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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby OnSong » Wed May 15, 2013 2:58 pm

Yet another tough round to pick with no poster climbing the dreaded four-point barrier. Big margins for Hamley Bridge and Mallala cost tipsters points, while the split over Balaklava and United ended up burning a few as well. UNDERthePACK is sneaking his way up the ladder and is now into third spot, while seven tipsters are locked together on 14 points. Hazbeen and Nighthawk retain the top two positions for another week at least. I may have missed the tips from ramsgate.
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby Swamp Donkey » Wed May 15, 2013 3:14 pm

OnSong wrote:Should update the tipping comp today. When I can be bothered. Here's some interesting jazz.

Hamley Bridge have the full allocation of 15 points this year + bonus/contingency points etc.

If the Bombers win 11 matches this year, they will still be under the 15 point barrier for 2014.

If they win 12 matches, they lose a point to 14 points. If they go through the rest of the season undefeated, it will drop to 13 points.

Balaklava's solid three years previously mean if the Peckers win eight games, they lose a point and drop to eight points. It would take a fair bit to go any further up or down from there.

Hummocks can win up to 14 games and still retain a 10-point recruit cap. Two to three wins will mean 14 points, four to six wins 13 points, seven to nine wins 12 points and 10 to 12 will result in 11 player points.

Mallala can win between 11 and 14 games and stay at the 8-point cap. 10 wins will net the Magpies 9 points, while they would need to lose all remaining games to grab a 10th recruit point.

Two Wells will go down from 12 to 10 points if they win between 10 and 13 matches. Nine wins will give them 11 points for next year, while four to six wins will retain the current 12 point allocation.

United will receive 15 points next year if they win three or four games. Five to seven wins will mean 14 points, 11 wins will result in 13 points, and 12 wins will mean 12 points.

If Virginia win no or one more game/s this year, they will get 10 points next year. Five to 10 wins will retain a 9-point allocation, with 11 to 14 wins creeping into 8-point territory.


All that being said, if clubs want additional points all they need to do is ask the board :shock: :shock: Its bewildering really. The board basically decides on the allocation regardless, overruling the 'points system' allocation, eg. the additional points for Hamley this year and also the gift of a three point player to HWE. WTF is the point ?? :shock: :shock:
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby BigV » Wed May 15, 2013 3:15 pm

Hamley Bridge 21 +
United 1- 7 A Mills to dominate
Virginia 5 - 14 Heard Joss is taking a more spiritual and Philosophical approach to saturday
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby Lame Choice » Wed May 15, 2013 3:23 pm

Swamp Donkey wrote:
All that being said, if clubs want additional points all they need to do is ask the board :shock: :shock: Its bewildering really. The board basically decides on the allocation regardless, overruling the 'points system' allocation, eg. the additional points for Hamley this year and also the gift of a three point player to HWE. WTF is the point ?? :shock: :shock:


Errr. I think you'll find HB were granted a zero point allocation for a specific player that lives in the town. It's a bit like a certain some one else a couple of years ago in Balak.
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby OnSong » Wed May 15, 2013 3:35 pm

Lame Choice wrote:
Swamp Donkey wrote:
All that being said, if clubs want additional points all they need to do is ask the board :shock: :shock: Its bewildering really. The board basically decides on the allocation regardless, overruling the 'points system' allocation, eg. the additional points for Hamley this year and also the gift of a three point player to HWE. WTF is the point ?? :shock: :shock:


Errr. I think you'll find HB were granted a zero point allocation for a specific player that lives in the town. It's a bit like a certain some one else a couple of years ago in Balak.

Every club received an extra three points that year from memory.
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby hanno_7 » Wed May 15, 2013 3:38 pm

Swamp Donkey wrote:
OnSong wrote:Should update the tipping comp today. When I can be bothered. Here's some interesting jazz.

Hamley Bridge have the full allocation of 15 points this year + bonus/contingency points etc.

If the Bombers win 11 matches this year, they will still be under the 15 point barrier for 2014.

If they win 12 matches, they lose a point to 14 points. If they go through the rest of the season undefeated, it will drop to 13 points.

Balaklava's solid three years previously mean if the Peckers win eight games, they lose a point and drop to eight points. It would take a fair bit to go any further up or down from there.

Hummocks can win up to 14 games and still retain a 10-point recruit cap. Two to three wins will mean 14 points, four to six wins 13 points, seven to nine wins 12 points and 10 to 12 will result in 11 player points.

Mallala can win between 11 and 14 games and stay at the 8-point cap. 10 wins will net the Magpies 9 points, while they would need to lose all remaining games to grab a 10th recruit point.

Two Wells will go down from 12 to 10 points if they win between 10 and 13 matches. Nine wins will give them 11 points for next year, while four to six wins will retain the current 12 point allocation.

United will receive 15 points next year if they win three or four games. Five to seven wins will mean 14 points, 11 wins will result in 13 points, and 12 wins will mean 12 points.

If Virginia win no or one more game/s this year, they will get 10 points next year. Five to 10 wins will retain a 9-point allocation, with 11 to 14 wins creeping into 8-point territory.


All that being said, if clubs want additional points all they need to do is ask the board :shock: :shock: Its bewildering really. The board basically decides on the allocation regardless, overruling the 'points system' allocation, eg. the additional points for Hamley this year and also the gift of a three point player to HWE. WTF is the point ?? :shock: :shock:


Hamley have 15pts to play with only used 11 on the weekend
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby Lame Choice » Wed May 15, 2013 3:53 pm

OnSong wrote:
Lame Choice wrote:
Swamp Donkey wrote:
All that being said, if clubs want additional points all they need to do is ask the board :shock: :shock: Its bewildering really. The board basically decides on the allocation regardless, overruling the 'points system' allocation, eg. the additional points for Hamley this year and also the gift of a three point player to HWE. WTF is the point ?? :shock: :shock:


Errr. I think you'll find HB were granted a zero point allocation for a specific player that lives in the town. It's a bit like a certain some one else a couple of years ago in Balak.

Every club received an extra three points that year from memory.


and an exemption of points for one player for the first year he moved to town. I may be wrong.. but I don't think so :D
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby OnSong » Wed May 15, 2013 3:54 pm

Lame Choice wrote:
OnSong wrote:
Lame Choice wrote:
Swamp Donkey wrote:
All that being said, if clubs want additional points all they need to do is ask the board :shock: :shock: Its bewildering really. The board basically decides on the allocation regardless, overruling the 'points system' allocation, eg. the additional points for Hamley this year and also the gift of a three point player to HWE. WTF is the point ?? :shock: :shock:


Errr. I think you'll find HB were granted a zero point allocation for a specific player that lives in the town. It's a bit like a certain some one else a couple of years ago in Balak.

Every club received an extra three points that year from memory.


and an exemption of points for one player for the first year he moved to town. I may be wrong.. but I don't think so :D

As a result of the exemption, the other clubs arked up so the league allowed three extra points to the other clubs. I think MC would remember better than I do though.
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby stork » Wed May 15, 2013 4:10 pm

Of the points topic but, it is my belief that the SANFL u/18s and other leagues with in SA have an allowance for above age players administered by the clubs. Do people on the forum think that this would assist the curent depleted numbers in the u/17s? for example each club might be allowed 2 players who are 17 and a half or 18. Similar to the current player permit system, but requires less administation from then SA Junior Development Panel as it is administered by the clubs. rules would need to be in place for obvious reasons.
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby OnSong » Wed May 15, 2013 4:11 pm

stork wrote:Of the points topic but, it is my belief that the SANFL u/18s and other leagues with in SA have an allowance for above age players administered by the clubs. Do people on the forum think that this would assist the curent depleted numbers in the u/17s? for example each club might be allowed 2 players who are 17 and a half or 18. Similar to the current player permit system, but requires less administation from then SA Junior Development Panel as it is administered by the clubs. rules would need to be in place for obvious reasons.

Good in theory I guess.
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby Swamp Donkey » Wed May 15, 2013 4:47 pm

Lame Choice wrote:
Swamp Donkey wrote:
All that being said, if clubs want additional points all they need to do is ask the board :shock: :shock: Its bewildering really. The board basically decides on the allocation regardless, overruling the 'points system' allocation, eg. the additional points for Hamley this year and also the gift of a three point player to HWE. WTF is the point ?? :shock: :shock:


Errr. I think you'll find HB were granted a zero point allocation for a specific player that lives in the town. It's a bit like a certain some one else a couple of years ago in Balak.


and thats different to giving them 3 extra points??......how so?? As mentioned, all clubs were compensated for that allowance to Balak. Not this year :? .
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby Mythical Creature » Wed May 15, 2013 5:08 pm

As long as the lad from Hamley and the bloke from Hummocks are counted as 2 points next year then I think its fine. That would be consistent, as Pearson from Balak was 2 points last year and 1 point this year (Is this right Onsong/Hazbeen)? If those guys are counted as 0 next year, that would take some explaining regarding the inconsistency.

The thing I don't get however, is that Hamley and Hummocks have applied to get these players as 0 pointers, presumably using the basis that their points allocation is full, then recruited points players after getting them through as 0's. That probably doesn't quite sit right.
Example: (not 100% if all these carry points)
Hamley - Hasledine
Hummocks - Hatcher, Msapenda, Nietschke, Noske.
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby Shoot it » Wed May 15, 2013 5:20 pm

Who is the zero point player at Hamley?? - I thought they had / were using 22 points in the first couple of weeks.
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby OnSong » Wed May 15, 2013 5:24 pm

Mythical Creature wrote:As long as the lad from Hamley and the bloke from Hummocks are counted as 2 points next year then I think its fine. That would be consistent, as Pearson from Balak was 2 points last year and 1 point this year (Is this right Onsong/Hazbeen)? If those guys are counted as 0 next year, that would take some explaining regarding the inconsistency.

The thing I don't get however, is that Hamley and Hummocks have applied to get these players as 0 pointers, presumably using the basis that their points allocation is full, then recruited points players after getting them through as 0's. That probably doesn't quite sit right.
Example: (not 100% if all these carry points)
Hamley - Hasledine
Hummocks - Hatcher, Msapenda, Nietschke, Noske.

Yep, 2 last year, 1 this year
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby hotspur » Wed May 15, 2013 5:25 pm

Zanandrea?
2 next year?
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby Lame Choice » Wed May 15, 2013 5:41 pm

Swamp Donkey wrote:
Lame Choice wrote:
Swamp Donkey wrote:
All that being said, if clubs want additional points all they need to do is ask the board :shock: :shock: Its bewildering really. The board basically decides on the allocation regardless, overruling the 'points system' allocation, eg. the additional points for Hamley this year and also the gift of a three point player to HWE. WTF is the point ?? :shock: :shock:


Errr. I think you'll find HB were granted a zero point allocation for a specific player that lives in the town. It's a bit like a certain some one else a couple of years ago in Balak.


and thats different to giving them 3 extra points??......how so?? As mentioned, all clubs were compensated for that allowance to Balak. Not this year :? .


The difference is that 3 points can be used for anyone.
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby mighty hounds » Wed May 15, 2013 5:43 pm

Lame Choice wrote:
Swamp Donkey wrote:
Lame Choice wrote:
Swamp Donkey wrote:
All that being said, if clubs want additional points all they need to do is ask the board :shock: :shock: Its bewildering really. The board basically decides on the allocation regardless, overruling the 'points system' allocation, eg. the additional points for Hamley this year and also the gift of a three point player to HWE. WTF is the point ?? :shock: :shock:


Errr. I think you'll find HB were granted a zero point allocation for a specific player that lives in the town. It's a bit like a certain some one else a couple of years ago in Balak.


and thats different to giving them 3 extra points??......how so?? As mentioned, all clubs were compensated for that allowance to Balak. Not this year :? .


The difference is that 3 points can be used for anyone.


haha wow :shock:
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby stork » Wed May 15, 2013 5:45 pm

cant believe that people are still talking about fricking points, i know some of you bloke individually you are smart people, others not so - you know who you are.

Why are people still worried about this. Congrats to Hamley for finally using their full allocation of points, let the league decide who is and who is not worth points.

I know where you are coming from swampy, but the whole entire league is inconsistent; not only the points allocation/system.
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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby Lame Choice » Wed May 15, 2013 5:51 pm

stork wrote:cant believe that people are still talking about fricking points, i know some of you bloke individually you are smart people, others not so - you know who you are.

Why are people still worried about this. Congrats to Hamley for finally using their full allocation of points, let the league decide who is and who is not worth points.

I know where you are coming from swampy, but the whole entire league is inconsistent; not only the points allocation/system.


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Re: Adelaide Plains Football League

Postby OnSong » Wed May 15, 2013 6:22 pm

stork wrote:cant believe that people are still talking about fricking points, i know some of you bloke individually you are smart people, others not so - you know who you are.

Why are people still worried about this. Congrats to Hamley for finally using their full allocation of points, let the league decide who is and who is not worth points.

I know where you are coming from swampy, but the whole entire league is inconsistent; not only the points allocation/system.

Is it not a topic of discussion? All I did was post what teams should be getting next season depending on how many matches each team wins.
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