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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby dukes » Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:02 am

Toby hasledine is a handy pick up for Hamley bridge.. Huge unit played for moonta last year must be on a good package
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby alltruth » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:28 pm

What sort off $$ are the players on . Talking to mate the other day and said they pay pretty well & we were wondering if the clubs are doing the right thing? If all the money i here that is being paid are they also paying super on that money? Personally I have never herd of player getting paid super. Maybe someone can put our mine @ ease.
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:33 pm

alltruth wrote:What sort off $$ are the players on . Talking to mate the other day and said they pay pretty well & we were wondering if the clubs are doing the right thing? If all the money i here that is being paid are they also paying super on that money? Personally I have never herd of player getting paid super. Maybe someone can put our mine @ ease.

Probably halve what you've been told and you're probably around the mark. Throw some figures out there and then you might get some feedback on how close you are.
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby alltruth » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:41 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
alltruth wrote:What sort off $$ are the players on . Talking to mate the other day and said they pay pretty well & we were wondering if the clubs are doing the right thing? If all the money i here that is being paid are they also paying super on that money? Personally I have never herd of player getting paid super. Maybe someone can put our mine @ ease.

Probably halve what you've been told and you're probably around the mark. Throw some figures out there and the. n you might get some feedback on how close you are.


I'm being told $700 to $1000 a game for some players?? If that's the case anf of course it would all be payed through the books. To me that would mean the club would have to pay between 2 to $400 super a month also???
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby OnSong » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:55 pm

alltruth wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
alltruth wrote:What sort off $$ are the players on . Talking to mate the other day and said they pay pretty well & we were wondering if the clubs are doing the right thing? If all the money i here that is being paid are they also paying super on that money? Personally I have never herd of player getting paid super. Maybe someone can put our mine @ ease.

Probably halve what you've been told and you're probably around the mark. Throw some figures out there and the. n you might get some feedback on how close you are.


I'm being told $700 to $1000 a game for some players?? If that's the case anf of course it would all be payed through the books. To me that would mean the club would have to pay between 2 to $400 super a month also???

I'd say these would be cash payments, so not sure if super would be necessary.
Not many players would be on $1000 but there may be barely a handful at best.
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby alltruth » Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:10 pm

OnSong wrote:
alltruth wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
alltruth wrote:What sort off $$ are the players on . Talking to mate the other day and said they pay pretty well & we were wondering if the clubs are doing the right thing? If all the money i here that is being paid are they also paying super on that money? Personally I have never herd of player getting paid super. Maybe someone can put our mine @ ease.

Probably halve what you've been told and you're probably around the mark. Throw some figures out there and the. n you might get some feedback on how close you are.


I'm being told $700 to $1000 a game for some players?? If that's the case anf of course it would all be payed through the books. To me that would mean the club would have to pay between 2 to $400 super a month also???[/quot

That's a lot of cash 4 a club to find and I'm sure the ato wouldnr b to happy lol
I'd say these would be cash payments, so not sure if super would be necessary.
Not many players would be on $1000 but there may be barely a handful at best.
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby OnSong » Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:36 pm

alltruth wrote:
OnSong wrote:
alltruth wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Probably halve what you've been told and you're probably around the mark. Throw some figures out there and the. n you might get some feedback on how close you are.


I'm being told $700 to $1000 a game for some players?? If that's the case anf of course it would all be payed through the books. To me that would mean the club would have to pay between 2 to $400 super a month also???

I'd say these would be cash payments, so not sure if super would be necessary.
Not many players would be on $1000 but there may be barely a handful at best.

That's a lot of cash 4 a club to find and I'm sure the ato wouldnr b to happy lol

Agreed. I'm not sure how these figures are accounted for etc but I'm pretty sure clubs don't pay super as part of a match payment.
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby stork » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:45 am

The player payments in the APFL let alone any other country football league would not bother the ATO.

They have bigger fish to fry. missing out on $500-1000 (at very very most) a week from the APFL combined for 20 odd weeks wont bust Australia and would cost more to investigate.

Regardless, those not on $1000 a week (closer to $250-300 a week) can declare the income if they so feel the need as an "income from a hobby" (not sure of the correct term). i think you can earn up to $5000 per annum tax free.

lets be honest. to take $1000+ per game from a club would be hard for most of us to stomach. Most would say they love there club, they would personally know the sponsors. BUT Some people may need it as income to support there family, all be it for just a 1/3rd the year, i dont know if this is accurate in the APFL.

Thats all im saying on this subject.
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby Swamp Donkey » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:10 am

Let be realistic here LMc, in the last two seasons Hamley have picked up some quality players, ie Hanson, Thach, Greenwood, Taylor, Flynn, Hasaldine (?). There are many other country clubs around that would have spoken to these players and offered them big money to play for their club. Some of these blokes are high quality footballers. We all know how much money is available in country leagues for guys like these. We can argue all day long, (Lightning McQueen- like you so often do) that all these rumoured figures are probably double of their actual payments but we all know that its probably not too far off the mark. IMO it is not an over exaggeration at all to assume quite reasonably and realistically that guys like Taylor, Hanson and Greenwood would be on close to $800-$1000 per game (EACH). These guys have been on $600 - $800 per game at other clubs, that is fact, I know this and anyone else that has tried to recuit gun players of this calibre ( ask Mythical Creature, Ace of Spades etc etc) knows that thats what these type of players are asking (because they can get it - i dont blame them), so explain to me why else would these blokes want to be playing at a footy club that has won just 10 games in 7 years? Do you really think that these guys would be taking a pay cut to play at HB Lightning Mc?
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby OnSong » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:16 am

Swamp Donkey wrote:Let be realistic here LMc, in the last two seasons Hamley have picked up some quality players, ie Hanson, Thach, Greenwood, Taylor, Flynn, Hasaldine (?). There are many other country clubs around that would have spoken to these players and offered them big money to play for their club. Some of these blokes are high quality footballers. We all know how much money is available in country leagues for guys like these. We can argue all day long, (Lightning McQueen- like you so often do) that all these rumoured figures are probably double of their actual payments but we all know that its probably not too far off the mark. IMO it is not an over exaggeration at all to assume quite reasonably and realistically that guys like Taylor, Hanson and Greenwood would be on close to $800-$1000 per game (EACH). These guys have been on $600 - $800 per game at other clubs, that is fact, I know this and anyone else that has tried to recuit gun players of this calibre ( ask Mythical Creature, Ace of Spades etc etc) knows that thats what these type of players are asking (because they can get it - i dont blame them), so explain to me why else would these blokes want to be playing at a footy club that has won just 10 games in 7 years? Do you really think that these guys would be taking a pay cut to play at HB Lightning Mc?

I'd agree on about $800. $1000 is the next level though, surely?
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby RooShootOhh » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:30 am

OnSong wrote:
Swamp Donkey wrote:Let be realistic here LMc, in the last two seasons Hamley have picked up some quality players, ie Hanson, Thach, Greenwood, Taylor, Flynn, Hasaldine (?). There are many other country clubs around that would have spoken to these players and offered them big money to play for their club. Some of these blokes are high quality footballers. We all know how much money is available in country leagues for guys like these. We can argue all day long, (Lightning McQueen- like you so often do) that all these rumoured figures are probably double of their actual payments but we all know that its probably not too far off the mark. IMO it is not an over exaggeration at all to assume quite reasonably and realistically that guys like Taylor, Hanson and Greenwood would be on close to $800-$1000 per game (EACH). These guys have been on $600 - $800 per game at other clubs, that is fact, I know this and anyone else that has tried to recuit gun players of this calibre ( ask Mythical Creature, Ace of Spades etc etc) knows that thats what these type of players are asking (because they can get it - i dont blame them), so explain to me why else would these blokes want to be playing at a footy club that has won just 10 games in 7 years? Do you really think that these guys would be taking a pay cut to play at HB Lightning Mc?

I'd agree on about $800. $1000 is the next level though, surely?

One thing your missing I think Swamp are some external factors. Granted what your saying may be a good argument for an individual chasing coin, but the points system does place some restrictions on mates wanting to play together. Not too many clubs in the state would have had 15 points last year to allow Taylor Thach Hanson Flynn (x2 i think from memory) to all turn up at once. so if they want to play together for a few years their option would have been limited as to where they could go and then who could afford all 5 of them. So potentially they wouldn't be getting their market value so they can play with their mates (not for the love of a club they have just arrived at as some try and sell it, though that may change over time). with them dropping points each this year allows a couple of more mates Greenwood Haseldine to follow the next year, again potentially to play with rates rather than highest bidder. Even though these blokes get paid a fair bit to play footy, doesn't automatically mean they are the sort of blokes who sell themselves to the highes bidder (even though there are a few out there).
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby Swamp Donkey » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:55 am

RooShootOhh wrote:
OnSong wrote:
Swamp Donkey wrote:Let be realistic here LMc, in the last two seasons Hamley have picked up some quality players, ie Hanson, Thach, Greenwood, Taylor, Flynn, Hasaldine (?). There are many other country clubs around that would have spoken to these players and offered them big money to play for their club. Some of these blokes are high quality footballers. We all know how much money is available in country leagues for guys like these. We can argue all day long, (Lightning McQueen- like you so often do) that all these rumoured figures are probably double of their actual payments but we all know that its probably not too far off the mark. IMO it is not an over exaggeration at all to assume quite reasonably and realistically that guys like Taylor, Hanson and Greenwood would be on close to $800-$1000 per game (EACH). These guys have been on $600 - $800 per game at other clubs, that is fact, I know this and anyone else that has tried to recuit gun players of this calibre ( ask Mythical Creature, Ace of Spades etc etc) knows that thats what these type of players are asking (because they can get it - i dont blame them), so explain to me why else would these blokes want to be playing at a footy club that has won just 10 games in 7 years? Do you really think that these guys would be taking a pay cut to play at HB Lightning Mc?

I'd agree on about $800. $1000 is the next level though, surely?

One thing your missing I think Swamp are some external factors. Granted what your saying may be a good argument for an individual chasing coin, but the points system does place some restrictions on mates wanting to play together. Not too many clubs in the state would have had 15 points last year to allow Taylor Thach Hanson Flynn (x2 i think from memory) to all turn up at once. so if they want to play together for a few years their option would have been limited as to where they could go and then who could afford all 5 of them. So potentially they wouldn't be getting their market value so they can play with their mates (not for the love of a club they have just arrived at as some try and sell it, though that may change over time). with them dropping points each this year allows a couple of more mates Greenwood Haseldine to follow the next year, again potentially to play with rates rather than highest bidder. Even though these blokes get paid a fair bit to play footy, doesn't automatically mean they are the sort of blokes who sell themselves to the highes bidder (even though there are a few out there).


Fair point Roo - but I'm not totally convinced. I was talking mainly about Greenwood, Taylor and Hansen. I wouldnt expect the rest to be on a real lot, in comparison. You can't seriously expect us to believe that all these fellas are at Hamley just to play footy together. Don't get me wrong I am not having a crack at Hamley (I understand they have trouble luring players out there, like United and HWE) or these players chasing coin, we all know the potential benefit of a few extra $$ each week in eveyday living, and if you dont have a home club and you can get it why not. All three are first class payers and should be on good money. The point I was making, is that alltruth asked a question, but I didnt agree with Lightning McQueens answer. Furthermore, it was probably unfair to single out Hamley, as this is the case for many country footy clubs. Irrespective of the $$$ these guys are on, Hamley have done bloody well to get these fellas on board. Im sure we'll see a bomber ressurgence of some type in 2013, and I hope they can string a few good years together for the leagues sake.
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:41 pm

Swamp Donkey wrote:Let be realistic here LMc, in the last two seasons Hamley have picked up some quality players, ie Hanson, Thach, Greenwood, Taylor, Flynn, Hasaldine (?). There are many other country clubs around that would have spoken to these players and offered them big money to play for their club. Some of these blokes are high quality footballers. We all know how much money is available in country leagues for guys like these. We can argue all day long, (Lightning McQueen- like you so often do) that all these rumoured figures are probably double of their actual payments but we all know that its probably not too far off the mark. IMO it is not an over exaggeration at all to assume quite reasonably and realistically that guys like Taylor, Hanson and Greenwood would be on close to $800-$1000 per game (EACH). These guys have been on $600 - $800 per game at other clubs, that is fact, I know this and anyone else that has tried to recuit gun players of this calibre ( ask Mythical Creature, Ace of Spades etc etc) knows that thats what these type of players are asking (because they can get it - i dont blame them), so explain to me why else would these blokes want to be playing at a footy club that has won just 10 games in 7 years? Do you really think that these guys would be taking a pay cut to play at HB Lightning Mc?


Thankyou, I'd suspect the further away from the metropolitan area the higher the asking price, given that Hamley is not that far out it is pretty convenient to play out there, have a couple at the club and be back home around 8ish and not tired from a long drive.
I personally have had no involvement with any country clubs, I have heard figures bandied around but you're looking at near $5K per week for a half a dozen players, that's a lot of salad rolls.
I didn't think that I've mentioned player payments excessively but then again I haven't paid much attention, but I do appreciate your feedback as I was unaware that the numbers were so high, it must be a fair kick in the nuts for the locals who play for love of their community.
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby BOMBERS » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:44 pm

I went out to training last night and didn't see Haseldine training. I asked around and he hasn't signed with the club.
So you can end that rumour.
All this talk about each recruits player payments happens every year with nobody knowing any true figures.
I agree they would all be getting paid but $800-$1000 a game each? Poor Newton and Schahinger motors would be filing for bankruptcy
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby The Patriach » Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:37 am

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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby test » Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:50 pm

BOMBERS wrote:I went out to training last night and didn't see Haseldine training. I asked around and he hasn't signed with the club.
So you can end that rumour.
All this talk about each recruits player payments happens every year with nobody knowing any true figures.
I agree they would all be getting paid but $800-$1000 a game each? Poor Newton and Schahinger motors would be filing for bankruptcy


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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby BigV » Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:19 pm

Is there an up to date Clearance page?
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby OnSong » Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:20 pm

BigV wrote:Is there an up to date Clearance page?

No
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby footys the winner » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:40 pm

test wrote:
BOMBERS wrote:I went out to training last night and didn't see Haseldine training. I asked around and he hasn't signed with the club.
So you can end that rumour.
All this talk about each recruits player payments happens every year with nobody knowing any true figures.
I agree they would all be getting paid but $800-$1000 a game each? Poor Newton and Schahinger motors would be filing for bankruptcy


Haseldines at Salisbury North.


Yep.
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby AKA » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:23 am

footys the winner wrote:
test wrote:
BOMBERS wrote:I went out to training last night and didn't see Haseldine training. I asked around and he hasn't signed with the club.
So you can end that rumour.
All this talk about each recruits player payments happens every year with nobody knowing any true figures.
I agree they would all be getting paid but $800-$1000 a game each? Poor Newton and Schahinger motors would be filing for bankruptcy


Haseldines at Salisbury North.


Yep.

Maybe, Maybe not ;)
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