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Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:23 pm
by human_torpedo
I think the difference this year is Daniel Thomas is an exceptional tap ruckman, and with a better forward line this year, Schar hasnt been missed as much.. Last year he was our best ruckman and our second option wasnt fit and he blew up by seasons end.. 2 weeks is also different to the 10 weeks he missed last year..

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:24 pm
by Look Good In Leather
morell wrote:here you go, if it helps:

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technically there are only 4 cardinal points (N, S, E, W)
4 ordinal (or intercardinal) points (NE, SE, SW, NW)
and 8 secondary-intercardinal points (NNE, ENE, etc)

Of course that is in two-dimensional space, expand that to three-dimensional space and you have 6 cardinal directions (north, south, east, west, up, down)
four-dimensions you can have 9 cardinal directions (north, south, east, west, up, down, past, present, future) but lets not get into spacetime theories

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:31 pm
by morell
Yank Man wrote:It could also depend on the cardinal direction of the BOS oval. :D
26 / 208 = North South Oval.

Therefore BOS win. :D

Look Good In Leather wrote:Is it measured from Geodetic North, Magnetic North or Grid North?
Since we're using Google maps and their projection is based off Spherical Mercator, Grid North should suffice.

If this posts gets 5 likes I will regale everyone with a riveting tale behind Google's web mapping projection and how they told some Geodetic propellerheads to get stuffed... :D

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:58 pm
by Arch44
Our division smashes the other divisions on here when it comes to dribble to keep ourselves amused.

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:02 pm
by morell
Arch44 wrote:Our division smashes the other divisions on here when it comes to dribble to keep ourselves amused.

This division smashes other divisions with everything. Div 6 is simply the best. :heart: :heart:

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:04 pm
by Bombers4EVA
Arch44 wrote:Our division smashes the other divisions on here when it comes to dribble to keep ourselves amused.

There should be a whole different thread to discuss anything crap. (For example; statistics on which way your ground is facing). WOW really amazing stuff there. ;)

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:04 pm
by Arch44
morell wrote:
Arch44 wrote:Our division smashes the other divisions on here when it comes to dribble to keep ourselves amused.

This division smashes other divisions with everything. Div 6 is simply the best. :heart: :heart:

Love hearts Morrell? You old romantic.

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:09 pm
by Phantom Gossiper
Bombers4EVA wrote:
Arch44 wrote:Our division smashes the other divisions on here when it comes to dribble to keep ourselves amused.

There should be a whole different thread to discuss anything crap. (For example; statistics on which way your ground is facing). WOW really amazing stuff there. ;)

Special comments there from B4E whose been MIA for weeks on end :lol:

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:14 pm
by Bombers4EVA
Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Bombers4EVA wrote:
Arch44 wrote:Our division smashes the other divisions on here when it comes to dribble to keep ourselves amused.

There should be a whole different thread to discuss anything crap. (For example; statistics on which way your ground is facing). WOW really amazing stuff there. ;)

Special comments there from B4E whose been MIA for weeks on end :lol:

I still observe waiting for the right opportunity to say something wise. He he he.

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:19 pm
by Phantom Gossiper
Bombers4EVA wrote:I still observe waiting for the right opportunity to say something wise. He he he.

:D Well now that you've identified the moment, just need to work on the wise part ;) :lol:

Now, where is this google story morell?!

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:26 pm
by giffo
Sorry SMG. Lindblom Park is definitely North West-South East. When I was a nipper there was two ovals, with a smaller oval to the left of the clubrooms where the juniors played and the larger over in front. It then got reconfigured to run North-South about the time the changerooms got built (used to use the ones the soccer uses now) and the small oval was scrapped. So played U9-U12 playing North-South and then U14-U18 playing North West-South East.

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:27 pm
by Mr Beefy
giffo wrote:Sorry SMG. Lindblom Park is definitely East-West. When I was a nipper there was two ovals, with a smaller oval to the left of the clubrooms where the juniors played and the larger over in front. It then got reconfigured to run North-South about the time the changerooms got built (used to use the ones the soccer uses now) and the small oval was scrapped. So played U9-U12 playing North-South and then U14-U18 playing East-West.

We dont talk East-West now, we talk cardinal degrees.

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:38 pm
by Arch44
Giffo did hear right that its past players day at Lockleys this week?

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:46 pm
by giffo
Yes .

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:48 pm
by Phantom Gossiper
Well while we wait for Morell's google map story.. i found this :D

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/google-maps-saroo-brierley-2013-10

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:24 pm
by morell
So I was only half serious, but I guess now I have to deliver

Google Vs the European Petroleum Survey Group

It was a cold wintery morning in Sydney Australia, 2003 when Lars Rasmussen - A Danish born computer scientist, his brother Jens and two Australians Noel Gordon and Stephen Ma, pondered the complexities of delivering their new technology, dubbed Where2, to the market. Unbeknown to Lars and his mates at the time, they had managed to create something which would change the way the world understood location and would soon be one of the most widely used pieces of software in human history.

Where2, after a few million bucks in old mate Lars’s bank account, would become … Google Maps.

The new Google Maps had a problem though, and it was a classical one – how to represent the entire globe (which is an ellipsoid for those of you who didn’t know how to measure an angle and determine a quadrant on a compass) and get that globe to make sense on a flat surface, be it a piece of paper or a monitor. There had been many before who had tried and failed, and many who believe to this day that it is impossible, but Lars and his mates knew that it didn’t have to be perfect, they just needed to ensure your Joe Blogs, your marbles if you will, wouldn’t be too confused when using their new application.

So they poured over all the old ways – looked at conic conformal, spherical, cylindrical – none of them really worked until they realised: distortion near the poles is socially acceptable! People have been brought up knowing Greenland isn’t *that* big and that Antarctica isn’t really an elongated land mass, so, all they had to do was copy the projection used on traditional global wall maps, serve it over the internet easily and seamlessly and they would be on a winner.

And so, Google Maps adopted Spherical Mercator as it projection and tinkered with it a bit to make it work better for internet users. A new age was born and soon everyone was using Google Maps for looking at their house, finding addresses and football grounds. Eventually people figured they could start using it for Navigation too! So Google allowed people to programmatically interact with Google Maps to create navigation aids eventually getting to the point that serious industries were making serious decisions using Google Maps.

Enter the villain, the Oil and Gas Producers (OGP) and the European Petroleum Survey Group (EPSG). These guys have done things their way for aeons, and they didn’t like old mate Lars and his bunch of nerdy Aussies coming along and rewriting the traditional ways! What about the inverse flattening coefficient! What about the Latitude of Origin! What about the semi minor axis! ZOMG! You guys are going to ruin the world! – they cried. So many of the uses of Google Maps were scuttled and the whole dream was in peril.

Old mate Lars and Google didn’t really understand why it was such a big deal, considering they were using a variant one of the oldest and most well known projections ever known – Spherical Mercator - but they went along anyway and tried to get their unique little web projection standardised by the EPSG. Of course, they refused, stating, now famously:

“We have reviewed the coordinate reference system used by Google, etc. and believe that it is technically flawed. We will not devalue the EPSG dataset by including such inappropriate geodesy and cartography.”

The world waited with baited breath for Google’s response. The anticipation was palpable. So what did Google do? They simply made their own standard up – colloquially known as EPSG:900913 - Geddit? It says Google! Lol! They’re so funny!.

So all the nerds started using Google Maps again, and plugged in the new standard and variables and carried on. Everyday people plotted away, navigated, found things, searched panned and zoomed, and other than some famous stuff ups about some morons driving their cars into the drink from listening a little too much to Google Maps, everything went swimmingly (boom tish).

Eventually, the wide spread use of Google Maps became so profound, so ingrained into everyone’s lives that the EPSG relented and saw the might of Google and the error in their ways, in mid-2008 they decided to add the new system to their code registry, assigning it the code EPSG:3785. There was a massive outcry of relief and joy and people started recoding the old 900913-hack code to use the new “official” code instead.

The set of projection parameters corresponding to EPSG:3785 are as follows:

PROJCS["Popular Visualisation CRS / Mercator",
GEOGCS["Popular Visualisation CRS",
DATUM["Popular Visualisation Datum",
SPHEROID["Popular Visualisation Sphere", 6378137, 0, AUTHORITY["EPSG",7059]],
TOWGS84[0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0],
AUTHORITY["EPSG",6055]],
PRIMEM["Greenwich", 0, AUTHORITY["EPSG", "8901"]],
UNIT["degree", 0.0174532925199433, AUTHORITY["EPSG", "9102"]],
AXIS["E", EAST],
AXIS["N", NORTH],
AUTHORITY["EPSG",4055]],
PROJECTION["Mercator"],
PARAMETER["False_Easting", 0],
PARAMETER["False_Northing", 0],
PARAMETER["Central_Meridian", 0],
PARAMETER["Latitude_of_origin", 0],
UNIT["metre", 1, AUTHORITY["EPSG", "9001"]],
AXIS["East", EAST],
AXIS["North", NORTH],
AUTHORITY["EPSG",3785]]

So now, when someone makes an application which depicts the location of stormwater pipes, or when an ISP want to know where to plug you in, or when you’re finding that restaurant on Port road or when you look to find your way to Angle Vale on Saturday, or if its some poor indian orphan finding his Dad, chances are it’s thanks to Lars, his Aussie nerds, Google and their big **** off to the Oil and Gas Industry.

And so, with that, ends the tale of Google Vs the EPSG and how everyone and anyone with an internet connection can know their location, find where they need to go and map the world!!

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:35 pm
by Phantom Gossiper
Well I found that a thoroughly enjoyable read! :D

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:38 pm
by carey
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
human_torpedo wrote:Unrelated note.. IF lose to BOS this week, they face playing Lockleys in round 18 then again the following week.. Rosies finding form at the right time of the year, WC flying and BOS have beaten all comers.. If they dispose of IF this week blows the top 4 wide open, can IF turn it around? Exciting finish to the season and a potentially enthralling finals series ahead..

Quite conceivable. Farmers hold about 2% advantage over Rosewater. If Ingle Farm lose by 10 goals and Rosewater win by 10 goals the percentages would be about square after round 17. Either way, if Ingle Farm lose this week it will come down to Ingle Farm's margin over Lockley's v Rosewater's margin over Central United in round 18. The Angle Vale forfeit, which has cost Ingle Farm about 1% might be cost them a double chance.

It is also conceivable that Ingle Farm bounce back, beat BOS and go back to the top of the table.


So IF and Rosewster automatic winners then???

May as well not rock up then

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:40 pm
by heater31
My ******* head hurts :shock:

Re: SAAFL division 6 2014

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:44 pm
by Phantom Gossiper
carey wrote:May as well not rock up then

Good idea, can get on the cans instead! Sit in a pub and watch GC v Port! :D