bennymacca wrote:bulldogproud2 wrote:
Agreed that it is pretty funny. One of the reasons is because it shows a complete lack of understanding of religion. The Creation story in the Bible was an attempt by early mankind to provide understanding of how the world was created. We know that it is not meant to be taken literally. It is akin to Aboriginal Dreamtime stories.
Basically what you are telling me is that you think you can pick and choose the stuff out of the bible that you believe, and the stuff you don't have to believe. Why is the creation story to be taken as a metaphor but nothing else? Because it has been disproved? Well I'm pretty sure coming back from the dead can't happen either bit Christians don't seem to be going out of their way to test that theory.
Which is extremely wishy washy and smacks of ignorance.
bulldogproud2 wrote:It is amazing how creation works, is it not? The thought that a one-cell creature that was magically created out of a 'big bang' which came out of nothing at all has given birth to a wonderfully diverse incredible system of life that includes beings with deep intellect and the ability to reason would be as hard to fathom for many as your cartoon. However, it is fact. How did this happen? Well, 90% of people on earth believe it was through a wonderful Creator. The other 10% believe it was a complete fluke, random chance that should never have occured.
I know which one I believe is more plausible.
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Once again, you have changed your argument to "is there a god," which is not the point I am arguing. And saying that 90% of people believe in god so therefore there must be one is ridiculous when you consider that all of the different religions think that their god is the only one.
And with regards to evolution and the fact we are sentient etc isn't a justification for a god, it is proof that evolution works.
Part of the fallacy of religion is the inherent belief that we are somehow special and different to every other species on the planet, rather than just the best.
A good article to show how bad scientific literacy is
http://www.iflscience.com/scientific-kn ... -support-0
Benny, unfortunately you have made a few misstatements in there. Three of the four major world faiths: Christianity, Islam and Judaism, all believe in the same God, the same Creator. What they don't agree with is their level of acceptance of things. Muslims see Jesus, not as the Son of God,but as a great prophet. Jewish people do not deny the existence of Jesus but do not see him as being the Messiah. It is not a case of faiths not believing in the same God at all.
It is all well and good to say that evolution works but it does not explain why evolution occurs, does it?? What suddenly placed thought, intellect, reason, emotion etc. into the world? Have you ever decided to actually investigate more fully. To say that one thing happens is one thing. However, explore reasons behind what causes it to happen. It shows a lack of intellectual fortitude to simply say that 'evolution occurs, therefore there is no God'. Deeper intellect can see that evolution and the existence of God can truly support one another.
Also, as for the parts of the Bible to believe in etc. I think you will find that most Christians will support the New Testament as the writing of it occurred not too long after Jesus' life and are based on factual evidence. Even non-Christians recorded aspects of Jesus' life. As for the Old Testament, particularly the earlier stages, it was just man's way of imagining what happened and trying to explain it.
Re the article, the author makes a few assumptions. He states that just because someone does not believe something, the person must never have heard about it. There is every chance that people were aware of those scientific 'explanations', they just chose not to accept them.
Cheers