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Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:07 pm
by Freo HeaveHo
You have 100% lost the plot Morell

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:13 pm
by Look Good In Leather
morell wrote:Y'all realise that Cardinal Directions are measured in degrees right? Ovals are not oriented just one way or another...


Booney moved the discussion to Ordinal Directions, the discussion has progressed

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:14 pm
by Senor Moto Gadili
morell wrote:The vernacular everyone is using "North, South, East and West" are known as Carindal directions - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_direction

The directional names are also routinely and very conveniently associated with the degrees of rotation in the unit circle:

North (N): 0° = 360°
East (E): 90°
South (S): 180°
West (W): 270°

In other words, you're all being imprecise with both your language and measurements. :D

So Mitchell Park runs 360° - 180° and Lindblom Park is North - South?

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:16 pm
by morell
Freo HeaveHo wrote:You have 100% lost the plot Morell
Hahah, how so!?

To determine if an oval is either North/South or East/West you need to first take the centreline of the oval to get an angle, then determine where that angle sits within the ranges of the unit circle and then, which of the Cardinal Direction quadrants it lies in...

It's year 10 geometry people! Am I the only one that ever used a full circle protractor?

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:20 pm
by human_torpedo
Unrelated note.. IF lose to BOS this week, they face playing Lockleys in round 18 then again the following week.. Rosies finding form at the right time of the year, WC flying and BOS have beaten all comers.. If they dispose of IF this week blows the top 4 wide open, can IF turn it around? Exciting finish to the season and a potentially enthralling finals series ahead..

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:22 pm
by Footy Chick
what did the constipated mathematician do?

worked it out with his compass :-)

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:22 pm
by Look Good In Leather
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
morell wrote:The vernacular everyone is using "North, South, East and West" are known as Carindal directions - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_direction

The directional names are also routinely and very conveniently associated with the degrees of rotation in the unit circle:

North (N): 0° = 360°
East (E): 90°
South (S): 180°
West (W): 270°

In other words, you're all being imprecise with both your language and measurements. :D

So Mitchell Park runs 360° - 180° and Lindblom Park is North - South?


I think Mitchell Park would be more 358°/178° and Lindblom Park 315°/135°

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:27 pm
by morell
here you go, if it helps:

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Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:28 pm
by human_torpedo
Still dont care Morell

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:42 pm
by morell
Well for **** sake, people have been slamming their proverbial slanted foreheads against each other for three pages trying to work out something I could get my 12 year old niece to solve, only trying to help.

If the Oval is between 315 and 45 when you align 0 to North, its a North South Oval. If its between 45 and 135, its an East West Oval.

Houghton, for example, is about 40 degrees, ergo, its a North South Oval. Just, by 5 degrees.

The Oval marbles posted (Seaton?), is about 55 degrees, So it's an East/West Oval. Just, but about 10 degrees.

Rosewater, is about 85 degrees. No prizes for getting that one right...

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:43 pm
by morell
Look Good In Leather wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
morell wrote:The vernacular everyone is using "North, South, East and West" are known as Carindal directions - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_direction

The directional names are also routinely and very conveniently associated with the degrees of rotation in the unit circle:

North (N): 0° = 360°
East (E): 90°
South (S): 180°
West (W): 270°

In other words, you're all being imprecise with both your language and measurements. :D

So Mitchell Park runs 360° - 180° and Lindblom Park is North - South?


I think Mitchell Park would be more 358°/178° and Lindblom Park 315°/135°
Hurray! Someone has passed high school!

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:04 pm
by Q.
Phantom Gossiper wrote:Houghton perhaps a NE-SW like Seaton?
houghton.JPG


What's the green stuff on the oval?

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:07 pm
by Senor Moto Gadili
human_torpedo wrote:Unrelated note.. IF lose to BOS this week, they face playing Lockleys in round 18 then again the following week.. Rosies finding form at the right time of the year, WC flying and BOS have beaten all comers.. If they dispose of IF this week blows the top 4 wide open, can IF turn it around? Exciting finish to the season and a potentially enthralling finals series ahead..

Quite conceivable. Farmers hold about 2% advantage over Rosewater. If Ingle Farm lose by 10 goals and Rosewater win by 10 goals the percentages would be about square after round 17. Either way, if Ingle Farm lose this week it will come down to Ingle Farm's margin over Lockley's v Rosewater's margin over Central United in round 18. The Angle Vale forfeit, which has cost Ingle Farm about 1% might be cost them a double chance.

It is also conceivable that Ingle Farm bounce back, beat BOS and go back to the top of the table.

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:24 pm
by Yank Man
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
human_torpedo wrote:Unrelated note.. IF lose to BOS this week, they face playing Lockleys in round 18 then again the following week.. Rosies finding form at the right time of the year, WC flying and BOS have beaten all comers.. If they dispose of IF this week blows the top 4 wide open, can IF turn it around? Exciting finish to the season and a potentially enthralling finals series ahead..

Quite conceivable. Farmers hold about 2% advantage over Rosewater. If Ingle Farm lose by 10 goals and Rosewater win by 10 goals the percentages would be about square after round 17. Either way, if Ingle Farm lose this week it will come down to Ingle Farm's margin over Lockley's v Rosewater's margin over Central United in round 18. The Angle Vale forfeit, which has cost Ingle Farm about 1% might be cost them a double chance.

It is also conceivable that Ingle Farm bounce back, beat BOS and go back to the top of the table.



It could also depend on the cardinal direction of the BOS oval. :D

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:27 pm
by human_torpedo
Its a red hot battle, with 4 genuine premiership contenders.. I loathe to write a side off and predict an elimination final result, but for sake of conversation I will.. Lets say either Rosies/IF beat Lockleys in the elimination final, then there remains 4 sides who potentially could have all split there games 1-1 in the season, pending results that are still to come.. Its not often you get 4 genuine premiership contenders in a division..

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:49 pm
by Alan
human_torpedo wrote:Its a red hot battle, with 4 genuine premiership contenders.. I loathe to write a side off and predict an elimination final result, but for sake of conversation I will.. Lets say either Rosies/IF beat Lockleys in the elimination final, then there remains 4 sides who potentially could have all split there games 1-1 in the season, pending results that are still to come.. Its not often you get 4 genuine premiership contenders in a division..

When is Schar back ? Maybe Rosies play better without him?

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:05 pm
by Look Good In Leather
morell wrote:Well for **** sake, people have been slamming their proverbial slanted foreheads against each other for three pages trying to work out something I could get my 12 year old niece to solve, only trying to help.

If the Oval is between 315 and 45 when you align 0 to North, its a North South Oval. If its between 45 and 135, its an East West Oval.

Houghton, for example, is about 40 degrees, ergo, its a North South Oval. Just, by 5 degrees.

The Oval marbles posted (Seaton?), is about 55 degrees, So it's an East/West Oval. Just, but about 10 degrees.

Rosewater, is about 85 degrees. No prizes for getting that one right...


Is it measured from Geodetic North, Magnetic North or Grid North?

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:13 pm
by zedman
Alan wrote:
human_torpedo wrote:Its a red hot battle, with 4 genuine premiership contenders.. I loathe to write a side off and predict an elimination final result, but for sake of conversation I will.. Lets say either Rosies/IF beat Lockleys in the elimination final, then there remains 4 sides who potentially could have all split there games 1-1 in the season, pending results that are still to come.. Its not often you get 4 genuine premiership contenders in a division..

When is Schar back ? Maybe Rosies play better without him?


interesting..i think it hurt them last year when he was out injured but it might be different circumstances in 2014..

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:20 pm
by Bombers4EVA
Does it really matter or affect the outcome of any games played on ovals that run north to south, east to west, etc.........????

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:22 pm
by laser
Look Good In Leather wrote:
morell wrote:Well for **** sake, people have been slamming their proverbial slanted foreheads against each other for three pages trying to work out something I could get my 12 year old niece to solve, only trying to help.

If the Oval is between 315 and 45 when you align 0 to North, its a North South Oval. If its between 45 and 135, its an East West Oval.

Houghton, for example, is about 40 degrees, ergo, its a North South Oval. Just, by 5 degrees.

The Oval marbles posted (Seaton?), is about 55 degrees, So it's an East/West Oval. Just, but about 10 degrees.

Rosewater, is about 85 degrees. No prizes for getting that one right...


Is it measured from Geodetic North, Magnetic North or Grid North?


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