Adelaide Plains Football League

[Kcco]

I hate to do it but I have to agree with MH here.
I talk to nick often and he seems to be pretty content with two wells, the kid will get his shot and be even more determined to prove himself when he does.
I think you work your way into a team, even a talented player which nick is.
A grade is quiet a big step up from 17's, and I'm a believer of proving yourself. Nick has had 2 games this year I think in the A's and held himself I thought pretty well but a under 17 player can't expect to be picked over a guy who has fought his way into the side.[/quote]
This is a really hard one to get right...
Firstly, NO KID should think he deserves an A Grade game, they have to be earnt.
With that said there are two ways to look at it

1) as Kcco said, wait your turn, form has to warrant pushing someone out of the spot. The risk with that is, what if a good kid has waited his time, doesnt get the opportunity he wants, and a club from a neighbouring league offer him $100 and the promise of an A Grade game, Kid gone! (and his mates). And what if the bloke keeping him out of that spot never improves, he is the 19-21 player picked every week, solid without being great, the result wouldn't change whether he played or not.

2) The kid plays, even both Colts and A's, plays Colts in the morning then starts on the bench in the A's. His output is potentially as good as a player picked 19-21, but what it also does is creates a culture that keeps talented footballers at your club. The player who misses for him still may get games due to other injuries etc, but at the end of the day, the long term future of the club should be considered before that of and average (with all due respect) player.

I'm not saying either is the right choice, I'm not condoning clubs poaching kids for $ (but it happens so you have to face it as a problem), it also depends on the good old premiership window, when does immediate success become more important than long term future???

All I know is that no kid should be trying to hold a club to ransom for an A grade game![/quote]
I agree with a lot of what's said the kids need a chance to prove themselves and how else are they meant to if they don't get their shot. Well the way I see clubs work, if your a fringe player (most clubs have players that go between a grade and b grade) you need to fight to hold your spot because you know you have talented young hungry players who want it. It promotes better quality football.

I do think nick will be at two wells come season 2014 tho

[Ace of Spades]

Charlie Arbon, 4 goals on debut for Balak as a 15 year old. Who stood him Ace?

It would appear no one.....

[RooShootOhh]

How is this getting so much attention. I'm pretty sure bugs knows how to coach and maybe the reason he's not in 21 is the fact that's there's 21 guys ahead of him that deserve a spot. If everyone is that concerned ring up Bugs and ask him.

no-one is that concerned mate, just offering opinions... I thought that what's forums were for?

[RooShootOhh]

Charlie Arbon, 4 goals on debut for Balak as a 15 year old. Who stood him Ace?

It would appear no one.....

Any chance HWE might go out of their way and paint 50m arcs on the oval for 2nd semi final day???

[Dizzee Rascal]

Anyone else heard talk of Freeling wanting out of the Barossa comp?

I heard this rumour but it won't happen. They've had a couple of bad years on the field in the A grade but they played in 3 consecutive Grand Finals only about 2-3 years before that. As far as I know all their other grades are competitive, the town is growing and they're certainly not short of a quid. Probably just a throwaway comment from someone at the club that grew legs.

[Lightning McQueen]

Charlie Arbon, 4 goals on debut for Balak as a 15 year old. Who stood him Ace?

That's great for the APFL, there is a plethora of talented juniors in this comp.

[The Patriach]

Anyone else heard talk of Freeling wanting out of the Barossa comp?

Absolutely no chance, but you can't fault APFL Admin for trying to lure them over repeatedly. FFC administration have placed the club very well to compete for premierships over all grades in the next 5 - 10 years in the BL&GFA competition. More money to be made competing in the BL&G as well, gate receipts, sponsorship, canteen/bar takings, etc.

[Freaky Tah]

i know it as FACT because the kid contacted me asking if i knew of any clubs wanting a -1 point U17 player and had the club that i had lined up for him been a bit more pro-active they would have got Nik to offset that clubs recent BIG 3 point signing, time will tell if the kid remains at Two Wells

So he thinks he can just walk into an A grade team? Bugs always gives a kid a chance if he deserves it. Just can't expect to play A grade when your not out of colts yet

I did not say that, he is starved of opportunity to play in the A grade at Two Wells which cant be helped with the cattle you currently have for instance someone of his ability would be snapped up by a hamley and be playing regular A grade games (or more than he currently has) to offset their imports that attract 2-3 points or more hence why hamley play 3-4 U18 a week

[Freaky Tah]

How is this getting so much attention. I'm pretty sure bugs knows how to coach and maybe the reason he's not in 21 is the fact that's there's 21 guys ahead of him that deserve a spot. If everyone is that concerned ring up Bugs and ask him.

no-one is that concerned mate, just offering opinions... I thought that what's forums were for?

[mighty hounds]

i know it as FACT because the kid contacted me asking if i knew of any clubs wanting a -1 point U17 player and had the club that i had lined up for him been a bit more pro-active they would have got Nik to offset that clubs recent BIG 3 point signing, time will tell if the kid remains at Two Wells

So he thinks he can just walk into an A grade team? Bugs always gives a kid a chance if he deserves it. Just can't expect to play A grade when your not out of colts yet

I did not say that, he is starved of opportunity to play in the A grade at Two Wells which cant be helped with the cattle you currently have for instance someone of his ability would be snapped up by a hamley and be playing regular A grade games (or more than he currently has) to offset their imports that attract 2-3 points or more hence why hamley play 3-4 U18 a week

What sort of an opportunity does a colt think he deserves? 3-4 U/18's? I counted six players that had -1 next to their name when we last played Hamley and 2 of them hardly saw game time.

[OnSong]

i know it as FACT because the kid contacted me asking if i knew of any clubs wanting a -1 point U17 player and had the club that i had lined up for him been a bit more pro-active they would have got Nik to offset that clubs recent BIG 3 point signing, time will tell if the kid remains at Two Wells

So he thinks he can just walk into an A grade team? Bugs always gives a kid a chance if he deserves it. Just can't expect to play A grade when your not out of colts yet

I did not say that, he is starved of opportunity to play in the A grade at Two Wells which cant be helped with the cattle you currently have for instance someone of his ability would be snapped up by a hamley and be playing regular A grade games (or more than he currently has) to offset their imports that attract 2-3 points or more hence why hamley play 3-4 U18 a week

What sort of an opportunity does a colt think he deserves? 3-4 U/18's? I counted six players that had -1 next to their name when we last played Hamley and 2 of them hardly saw game time.

At what point would you count other team's under 18 players?

[mighty hounds]

At what point would you count other team's under 18 players?

I was stretching and decided to have a read of their team sheet. Do you have a problem with that?

[OnSong]

At what point would you count other team's under 18 players?

I was stretching and decided to have a read of their team sheet. Do you have a problem with that?

Depends what you were stretching.

[Freaky Tah]

im guessing you never played an A grade game whist you were U18 MH going by these ridiculous staments so tell me when is a U18 player going to play A grade that is good enough to do so whos even a better player than you

[stork]

At what point would you count other team's under 18 players?

I was stretching and decided to have a read of their team sheet. Do you have a problem with that?

Which team HB or Two Wells had all these -1 pointers? Here are the sporting pulse team sheets. I am not sure who is a -1 from either side. If you can please explain, that would be great.

Hamley Bridge

16 R. Appleton
39 R. Darwin
32 D. Ellis
9 N. Flynn
18 M. Greenwood
5 S. Gregory
19 S. Hanson
23 T. Haseldine
10 K. Heberle
24 L. McCabe
30 A. Natt
29 D. Norman
36 L. Norman
6 A. Parsons
2 L. Slok
22 J. Sullivan
11 C. Taylor
7 V. Thach
27 W. Thach
20 C. Young
17 J. Zanandrea

Two Wells

6 M. Abdilla
16 L. Allmond
19 S. Barker
26 S. Feast
3 E. Fetherstonhaugh
20 B. Fitzgerald
4 L. Franklin
11 A. Hardiman
17 D. Hardiman
7 B. Hart
8 J. Hart
44 T. Hines
18 K. Leighton
15 R. McDONALD
1 J. Morrison
24 S. O`Brien
22 A. Pontt
5 N. Seccafien
21 B. Slattery
14 B. Spiteri
2 S. Wise

[mighty hounds]

im guessing you never played an A grade game whist you were U18 MH going by these ridiculous staments so tell me when is a U18 player going to play A grade that is good enough to do so whos even a better player than you

I'm pretty sure I gave my opinion on the matter which another Two Wells poster agreed with. At the end of the day if the coach thinks your good enough you'll be picked and he has been given the opportunity last year and this year. Are you the informant? Oh I did play a few games before I turned 18.

[moses]

Seems like the difference between Two Wells and Hamley Bridge is that at Two Wells you earn your spot if your still a colt and at Hamley your just there to help the club play their money hungry recruits.

[Skip Dimes]

Not that I agree with this situation, but I'll give him some credit, at least the kid wants to play Senior footy... possibly not going the best way about it. I know a place around where the best Colts are being protected from playing senior footy, despite repeated calls to play from senior Coach, and players.

[Swamp Donkey]

Not that I agree with this situation, but I'll give him some credit, at least the kid wants to play Senior footy... possibly not going the best way about it. I know a place around where the best Colts are being protected from playing senior footy, despite repeated calls to play from senior Coach, and players.

Thats a totally different situation, especially when you speak of such young lads. I think its reasonable if a parent thinks his 15 or 16 year old son isn't quite ready for the rigours of senior football. If a kid plays when he is not ready, it can destroy his confidence. I don't think that should be jepeordised just to cover a lack of quality/depth in the senior squad.

[Nocyrils]

Seems like the difference between Two Wells and Hamley Bridge is that at Two Wells you earn your spot if your still a colt and at Hamley your just there to help the club play their money hungry recruits.

You were blessed with zero skill hence why your not worth a cracker hence while you have a crack a blokes getting payed. haterz gonna hate.