrible stand by the Australian government.
I agree totally with Bennymacca btw that the Labor Party's policy is just as bad as the Liberal Party's. Both of them make me want to cry at times, with the lack of compassion they are showing.
I believe people are still filling in the form (about 30,000 in 2011) and sending it into be assessed and legitimate refugees are being admitted (about 6,000)
It takes about 1 year for your status to be assessed if you provide the correct identification documents
Jumping on a boat and trying to avoid the simple process (which is available at any embassy and online) does not give you any special privileges anymore
As stated before, this option is not available to most asylum seekers. When you are fleeing for your life from persecution, you don't actually have a chance to organise the paperwork which you would require for this option.
Re: Navy intercepts seventh boat of asylum-seekers in two mo
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Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:29 pmby Jimmy_041
They do when they go through a neighbouring country
That Iranian on the 7.30 Report said he was not going to wait any longer and going to jump on a boat to force the issue
Re: Navy intercepts seventh boat of asylum-seekers in two mo
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Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:35 pmby bennymacca
less than 10% of asylum seekers are ever registered with the UNHCR, if thats what you are talking about
Re: Navy intercepts seventh boat of asylum-seekers in two mo
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Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:16 pmby Jimmy_041
They need to get off their asses then
Re: Navy intercepts seventh boat of asylum-seekers in two mo
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Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:28 pmby bennymacca
love how simplistic life is in the eyes of the right.
Re: Navy intercepts seventh boat of asylum-seekers in two mo
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Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:41 pmby bulldogproud2
bennymacca wrote:love how simplistic life is in the eyes of the right.
Shhhh, we better not use that term. They will think it refers to right as in 'correct' rather than 'right' as in leaning the other direction than 'left' *grins*
A good march through the city today - would have probably been somewhere in the vicinity of 3 000.
Cheers
Re: Navy intercepts seventh boat of asylum-seekers in two mo
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Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:02 pmby Jimmy_041
That's somewhere in the vicinity of 1.29m people who think it wasn't worth it
Re: Navy intercepts seventh boat of asylum-seekers in two mo
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Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:09 pmby Roxy the Rat Girl
now now Jimmy, how many people have ever marched the streets of Adelaide to protest against asylum seekers entering Australia? If the answer is zero then by your logic there are 3000 more Adelaidians in favor of asylum seeker entry to this country than there are against it. You may need to organise yourself a rally!
Re: Navy intercepts seventh boat of asylum-seekers in two mo
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Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:29 amby smac
A protest for something the government is trying to achieve? They happen all the time.
Re: Navy intercepts seventh boat of asylum-seekers in two mo
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Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:34 amby Jimmy_041
same old riff raff as well
Re: Navy intercepts seventh boat of asylum-seekers in two mo
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Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:11 amby bulldogproud2
Jimmy_041 wrote:same old riff raff as well
Glad to know you marched, Jimmy!
Otherwise, you would not have a clue who was there *grins* After all, in a few seconds of television coverage, you don't get the opportunity to recognise that many.
I, for one, know that there were many who have never taken part in a protest march before, including myself and a number of my students.
Cheers
Re: Navy intercepts seventh boat of asylum-seekers in two mo
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Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:23 amby Jimmy_041
I saw the 5 second clip
How do you know there were many who have never taken part if you have never been to one?
Lots of churches as well
I'm happy for them to protest when they start paying taxes including corporate tax, CGT & Land Tax like the rest of us, otherwise, IMO, they have no right to make any political statement
Re: Navy intercepts seventh boat of asylum-seekers in two mo
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Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:46 amby Booney
Jimmy_041 wrote:I saw the 5 second clip
How do you know there were many who have never taken part if you have never been to one?
Lots of churches as well
I'm happy for them to protest when they start paying taxes including corporate tax, CGT & Land Tax like the rest of us, otherwise, IMO, they have no right to make any political statement
Usually think of those who are wasting their time as the ones with the most time to waste.
Re: Navy intercepts seventh boat of asylum-seekers in two mo
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Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:16 pmby Jimmy_041
That was very:
Re: Navy intercepts seventh boat of asylum-seekers in two mo
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Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:43 pmby gossipgirl
I like chocolates
Re: Navy intercepts seventh boat of asylum-seekers in two mo
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Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:55 pmby Booney
Jimmy_041 wrote:That was very:
Well, I
work full time and have a family. I don't have that much time to waste.