by marbles » Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:28 am
by Fricky » Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:32 am
Phantom Gossiper wrote:After long consideration i've decided - stuff the struggling clubs..
If clubs fall over - as sad as it would be - it just means the other clubs in the area should in theory become stronger. Stronger clubs make for a stronger competition and easier to attract new people to play.
Or get rid of the 'C divisions and go back to having D9 and D10 north/south
by jo172 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:33 am
marbles wrote:over the past 5 to 10 years has there been struggling clubs who hit rock bottom were on a knife edge and managed to find their feet and now are in in full flight??? or have most once they get to this point generally dissipate? who can list them
by jo172 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:34 am
Suri wrote:Phantom Gossiper wrote:After long consideration i've decided - stuff the struggling clubs..
If clubs fall over - as sad as it would be - it just means the other clubs in the area should in theory become stronger. Stronger clubs make for a stronger competition and easier to attract new people to play.
Or get rid of the 'C divisions and go back to having D9 and D10 north/south
I tend to agree with this, just hope that it never happens to your own club.
Clubs have amalgamated in the past which have created stronger clubs - Portland, Port Districts, Goodwood have all come from amalgamations and although it would have been an emotional and difficult process they are better off now. Wouldn't it be better to have a club like Pt Districts who still celebrate the history of your old club, Semaphore Central or Exeter, than have no club at all?
I think some clubs will be able to bounce back and become strong again, but perhaps other struggling clubs need to look strongly at amalgamating.
by Fricky » Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:50 am
jo172 wrote:Suri wrote:Phantom Gossiper wrote:After long consideration i've decided - stuff the struggling clubs..
If clubs fall over - as sad as it would be - it just means the other clubs in the area should in theory become stronger. Stronger clubs make for a stronger competition and easier to attract new people to play.
Or get rid of the 'C divisions and go back to having D9 and D10 north/south
I tend to agree with this, just hope that it never happens to your own club.
Clubs have amalgamated in the past which have created stronger clubs - Portland, Port Districts, Goodwood have all come from amalgamations and although it would have been an emotional and difficult process they are better off now. Wouldn't it be better to have a club like Pt Districts who still celebrate the history of your old club, Semaphore Central or Exeter, than have no club at all?
I think some clubs will be able to bounce back and become strong again, but perhaps other struggling clubs need to look strongly at amalgamating.
In Div 1 and 2 alone Goodwood, Henley, Port Districts, Portland, PHOS Camden, PNU and SMOSH West Lakes have all been products of mergers and amalgamations in living memory. Take out the Old Scholars sides and I suspect it would be the majority of clubs in the upper divisions?
Also, intriguingly, there doesn't seem to be a merged club (Unley/Mercedes isn't a merger) below Div 2. Is it possible there's something in this?
by Mr Beefy » Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:11 am
jo172 wrote:Suri wrote:Phantom Gossiper wrote:After long consideration i've decided - stuff the struggling clubs..
If clubs fall over - as sad as it would be - it just means the other clubs in the area should in theory become stronger. Stronger clubs make for a stronger competition and easier to attract new people to play.
Or get rid of the 'C divisions and go back to having D9 and D10 north/south
I tend to agree with this, just hope that it never happens to your own club.
Clubs have amalgamated in the past which have created stronger clubs - Portland, Port Districts, Goodwood have all come from amalgamations and although it would have been an emotional and difficult process they are better off now. Wouldn't it be better to have a club like Pt Districts who still celebrate the history of your old club, Semaphore Central or Exeter, than have no club at all?
I think some clubs will be able to bounce back and become strong again, but perhaps other struggling clubs need to look strongly at amalgamating.
In Div 1 and 2 alone Goodwood, Henley, Port Districts, Portland, PHOS Camden, PNU and SMOSH West Lakes have all been products of mergers and amalgamations in living memory. Take out the Old Scholars sides and I suspect it would be the majority of clubs in the upper divisions?
Also, intriguingly, there doesn't seem to be a merged club (Unley/Mercedes isn't a merger) below Div 2. Is it possible there's something in this?
by FOURTH ESTATE » Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:15 am
by jo172 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:19 am
FOURTH ESTATE wrote:Gaza
Tea Tree Gully
Salisbury North
Walkerville
Broadview
Flinders Park
Gepps Cross
All in D1 & D2, stand alone clubs that never merged
6 Old Scholar Clubs in those grades and 7 mergered or amalgamated as well
As stand alones we do all right
by Cohiba » Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:20 am
Suri wrote:jo172 wrote:Suri wrote:Phantom Gossiper wrote:After long consideration i've decided - stuff the struggling clubs..
If clubs fall over - as sad as it would be - it just means the other clubs in the area should in theory become stronger. Stronger clubs make for a stronger competition and easier to attract new people to play.
Or get rid of the 'C divisions and go back to having D9 and D10 north/south
I tend to agree with this, just hope that it never happens to your own club.
Clubs have amalgamated in the past which have created stronger clubs - Portland, Port Districts, Goodwood have all come from amalgamations and although it would have been an emotional and difficult process they are better off now. Wouldn't it be better to have a club like Pt Districts who still celebrate the history of your old club, Semaphore Central or Exeter, than have no club at all?
I think some clubs will be able to bounce back and become strong again, but perhaps other struggling clubs need to look strongly at amalgamating.
In Div 1 and 2 alone Goodwood, Henley, Port Districts, Portland, PHOS Camden, PNU and SMOSH West Lakes have all been products of mergers and amalgamations in living memory. Take out the Old Scholars sides and I suspect it would be the majority of clubs in the upper divisions?
Also, intriguingly, there doesn't seem to be a merged club (Unley/Mercedes isn't a merger) below Div 2. Is it possible there's something in this?
As PG said, you would think merging with another club will most likely make you stronger as it boosts you player numbers and recruitment avenues. Something for a few clubs can think about.
by marbles » Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:28 am
by Haynzy » Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:24 am
marbles wrote:so there is hope for mitchell park, angle vale, flinders uni to survive? or unless they inject some revenue into some cattle, are their days inevitably numbered?
also i think its crap that a powerhouse club like flinders park get to just randomly drop their cgrade, they should be made to fight it out and endure the sludge at the bottom of the ladder.
kilburn too, they dug the hole their in, make em stay in div 3 and a bye in reserves. no matter what happens theyre set for relegation to div 4 next year and if they cant keep the club alive by summer 2015, withdraw the affiliation totally and bring 3 clubs up to div 4 next year
by zedman » Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:28 am
marbles wrote:so there is hope for mitchell park, angle vale, flinders uni to survive? or unless they inject some revenue into some cattle, are their days inevitably numbered?
also i think its crap that a powerhouse club like flinders park get to just randomly drop their cgrade, they should be made to fight it out and endure the sludge at the bottom of the ladder.
kilburn too, they dug the hole their in, make em stay in div 3 and a bye in reserves. no matter what happens theyre set for relegation to div 4 next year and if they cant keep the club alive by summer 2015, withdraw the affiliation totally and bring 3 clubs up to div 4 next year
by marbles » Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:49 pm
by Look Good In Leather » Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:19 pm
Cohiba wrote:Suri wrote:jo172 wrote:Suri wrote:I tend to agree with this, just hope that it never happens to your own club.
Clubs have amalgamated in the past which have created stronger clubs - Portland, Port Districts, Goodwood have all come from amalgamations and although it would have been an emotional and difficult process they are better off now. Wouldn't it be better to have a club like Pt Districts who still celebrate the history of your old club, Semaphore Central or Exeter, than have no club at all?
I think some clubs will be able to bounce back and become strong again, but perhaps other struggling clubs need to look strongly at amalgamating.
In Div 1 and 2 alone Goodwood, Henley, Port Districts, Portland, PHOS Camden, PNU and SMOSH West Lakes have all been products of mergers and amalgamations in living memory. Take out the Old Scholars sides and I suspect it would be the majority of clubs in the upper divisions?
Also, intriguingly, there doesn't seem to be a merged club (Unley/Mercedes isn't a merger) below Div 2. Is it possible there's something in this?
As PG said, you would think merging with another club will most likely make you stronger as it boosts you player numbers and recruitment avenues. Something for a few clubs can think about.
Agree. The fact those aforementioned merged Clubs by and large have successful Junior Programs strengthens the argument that to survive as a Club .....mergers are a viable lifeline and are a reality. For some it was a case of merge or die.
by woodublieve12 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:48 pm
Robb_Stark wrote:Mawson Lakes and Pooraka have the same postcode the league should have made them merge ...........regardless of what club you are how much cash you got some of these clubs are just to near eachother and should be forced to merge
Greenacres and gepps cross
Pooraka and mawson lakes
smithfield and elizabeth
north pines and salisbury west
these are just a few i can think of and while people will get there knickers in a knot the future of the game is more important then any of your clubs
by HardenUp » Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:55 pm
jo172 wrote:Suri wrote:Phantom Gossiper wrote:After long consideration i've decided - stuff the struggling clubs..
If clubs fall over - as sad as it would be - it just means the other clubs in the area should in theory become stronger. Stronger clubs make for a stronger competition and easier to attract new people to play.
Or get rid of the 'C divisions and go back to having D9 and D10 north/south
I tend to agree with this, just hope that it never happens to your own club.
Clubs have amalgamated in the past which have created stronger clubs - Portland, Port Districts, Goodwood have all come from amalgamations and although it would have been an emotional and difficult process they are better off now. Wouldn't it be better to have a club like Pt Districts who still celebrate the history of your old club, Semaphore Central or Exeter, than have no club at all?
I think some clubs will be able to bounce back and become strong again, but perhaps other struggling clubs need to look strongly at amalgamating.
In Div 1 and 2 alone Goodwood, Henley, Port Districts, Portland, PHOS Camden, PNU and SMOSH West Lakes have all been products of mergers and amalgamations in living memory. Take out the Old Scholars sides and I suspect it would be the majority of clubs in the upper divisions?
Also, intriguingly, there doesn't seem to be a merged club (Unley/Mercedes isn't a merger) below Div 2. Is it possible there's something in this?
by bandar » Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:58 pm
woodublieve12 wrote:Robb_Stark wrote:Mawson Lakes and Pooraka have the same postcode the league should have made them merge ...........regardless of what club you are how much cash you got some of these clubs are just to near eachother and should be forced to merge
Greenacres and gepps cross
Pooraka and mawson lakes
smithfield and elizabeth
north pines and salisbury west
these are just a few i can think of and while people will get there knickers in a knot the future of the game is more important then any of your clubs
this may the most ridiculous thing i have ever read... "Hey phos/edwarstown/morphies/kenilworth wanna merge with us, we aren't struggling for players and we have done ok the last couple of years, but why not?"....
the history of my club is far to important to throw away because of some clubs struggling.
Please...
by Arch44 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:59 pm
jo172 wrote:marbles wrote:over the past 5 to 10 years has there been struggling clubs who hit rock bottom were on a knife edge and managed to find their feet and now are in in full flight??? or have most once they get to this point generally dissipate? who can list them
Smithfield was on the brink after the initial walkout to Angle Vale.
2009 was supposed to be North Pines last year (from memory)
From memory West Croydon may have also teetered on the edge for a while?
These clubs are more likely the exception than the rule though.
by bandar » Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:02 pm
HardenUp wrote:jo172 wrote:Suri wrote:Phantom Gossiper wrote:After long consideration i've decided - stuff the struggling clubs..
If clubs fall over - as sad as it would be - it just means the other clubs in the area should in theory become stronger. Stronger clubs make for a stronger competition and easier to attract new people to play.
Or get rid of the 'C divisions and go back to having D9 and D10 north/south
I tend to agree with this, just hope that it never happens to your own club.
Clubs have amalgamated in the past which have created stronger clubs - Portland, Port Districts, Goodwood have all come from amalgamations and although it would have been an emotional and difficult process they are better off now. Wouldn't it be better to have a club like Pt Districts who still celebrate the history of your old club, Semaphore Central or Exeter, than have no club at all?
I think some clubs will be able to bounce back and become strong again, but perhaps other struggling clubs need to look strongly at amalgamating.
In Div 1 and 2 alone Goodwood, Henley, Port Districts, Portland, PHOS Camden, PNU and SMOSH West Lakes have all been products of mergers and amalgamations in living memory. Take out the Old Scholars sides and I suspect it would be the majority of clubs in the upper divisions?
Also, intriguingly, there doesn't seem to be a merged club (Unley/Mercedes isn't a merger) below Div 2. Is it possible there's something in this?
Didn't Kenilworth merge with another team back in the day?
Edwardstown, I know aren't in SAAFL anymore, merged with another team to obtain entry back into the SAAFL - stayed below Div 2 until joining SFL
by Yank Man » Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:05 pm
HardenUp wrote:jo172 wrote:Suri wrote:Phantom Gossiper wrote:After long consideration i've decided - stuff the struggling clubs..
If clubs fall over - as sad as it would be - it just means the other clubs in the area should in theory become stronger. Stronger clubs make for a stronger competition and easier to attract new people to play.
Or get rid of the 'C divisions and go back to having D9 and D10 north/south
I tend to agree with this, just hope that it never happens to your own club.
Clubs have amalgamated in the past which have created stronger clubs - Portland, Port Districts, Goodwood have all come from amalgamations and although it would have been an emotional and difficult process they are better off now. Wouldn't it be better to have a club like Pt Districts who still celebrate the history of your old club, Semaphore Central or Exeter, than have no club at all?
I think some clubs will be able to bounce back and become strong again, but perhaps other struggling clubs need to look strongly at amalgamating.
In Div 1 and 2 alone Goodwood, Henley, Port Districts, Portland, PHOS Camden, PNU and SMOSH West Lakes have all been products of mergers and amalgamations in living memory. Take out the Old Scholars sides and I suspect it would be the majority of clubs in the upper divisions?
Also, intriguingly, there doesn't seem to be a merged club (Unley/Mercedes isn't a merger) below Div 2. Is it possible there's something in this?
Didn't Kenilworth merge with another team back in the day?
Edwardstown, I know aren't in SAAFL anymore, merged with another team to obtain entry back into the SAAFL - stayed below Div 2 until joining SFL
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