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Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:35 am
by Bluedemon
Down the Hill wrote:First game was in the A grade in Round 12. Didn't play Round 13. Broadview C grade received a forfeit in Round 14 and they put him on the Team Sheet which is dodgy as anything but because he didn't play Round 13 then the rules probably can't prevent a club from doing it. Plays A grade Round 15 and cops a 3 game suspension for striking which means he finishes the minor round on 3 games and 1 game short of finals qualification.

Not sure about the rest of you but I'm thinking stiff bikkies. You bring a guy in for the last 7 games to replace a mercenary so you were already rolling the dice with getting 4 games into him. You then pull a swifty with the Round 14 situation so he's really only played 2 games. Broadview's heavy recruiting of high profile players suggests they were very determined to get promoted to Division 1. It seems that determination has now turned to desperation.


Technically an A grader can drop down to play C's the following week, there is nothing in the rules that prevents this

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:42 am
by jo172
Yungmuney wrote:
jo172 wrote::shock:



Just casually scrolling through the days court listings for something to do? Lol

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Better than the women's weekly gossip pages.

As an aside it was one of the most disappointing days of the former Payneham Barman's life when the Advertiser stopped publishing the cause list on this basis. Loved nothing more than to find a name he recognised and speculate about their problems.

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:45 am
by Trader
jo172 wrote:Also if you compare the incident to the two other strikes that got 4 weeks and 3 weeks respectively that night at the tribunal seems Jesse got off pretty lightly.

Could be be careful what you wish for, if decision is quashed and remitted to the Tribunal a different tribunal might take the view its a 5-6 weeker


Anyone know the time-stamp?

Edit, found it. 62 minute mark.

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:52 am
by The Bedge
Bluedemon wrote:Technically an A grader can drop down to play C's the following week, there is nothing in the rules that prevents this

Close.. but not quite true - if the side above had a bye, then they can't drop down if they played in that grade the week before (not that Broadies had a bye.. just sayin')

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:58 am
by Jimmy_041
Yungmuney wrote:
jo172 wrote::shock:



Just casually scrolling through the days court listings for something to do? Lol


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Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:05 pm
by Down the Hill
Bluedemon wrote:
Down the Hill wrote:First game was in the A grade in Round 12. Didn't play Round 13. Broadview C grade received a forfeit in Round 14 and they put him on the Team Sheet which is dodgy as anything but because he didn't play Round 13 then the rules probably can't prevent a club from doing it. Plays A grade Round 15 and cops a 3 game suspension for striking which means he finishes the minor round on 3 games and 1 game short of finals qualification.

Not sure about the rest of you but I'm thinking stiff bikkies. You bring a guy in for the last 7 games to replace a mercenary so you were already rolling the dice with getting 4 games into him. You then pull a swifty with the Round 14 situation so he's really only played 2 games. Broadview's heavy recruiting of high profile players suggests they were very determined to get promoted to Division 1. It seems that determination has now turned to desperation.


Technically an A grader can drop down to play C's the following week, there is nothing in the rules that prevents this


Yes I do realise that and we have had A grade lads who couldn't play A or B grade due to work or some other commitment but have still played C grade in the early time slot. But the key word there is 'played'. Pretty sure White wasn't playing any grade that day if there was no forfeit by the Unley C grade. But rules are rules and if they can be worked to your advantage then so be it. However the terms integrity and moral compass spring to mind.

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:33 pm
by hollywood7477
The story was on channel 7. No result yet on the matter.

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:52 pm
by redyellow&blue
Down the Hill wrote: However the terms integrity and moral compass spring to mind.


Not the Teams.

The whole clubs integrity.

Some questionable things been going on down at the tigers.

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:01 pm
by Sticks28
redyellow&blue wrote:
Down the Hill wrote: However the terms integrity and moral compass spring to mind.


Not the Teams.

The whole clubs integrity.

Some questionable things been going on down at the tigers.


Care to explain? Can’t leave us with that last sentence without explaining further!!

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:09 pm
by jo172
Contract being read into evidence a brave choice

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:32 pm
by Dutchy
A former AFL player has taken his three match ban for elbowing an opposing player to the Supreme Court in a desperate bid to be eligible for the finals of an amateur football league.

Jesse White was suspended for three games for striking an opposing player while playing for Broadview in the Division Two competition of the SA Amateur Football League.

He has already served sat out two of the games, but if he sits out the third, the final game of the season this Saturday – he will be left ineligible for the finals.

Mr White played 280 games across his 13 year career which included stints with both the AFL and VFL for Collingwood.

Sam Abbott QC, for Mr White, told Supreme Court Auxiliary Justice Sydney Tilmouth his client was applying to have the decision of the league’s disciplinary tribunal quashed.

Mr Abbott said Mr White was denied procedural fairness when the Tribunal took into account a disciplinary history sourced from a website which showed the former Collingwood Magpies and Sydney Swans player had been fined for misconduct.

Mr White had told the tribunal he had no previous disciplinary issues and when shown the new documents said he had no knowledge of the fines.

“These were not allegations which bought him before a tribunal, they were fines which may very well have been paid by the club without Mr White’s knowledge,” Mr Abbott said.

“Put in criminal parlances it is like a record of previous convictions was produced before sentence and the accused did not agree with them but he was sentenced anyway.”

In an affidavit read partially to the court, Mr White adamantly denied paying any fines for misconduct.

Mr Abbott said the tribunal incorrectly concluded that Mr White had been lying about the previous incidents and refused to suspend any of the punishment.

Because of the success of Broadview this season, Mr White is standing to lose at least two match fees if he misses the finals.

Mr Abbott asked the court to overturn the initial ban and remit it back to the tribunal for another decision.

Paul d’Assumpcao, for SAAFL, said asked the court to dismiss the application – saying that even if the previous misconduct had been taken into account, it would not have made a difference to the ban.

“Even if there was a hiccup along the way, it would not have changed the outcome,” he said.

“The decision maker does not need to give a running commentary and the point about the previous misconduct was not taken any further and they did not deliberate on it.”

Justice Tilmouth will hand down his decision on Thursday afternoon.

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:33 pm
by Dutchy
It was a fair tackle to bring him to ground

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:20 pm
by Footy Chick
Dutchy wrote:It was a fair tackle to bring him to ground


Its the elbow to the face afterwards that was the issue

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:50 pm
by Senor Moto Gadili
Footy Chick wrote:
Dutchy wrote:It was a fair tackle to bring him to ground


Its the elbow to the face afterwards that was the issue

Exactly the sort of act the league has been striving to stamp out. There have been about 8 players found guilty of offences with a similar grading .... Striking/Intentional/High/Low and most got 3 + (1). So, 3 for White is quite generous I believe.

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:54 pm
by LaughingKookaburra
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:
Dutchy wrote:It was a fair tackle to bring him to ground


Its the elbow to the face afterwards that was the issue

Exactly the sort of act the league has been striving to stamp out. There have been about 8 players found guilty of offences with a similar grading .... Striking/Intentional/High/Low and most got 3 + (1). So, 3 for White is quite generous I believe.


I love the social media comments from blokes calling it “Soft” and “Hitting his shoulder”. Throwing an elbow at an unsuspecting bloke of the ground is a shit house act.

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:00 pm
by Armchair expert
Todays Case List
Case 1. Murder
Case 2. Attempted Murder
Case 3. Guy wants to play football
Case 4. Domestic Violence

I mean seriously what a waste of the courts time

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:06 pm
by Senor Moto Gadili
Armchair expert wrote:Todays Case List
Case 1. Murder
Case 2. Attempted Murder
Case 3. Guy wants to play football
Case 4. Domestic Violence

I mean seriously what a waste of the courts time

.... but, there's two match fees at stake here!

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:52 pm
by Dutchy
Footy Chick wrote:
Dutchy wrote:It was a fair tackle to bring him to ground


Its the elbow to the face afterwards that was the issue


Understand that, just saying it was a great tackle on a guy that size

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:37 am
by bubba love
It reeks of desperation doesn’t it, all a bit embarrassing by broadies

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:36 am
by hollywood7477
Dutchy wrote:A former AFL player has taken his three match ban for elbowing an opposing player to the Supreme Court in a desperate bid to be eligible for the finals of an amateur football league.

Jesse White was suspended for three games for striking an opposing player while playing for Broadview in the Division Two competition of the SA Amateur Football League.

He has already served sat out two of the games, but if he sits out the third, the final game of the season this Saturday – he will be left ineligible for the finals.

Mr White played 280 games across his 13 year career which included stints with both the AFL and VFL for Collingwood.

Sam Abbott QC, for Mr White, told Supreme Court Auxiliary Justice Sydney Tilmouth his client was applying to have the decision of the league’s disciplinary tribunal quashed.

Mr Abbott said Mr White was denied procedural fairness when the Tribunal took into account a disciplinary history sourced from a website which showed the former Collingwood Magpies and Sydney Swans player had been fined for misconduct.

Mr White had told the tribunal he had no previous disciplinary issues and when shown the new documents said he had no knowledge of the fines.

“These were not allegations which bought him before a tribunal, they were fines which may very well have been paid by the club without Mr White’s knowledge,” Mr Abbott said.

“Put in criminal parlances it is like a record of previous convictions was produced before sentence and the accused did not agree with them but he was sentenced anyway.”

In an affidavit read partially to the court, Mr White adamantly denied paying any fines for misconduct.

Mr Abbott said the tribunal incorrectly concluded that Mr White had been lying about the previous incidents and refused to suspend any of the punishment.

Because of the success of Broadview this season, Mr White is standing to lose at least two match fees if he misses the finals.

Mr Abbott asked the court to overturn the initial ban and remit it back to the tribunal for another decision.

Paul d’Assumpcao, for SAAFL, said asked the court to dismiss the application – saying that even if the previous misconduct had been taken into account, it would not have made a difference to the ban.

“Even if there was a hiccup along the way, it would not have changed the outcome,” he said.

“The decision maker does not need to give a running commentary and the point about the previous misconduct was not taken any further and they did not deliberate on it.”

Justice Tilmouth will hand down his decision on Thursday afternoon.


What’s the salary cap per player??? I thought it was $400 a game I could be completely wrong. So should the league investigate Broadview for salary cap breaches if I’m correct. They must have some good brown paper bags