CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

[holdy2323]

Probably should've been a requirement for Para Hills this year at least - every man and his dog knew they were in a tough position with players leaving

When a club is in denial, saying "yeah, we'll be fine" after being offered a spot in d7 and then come looking to drop a week out from the season proper, there's not much you can do.

rumour is requested C1

and if it's granted they struggle through this year, have about 30 clearances in next year and start from the bottom. But it's all worth it for a premiership i guess...........

Sour grapes still.
Didn't you guys get a home gf and choke.

[S Demon]

A home GF?

[Minion Master]

I believe they finally asked to be moved but got knocked back, so they'll be playing in D4, or there will be a bye if they fall over.

Why didn't they have to produce a list of current registered players of 55 like some other clubs months before. Everybody on here was aware that they where in trouble but the club didn't think so, time will time but this should have been worked out at least a month before. Is this like other clubs buying a flag then falling over the next year as they over payed what they can afford?

1. It's definitely not about money.
2. From what ive heard its the Chairman who's f##ked up big time.
3. Apparently hired his mate cabbage before last years finals and 4. when bamford won the gf he couldn't get rid of him for obvious reasons.
5. Then bamford pulled the pin about a month after presentations because of family reasons. 6. So the Chairman appointed cabbage without advertising and they would have got a couple of good applications after just winning the gf.
7. Now players have heard all this and walked because cabbage wasn't the right fit. Hardly has a good cv plus been out of coaching for a while.
8. They reinstated the b grade coach from last year. Now all the c graders from last year dont get along with b grade coach so they all walked too.
9. Now chairman is blaming everyone else but him.

1. persistent rumours regarding player payments / promises not being met - so maybe money is an issue
2. correct in that whole committee dropped the ball & suppose the buck rests with the chairman
3. incorrect wasn't hired before finals & they are not mates, nor aquaitenances before the appointment, advertised for b grade & cabbage applied & appointed
4. if GF won bamford would be reappointed if lost they were going to advertise
5. family reasons or got wind that players were leaving and opted out of what was going to be a hard year
6. cabbage was appointed as b grade coach then asked if he would take a grade when bamford pulled the pin correct in that the position wasn't advertised but would have to wonder what candidates would be left around November but not to say there weren't any overlooked
7. players had already left in droves before cabbage was appointed
8. believe plan was bamford stays flick b grade coach as not well liked amongst playing group, bamford goes keep b grade coach, bamford bailed, cabbage appointed from b's to a's & b grade coach reinstated as didn't want to potentially upset the apple cart & lose his partner from treasurers position & correct in that c grade players didn't like him & wouldn't play under him & would rather leave
9. correct in that using cabbage as scape goat for his & committees poor decisions and planning
10. what does all this mean...there up the creek without a paddle due to poor business practices and only have themselves to blame!

[BFG]

Sour grapes still.
Didn't you guys get a home gf and choke.

The series for the year was 2-2. both won one regular season and won one final each. Just so happens that they got over the line in the big one. I'd hardly call that a choke, and it was more of a dig at the teams that have gone down similar paths in the last 3-4 years and now we can seemingly add PH to that list. I don't think i'm alone in thinking that the vast majority of people are sick of players jumping clubs year after year whether it be for financial reasons or otherwise. But maybe loyalist are a dying breed in football these days.

[BFG]

A home GF?

I assume they're referring to the fact it was played at Kenilworth which is just up the road from us. Personally I think the big ground did us a disservice that day and PH would've been stoked to play us on it after getting done by 30 odd points in the semi at CLG which is much smaller. But hey, lets not live in the past.

[The Bedge]

8. believe plan was bamford stays flick b grade coach as not well liked amongst playing group, bamford goes keep b grade coach, bamford bailed, cabbage appointed from b's to a's & b grade coach reinstated as didn't want to potentially upset the apple cart & lose his partner from treasurers position & correct in that c grade players didn't like him & wouldn't play under him & would rather leave!

This alone makes no sense! If the committee identified that the B grade coach wasn't suitable, then regardless of what Bamford did why would you then re-instate him?!

As for not advertising for an A grade coach due to the timing, well that's just a cop out. Club should've done due diligence and gone through the process properly - if no one more suitable presented then give it to Cabbage.. and find another B grade coach. Just never know who may have applied..

A lot of finger pointing going on at PH.. anyone actually willing to take ownership and responsibility for their part in it all?

[Minion Master]

8. believe plan was bamford stays flick b grade coach as not well liked amongst playing group, bamford goes keep b grade coach, bamford bailed, cabbage appointed from b's to a's & b grade coach reinstated as didn't want to potentially upset the apple cart & lose his partner from treasurers position & correct in that c grade players didn't like him & wouldn't play under him & would rather leave!

This alone makes no sense! If the committee identified that the B grade coach wasn't suitable, then regardless of what Bamford did why would you then re-instate him?!

As for not advertising for an A grade coach due to the timing, well that's just a cop out. Club should've done due diligence and gone through the process properly - if no one more suitable presented then give it to Cabbage.. and find another B grade coach. Just never know who may have applied..

A lot of finger pointing going on at PH.. anyone actually willing to take ownership and responsibility for their part in it all?

you are correct and they are all passing the buck like a hot potato but end of the day the committee must ultimately ear the blame

[LaughingKookaburra]

Seems to be a lot of opinions and objections about the way Para Hills is run and the decisions they have made especially from Ingle Farm posters.

From memories IF weren't in a pretty ordinary position not too long ago and haven't been consistently competitive in a division higher than div 6 for 10 seasons. Hardly stable back up when offering your words of wisdom to a club who for what ever reasons are going through tough times.

[The Bedge]

I couldn't care less how Para Hills chooses to run their club or make their decisions, just disappointing a club can fall so far in only a matter of months.

Also if a club is gonna air it's dirty laundry on a public forum then don't whinge when people weigh in their views on the matter..

[LaughingKookaburra]

8. believe plan was bamford stays flick b grade coach as not well liked amongst playing group, bamford goes keep b grade coach, bamford bailed, cabbage appointed from b's to a's & b grade coach reinstated as didn't want to potentially upset the apple cart & lose his partner from treasurers position & correct in that c grade players didn't like him & wouldn't play under him & would rather leave!

This alone makes no sense! If the committee identified that the B grade coach wasn't suitable, then regardless of what Bamford did why would you then re-instate him?!

As for not advertising for an A grade coach due to the timing, well that's just a cop out. Club should've done due diligence and gone through the process properly - if no one more suitable presented then give it to Cabbage.. and find another B grade coach. Just never know who may have applied..

A lot of finger pointing going on at PH.. anyone actually willing to take ownership and responsibility for their part in it all?

Looks like you care to me mate about their decisions made.

[The Bedge]

Lol I don't care.. I'm just bored and this is good to pass time

[Arch44]

I think all this attention towards Para Hills is saying there is a few vultures circling and ready to swoop on the 28 players they have left....

[holdy2323]

I believe they finally asked to be moved but got knocked back, so they'll be playing in D4, or there will be a bye if they fall over.

Why didn't they have to produce a list of current registered players of 55 like some other clubs months before. Everybody on here was aware that they where in trouble but the club didn't think so, time will time but this should have been worked out at least a month before. Is this like other clubs buying a flag then falling over the next year as they over payed what they can afford?

1. It's definitely not about money.
2. From what ive heard its the Chairman who's f##ked up big time.
3. Apparently hired his mate cabbage before last years finals and 4. when bamford won the gf he couldn't get rid of him for obvious reasons.
5. Then bamford pulled the pin about a month after presentations because of family reasons. 6. So the Chairman appointed cabbage without advertising and they would have got a couple of good applications after just winning the gf.
7. Now players have heard all this and walked because cabbage wasn't the right fit. Hardly has a good cv plus been out of coaching for a while.
8. They reinstated the b grade coach from last year. Now all the c graders from last year dont get along with b grade coach so they all walked too.
9. Now chairman is blaming everyone else but him.[/quot




1. persistent rumours regarding player payments / promises not being met - so maybe money is an issue
2. correct in that whole committee dropped the ball & suppose the buck rests with the chairman
3. incorrect wasn't hired before finals & they are not mates, nor aquaitenances before the appointment, advertised for b grade & cabbage applied & appointed
4. if GF won bamford would be reappointed if lost they were going to advertise
5. family reasons or got wind that players were leaving and opted out of what was going to be a hard year
6. cabbage was appointed as b grade coach then asked if he would take a grade when bamford pulled the pin correct in that the position wasn't advertised but would have to wonder what candidates would be left around November but not to say there weren't any overlooked
7. players had already left in droves before cabbage was appointed
8. believe plan was bamford stays flick b grade coach as not well liked amongst playing group, bamford goes keep b grade coach, bamford bailed, cabbage appointed from b's to a's & b grade coach reinstated as didn't want to potentially upset the apple cart & lose his partner from treasurers position & correct in that c grade players didn't like him & wouldn't play under him & would rather leave
9. correct in that using cabbage as scape goat for his & committees poor decisions and planning
10. what does all this mean...there up the creek without a paddle due to poor business practices and only have themselves to blame!

Number3 is a lie. Isn't chairman's son going out with cabbages daughter.
Even if cabbage was still there they would be in same situation as now unless he was keeping 30 players away till after easter.
Number5 is probably on the mark. Bamford knew players were retiring and thought its easier if i walk.
Club should advertise no matter what. Anyone would have been better

[Arch44]

I believe they finally asked to be moved but got knocked back, so they'll be playing in D4, or there will be a bye if they fall over.

Why didn't they have to produce a list of current registered players of 55 like some other clubs months before. Everybody on here was aware that they where in trouble but the club didn't think so, time will time but this should have been worked out at least a month before. Is this like other clubs buying a flag then falling over the next year as they over payed what they can afford?

1. It's definitely not about money.
2. From what ive heard its the Chairman who's f##ked up big time.
3. Apparently hired his mate cabbage before last years finals and 4. when bamford won the gf he couldn't get rid of him for obvious reasons.
5. Then bamford pulled the pin about a month after presentations because of family reasons. 6. So the Chairman appointed cabbage without advertising and they would have got a couple of good applications after just winning the gf.
7. Now players have heard all this and walked because cabbage wasn't the right fit. Hardly has a good cv plus been out of coaching for a while.
8. They reinstated the b grade coach from last year. Now all the c graders from last year dont get along with b grade coach so they all walked too.
9. Now chairman is blaming everyone else but him.

1. persistent rumours regarding player payments / promises not being met - so maybe money is an issue
2. correct in that whole committee dropped the ball & suppose the buck rests with the chairman
3. incorrect wasn't hired before finals & they are not mates, nor aquaitenances before the appointment, advertised for b grade & cabbage applied & appointed
4. if GF won bamford would be reappointed if lost they were going to advertise
5. family reasons or got wind that players were leaving and opted out of what was going to be a hard year
6. cabbage was appointed as b grade coach then asked if he would take a grade when bamford pulled the pin correct in that the position wasn't advertised but would have to wonder what candidates would be left around November but not to say there weren't any overlooked
7. players had already left in droves before cabbage was appointed
8. believe plan was bamford stays flick b grade coach as not well liked amongst playing group, bamford goes keep b grade coach, bamford bailed, cabbage appointed from b's to a's & b grade coach reinstated as didn't want to potentially upset the apple cart & lose his partner from treasurers position & correct in that c grade players didn't like him & wouldn't play under him & would rather leave
9. correct in that using cabbage as scape goat for his & committees poor decisions and planning
10. what does all this mean...there up the creek without a paddle due to poor business practices and only have themselves to blame!

7 ?????

So when Cabbage was appointed Agrade coach he didn't get in front of the playing group at the time and did nothing but bag the season's before successful game plan/ game style and get a few off side and cause them to leave?
Sounds like there is some fact altering here so an ego isn't hurt.

[Minion Master]

Number3 is a lie. Isn't chairman's son going out with cabbages daughter.
Even if cabbage was still there they would be in same situation as now unless he was keeping 30 players away till after easter.
Number5 is probably on the mark. Bamford knew players were retiring and thought its easier if i walk.
Club should advertise no matter what. Anyone would have been better[/quote][/quote]

you state 3 is a lie & then ask the question if it's true & no his daughter isn't going out with the chairman's son
if he was still there they would still be in the same situation as damage had already been done with key position players already left or going
correct club should have advertised - poor performance by the committee which is what we all agree on

[Minion Master]

7 ?????

So when Cabbage was appointed Agrade coach he didn't get in front of the playing group at the time and did nothing but bag the season's before successful game plan/ game style and get a few off side and cause them to leave?
Sounds like there is some fact altering here so an ego isn't hurt.

no idea, wasn't there, obviously you were

[Robb_Stark]

maybe some of the players who jumped to ingle farm could post they would know first hand

[Q.]

Doesn't matter now how the exodus came about, the writing has been on the wall for a long time and Para Hills have refused any assistance to be placed in another division the whole time.

It will be a fair effort if they can avoid forfeits in D4/D4R now.

[Demon Juke]

I believe they finally asked to be moved but got knocked back, so they'll be playing in D4, or there will be a bye if they fall over.

Why didn't they have to produce a list of current registered players of 55 like some other clubs months before. Everybody on here was aware that they where in trouble but the club didn't think so, time will time but this should have been worked out at least a month before. Is this like other clubs buying a flag then falling over the next year as they over payed what they can afford?

It's definitely not about money.
From what ive heard its the Chairman who's f##ked up big time.
Apparently hired his mate cabbage before last years finals and when bamford won the gf he couldn't get rid of him for obvious reasons.
Then bamford pulled the pin about a month after presentations because of family reasons. So the Chairman appointed cabbage without advertising and they would have got a couple of good applications after just winning the gf.
Now players have heard all this and walked because cabbage wasn't the right fit. Hardly has a good cv plus been out of coaching for a while.
They reinstated the b grade coach from last year. Now all the c graders from last year dont get along with b grade coach so they all walked too.
Now chairman is blaming everyone else but him.

Was told there was about 15 on very good money last year, maybe the money ran out and then the trouble started. I am not sure if this is the case or not, but I think clubs need to live within there limit. We would all love to go buy a flag, but not if your club ends up a mess after every one leaves when they have won it.. The best way is to keep within your limits and keep producing your Junior's, which can be a slow process but I would rather my club still be around in the future.

[LaughingKookaburra]

Had a chat to a couple of Para Hills faithful yesterday and from their conversations with current players this week they mentioned that they were confident of getting 2 sides up for the season, however the quality of those sides remains to be seen....?