SA Footy

Jimmy_041 wrote:

The Bedge wrote:

Footy Chick wrote:Bring back Challenge Finals!

What are challenge finals?

West Adelaide United used their right to challenge in 1937

https://adelaidefootyleague.teamapp.com/custom_pages/5523-saafl-history-1937?_detail=v1

Brodlach wrote:Was FC the trainer?

Lightning McQueen wrote:

Brodlach wrote:Was FC the trainer?

Brave man.

Brodlach wrote:

Lightning McQueen wrote:

Brodlach wrote:Was FC the trainer?

Brave man.

I meant Failed Creation

Lightning McQueen wrote:

LaughingKookaburra wrote:Probably need to get through the next 3-4 weeks at best first before you start the final outcome of promotion and relegation. So much water to go under the bridge that’s way beyond our control before you establish a “fair and/or reasonable” outcome for all. Who’s to say we’re gonna get 18 rounds out next year? If that’s a possibility then you probably need to start discussions of a shortened season and how that looks fair for everyone….

Really hope we get through the rest of our games without any delays - Looking over the border in comparison we have been blessed to date with our competitions….

Exactly, get to the completion of the minor round first and we have a base plan for the promotion/relegation system, that's what the league has emphasised as the priority since day dot.

I guess the unknown is how long is COVID going to govern society? Will we always need contingency plans for all facets of life, will mask wearing be the norm moving forward?

The only feasible way of shortening the season is to drop the divisions to 8 teams, that will potentially knock 6-7 weeks off of the comp, it's a very negative outlook on it though and a sense of defeat against the pandemic.

Lightning McQueen wrote:

Jimmy_041 wrote:

The Bedge wrote:

Footy Chick wrote:Bring back Challenge Finals!

What are challenge finals?

West Adelaide United used their right to challenge in 1937

https://adelaidefootyleague.teamapp.com/custom_pages/5523-saafl-history-1937?_detail=v1

Did you play that day?

LaughingKookaburra wrote:

Lightning McQueen wrote:

LaughingKookaburra wrote:Probably need to get through the next 3-4 weeks at best first before you start the final outcome of promotion and relegation. So much water to go under the bridge that’s way beyond our control before you establish a “fair and/or reasonable” outcome for all. Who’s to say we’re gonna get 18 rounds out next year? If that’s a possibility then you probably need to start discussions of a shortened season and how that looks fair for everyone….

Really hope we get through the rest of our games without any delays - Looking over the border in comparison we have been blessed to date with our competitions….

Exactly, get to the completion of the minor round first and we have a base plan for the promotion/relegation system, that's what the league has emphasised as the priority since day dot.

I guess the unknown is how long is COVID going to govern society? Will we always need contingency plans for all facets of life, will mask wearing be the norm moving forward?

The only feasible way of shortening the season is to drop the divisions to 8 teams, that will potentially knock 6-7 weeks off of the comp, it's a very negative outlook on it though and a sense of defeat against the pandemic.

Unless we all get vaccinated. Get your shot people.

Personally can’t see an outcome that’s going to allow a full season where everyone plays each other twice without cutting it back to 8 teams for at least 2022. That could mean just the premier goes up and 3 go down (Based on a current 10 team comp) or who knows? If we get locked down again over the next 5 weeks we aren’t going to be missing just the 1 week let’s be honest. It’s going to be 2 weeks minimum and you’re probably not going to play a Grand Final at all….

The Bedge wrote:Looking over what a potential make up of divs would be next year, whilst the division number might be different for clubs, the standard of competition and clubs within each div will still be very similar if not stronger in a lot of cases.

locky801 wrote:Interesting to see how they make the divisions only 8 teams, do they relegate more after this season or dont promote the two from lower grades or am i missing something here

Trader wrote:

locky801 wrote:Interesting to see how they make the divisions only 8 teams, do they relegate more after this season or dont promote the two from lower grades or am i missing something here

They mentioned that teams would simply be listed 1-70 (based on the finishing positions at the end of this year) then split into Divs every 8 teams, with minor tweaks considered if clubs requested.

Div 1 - 1-10
Div 2 - 11-20
etc.

So in short, Div 2 premier would not be promoted to Div 1 next year.
Bottom 4 from div 2 effectively relegated to Div 3.

With teams 65-70 basically forming Div 9 next year.

7th in Div 6 this year would get ranked 57th. They would be the highest ranked Div 8 team next year (teams 57-64) - double relegated despite avoiding it altogether this year in theory haha.

On the surface there isn't a simple way to do it alternatively.
The draw back is that they have destroyed this years finals series in the interests of being able to do promotion and relegation, only to then recommend two weeks later to not promote and relegate.

I think what they should do is rank the teams as they would be after promotion and relegation, then split into groups of 8, eg:

D1 - 1st - 1
D1 - 2nd - 2
...
D1 - 8th - 8
D2 - 1st - 9
D2 - 2nd - 10
D1 - 9th - 11
D1 - 10th - 12
D2 - 3rd - 13
...

Granted between Div 1 and 2 the promoted and relegated teams all still end up in the new Div 2, however as you move down the splits, there will be grades where it does change who is the higher team and who is the lower, especially around div 5.