HFL Division 1 (Central)

[redsox]

So true Hillscrow. Some clubs are charging modified kids (8 year old) over $100 to play.

[hillscrow]

So true Hillscrow. Some clubs are charging modified kids (8 year old) over $100 to play.

Look, comparatively, we have a 10 year old who has taken to Soccer and giving that a crack this year (in the hills) and the subs are $620...you get shorts, couple pairs of socks and 2 playing tops but only 1 training session...certainly costly, so $100 odd for footy is ok BUT the clubs need to make the senior players accountable...loss of premiership points hurt...no need to fine as clubs find it hard enough to raise funds...hit them on the score board...Echunga lost an opportunity to grow their Junior programme a few years ago when there was a fantastic j
Junior Director...guy they had past 2 or 3 crucified it...not sure how much support there is from the senior coaching side of things either.

[From The Outer]

Onkas were pretty ordinary against a young undermanned Imperials side Friday night. Only a trial but would have thought they would have been far more competitive.

[tedbullpit]

I heard today Echunga are really struggling for junior players and in particular Under 13's. Wonder what move the HFL will make if they happen to forfeit a game in the first week or two?

Have also heard this. For the sake of the whole HFL I hope its not true.
Also believe that Lofty have lost 60 odd kids due to the relegation & none have gone to other Hills clubs. They also may withdraw their S/C as the kids have said they wont play in a 5 team comp.

Oh my God! Lets pull Echunga out of central division because they can't field an Under 13's side. Why we are at it why don't we pull Uraidla out of central division too as they're struggling for Under 13 numbers. FFS people have you guys lost the plot? Since when do junior numbers determine the status of a club at A grade level? You've all got rocks in your head.

Its only the part of the HFL by laws, maybe you're right maybe clubs shouldn't have to abide by the rules.
Echunga & Uraidla are struggling to field numbers in all junior grades, not just U13's. In your opinion, what should happen if they have to forfeit a J/C or S/C game.

So it's in the bylaws that if a club can't field an Under 13 side then they should be thrown out of central division into country division is it? If that's the case it's a wonder the HFL is the laughing stock of country footy. The Country division is the biggest basket case league in Australia hands down.

[cracka]

Its only the part of the HFL by laws, maybe you're right maybe clubs shouldn't have to abide by the rules.
Echunga & Uraidla are struggling to field numbers in all junior grades, not just U13's. In your opinion, what should happen if they have to forfeit a J/C or S/C game.

So it's in the bylaws that if a club can't field an Under 13 side then they should be thrown out of central division into country division is it? If that's the case it's a wonder the HFL is the laughing stock of country footy. The Country division is the biggest basket case league in Australia hands down.

Well how about you put your hand up, join the HFL board & fix the Country division. Have you got any ideas on how to fix it, if so please share.
I'll ask again, what should happen if a central div club has to forfeit a J/C or S/C game.

[tedbullpit]

Its only the part of the HFL by laws, maybe you're right maybe clubs shouldn't have to abide by the rules.
Echunga & Uraidla are struggling to field numbers in all junior grades, not just U13's. In your opinion, what should happen if they have to forfeit a J/C or S/C game.

So it's in the bylaws that if a club can't field an Under 13 side then they should be thrown out of central division into country division is it? If that's the case it's a wonder the HFL is the laughing stock of country footy. The Country division is the biggest basket case league in Australia hands down.

Well how about you put your hand up, join the HFL board & fix the Country division. Have you got any ideas on how to fix it, if so please share.
I'll ask again, what should happen if a central div club has to forfeit a J/C or S/C game.

Cracka - this a forum; a platform for expressing an opinion. Why is it that you and all the other knuckleheads on here, when you hear something you don't like use the defence 'why don't you join the board?'

If a club has to forfeit a JC of SC game what should it have to do with the A grade of the club?

Having said that: -
I think the time has come for the junior competitions to be independent of the Senior competition. The HFL need to have a look at the demographic of it's participant clubs. For the majority of struggling clubs there are no new families or young families moving into country towns; It's quite the opposite. Oldies looking for the quiet Hills life are the primary demographic these days. If a town and it's surrounding towns do not have sufficient numbers of kids in its town what is it supposed to do?
The HFL can no longer sustain 13's, JC & SC. I think instead of 3 competitions, merge these into two - Under 14.5's and Under 17s. Yeah you are going to have 12 year olds playing against 14 year olds but just remember we all did the same growing up and we all came through it ok.
Also I'm well aware of the same volunteers helping with senior and junior competitions. That is a problem. Parents have to become more involved but that is easier said than done. I can offer no solutions there.
The HFL need to accept that they can no longer effectively run a junior competition. Why should a clubs senior team be punished because they struggle to fill an Under 13's team? That is just out and out ridiculous.
Treat the junior and senior comps separately. Then with the senior competition have a promotion/relegation system - Bottom 2 down in Central, Top 2 up in Country.

[cracka]

Why is it when you hear something you don't like you resort to name calling. You're right, this is a forum for expressing an opinion, but if you truly feel a change has to happen then joining your clubs committee or the HFL board is the only way to do that, not through a forum.
Since you haven't stated which HFL club you're affiliated with if you are with one at all I'll let you know that it is the clubs that don't want the juniors run separate to the seniors, not the HFL. In fact the HFL put the question to the clubs & were unanimously vetoed.
Also it is an AFL policy of only having 2 year age gaps.
The HFL run the junior program quite well, if you don't believe me, come to a meeting & see for yourself how much it is the CLUBS that make the rules.

[the wonder elephant]

Why is it when you hear something you don't like you resort to name calling. You're right, this is a forum for expressing an opinion, but if you truly feel a change has to happen then joining your clubs committee or the HFL board is the only way to do that, not through a forum.
Since you haven't stated which HFL club you're affiliated with if you are with one at all I'll let you know that it is the clubs that don't want the juniors run separate to the seniors, not the HFL. In fact the HFL put the question to the clubs & were unanimously vetoed.
Also it is an AFL policy of only having 2 year age gaps.
The HFL run the junior program quite well, if you don't believe me, come to a meeting & see for yourself how much it is the CLUBS that make the rules.

think you will find Ted is from Uris mate .

[cracka]

Why is it when you hear something you don't like you resort to name calling. You're right, this is a forum for expressing an opinion, but if you truly feel a change has to happen then joining your clubs committee or the HFL board is the only way to do that, not through a forum.
Since you haven't stated which HFL club you're affiliated with if you are with one at all I'll let you know that it is the clubs that don't want the juniors run separate to the seniors, not the HFL. In fact the HFL put the question to the clubs & were unanimously vetoed.
Also it is an AFL policy of only having 2 year age gaps.
The HFL run the junior program quite well, if you don't believe me, come to a meeting & see for yourself how much it is the CLUBS that make the rules.

think you will find Ted is from Uris mate .

Makes sense now why he is so against juniors being included in the equation.

[no1rangler]

no surprises with Echunga struggling to fill junior numbers. HFL denied application to div 1 originally then div 1 clubs voted them back in. Make ya bed ya sleep in it. Simple.

[cracka]

no surprises with Echunga struggling to fill junior numbers. HFL denied application to div 1 originally then div 1 clubs voted them back in. Make ya bed ya sleep in it. Simple.

Think you will find it was mostly country div clubs & only some central div clubs that voted them in. Result was 12 to 8 in favour of Echungas appeal.

[the_grinch]

Why don't we hold off on relegating Echunga and Uraidla until they actually do start to forfeit games this year.

[locky801]

Watched Ironbank today and I must say I was pretty impressed play a great style of Footy good to watch.

Number 3 for them is very handy.

Have to agree Carey, certainly gave us a touch-up, lot of Jarman type football in the brand they played but very tough on the opposing player with the ball

McGahey and Pearson add alot

[Dutchy]

Have to question the HFL and their development of footy in the Hills area, nearby in the SFL there are clubs turning junior players away or having waiting lists as they are full.

[cracka]

Have to question the HFL and their development of footy in the Hills area, nearby in the SFL there are clubs turning junior players away or having waiting lists as they are full.

Yeah but there's also clubs struggling to field juniors as well. Plus no SFL clubs have populations of only 400 to get their players from. Not quite comparing apples with apples there.

[the wonder elephant]

Have to question the HFL and their development of footy in the Hills area, nearby in the SFL there are clubs turning junior players away or having waiting lists as they are full.

send them to ironbank mate not to far away !

[chopper7]

Any results and details from the weekends trails?

[lovethefooty]

Hahndorf played a 6 quarter trial against Seaton Ramblers.
difficult to get a gauge as their was a lot of switching and changing of the groups.

For the record Hahndorf won, but Seaton finished very strongly

[grasshopper22]

Not much talk on here boys, whose got info on trail games in the coming weeks?

I believe Uradlia play Willunga this coming Saturday and Meningie the one after.

[Dutchy]

Have to question the HFL and their development of footy in the Hills area, nearby in the SFL there are clubs turning junior players away or having waiting lists as they are full.

Yeah but there's also clubs struggling to field juniors as well. Plus no SFL clubs have populations of only 400 to get their players from. Not quite comparing apples with apples there.

Sure population in some towns is an issue but SFL clubs have to deal with some clubs being only 2-3 kms apart, I know there are 130 kids in Under 12's this season between Happy Valley and Flaggy.

Im also aware of many families that live closer to HFL clubs but travel to SFL clubs for their kids to play.