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Flat 28min Quarters - A Grade

Posted:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:33 am
by S Demon
There's a proposal put forward by Broadies to have flat 28-min quarters in A grade and flat 25min quarters in B/C Grade. What's everyone's thoughts on having no time on in the A grade?
Re: Flat 28min Quarters - A Grade

Posted:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:35 am
by jo172
S Demon wrote:There's a proposal put forward by Broadies to have flat 28-min quarters in A grade and flat 25min quarters in B/C Grade. What's everyone's thoughts on having no time on in the A grade?
Be fun to have some C Grade injury feigning shenanigans to determine A Grade Finals.
No from me.
Re: Flat 28min Quarters - A Grade

Posted:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:38 am
by Lightning McQueen
S Demon wrote:There's a proposal put forward by Broadies to have flat 28-min quarters in A grade and flat 25min quarters in B/C Grade. What's everyone's thoughts on having no time on in the A grade?
I suggested that in the league I umpire in but only for the 3rd and 4th quarters and only if the margin was greater than 15 goals at half time.
One game I had the 3rd quarter go for 43 and a half minutes.
Re: Flat 28min Quarters - A Grade

Posted:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:41 am
by The Bedge
jo172 wrote:S Demon wrote:There's a proposal put forward by Broadies to have flat 28-min quarters in A grade and flat 25min quarters in B/C Grade. What's everyone's thoughts on having no time on in the A grade?
Be fun to have some C Grade injury feigning shenanigans to determine A Grade Finals.
No from me.
What if they had time on for finals? Or time on could be applied at umpires discretion still?
I would like 20min C grade, 24min B grade and 28min A grade - start at 10,12 and 2..
Re: Flat 28min Quarters - A Grade

Posted:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:41 am
by Iron Fist
on average the A grade quarters would go for around 27-30mins most games so couldn't really see a problem with it.
I reckon just leave the B and C grade alone.
Re: Flat 28min Quarters - A Grade

Posted:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:44 am
by mighty hounds
The Bedge wrote:jo172 wrote:S Demon wrote:There's a proposal put forward by Broadies to have flat 28-min quarters in A grade and flat 25min quarters in B/C Grade. What's everyone's thoughts on having no time on in the A grade?
Be fun to have some C Grade injury feigning shenanigans to determine A Grade Finals.
No from me.
What if they had time on for finals? Or time on could be applied at umpires discretion still?
I would like 20min C grade, 24min B grade and 28min A grade - start at 10,12 and 2..
I like that idea. Clock stops for injuries so players can’t waste time?
Re: Flat 28min Quarters - A Grade

Posted:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:46 am
by Sass!
Probably agree with Jo on this one, id hate to see an A grade game decided through time wasting tactics (people not giving the ball back behind the goals, faked injuries, cramping etc). Only having time on in finals could be a solution, but some minor rounds can be make or break with relegation and finals spots up for grabs.
If there is anything ive learnt from the rule changes we regularly see in the AFL, its that if there is a way to exploit a rule to give a team an advantage, the coaches will explore this as much as possible if its the difference between winning and losing.
Re: Flat 28min Quarters - A Grade

Posted:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:00 am
by Dutchy
Surely you couldn't, 1 point up with 30 seconds to play (esp with some clubs having the time on an electronic scoreboard) ball on the wing and you can boot the ball into a nearby street to kill the game.
Re: Flat 28min Quarters - A Grade

Posted:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:01 am
by BigB
Too much opportunity to exploit - leave as is.
Re: Flat 28min Quarters - A Grade

Posted:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:03 am
by Senor Moto Gadili
Dutchy wrote:Surely you couldn't, 1 point up with 30 seconds to play (esp with some clubs having the time on an electronic scoreboard) ball on the wing and you can boot the ball into a nearby street to kill the game.
Exactly, it's fine as it is.
Re: Flat 28min Quarters - A Grade

Posted:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:04 am
by LaughingKookaburra
No from me. Is there a reason why is it being suggested? 2 weeks back the 2nd quarter of our A grade match went for well over 40 minutes. Yes we kicked 9 goals in the quarter but the main reason why it went so long was that the wind kept blowing the footy 120 metres past the goals and into a dry creek. There are too many variables that could create controversy for me.
Re: Flat 28min Quarters - A Grade

Posted:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:17 am
by zedman
no kthx..
Re: Flat 28min Quarters - A Grade

Posted:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:18 am
by The Bedge
LaughingKookaburra wrote:Is there a reason why is it being suggested?.
Main reason being to ease volunteer workload - most time keepers for A grade are long serving members who know and have experience of the time on/off procedure.. trying to get people to be time keepers would be easier with flat quarters. Once people realise what's involved they tend to not be interested anymore.
Re: Flat 28min Quarters - A Grade

Posted:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:20 am
by The Bedge
Dutchy wrote:Surely you couldn't, 1 point up with 30 seconds to play (esp with some clubs having the time on an electronic scoreboard) ball on the wing and you can boot the ball into a nearby street to kill the game.
Deliberate time wasting, umpire blows time off, play resumes where kick was with 30 seconds left.
Sure there are plenty of concerns with exploiting - but how often does that happen in the B/C grades now?
Re: Flat 28min Quarters - A Grade

Posted:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:22 am
by Mr Beefy
LaughingKookaburra wrote:No from me. Is there a reason why is it being suggested? 2 weeks back the 2nd quarter of our A grade match went for well over 40 minutes. Yes we kicked 9 goals in the quarter but the main reason why it went so long was that the wind kept blowing the footy 120 metres past the goals and into a dry creek. There are too many variables that could create controversy for me.
Cos Broadies regular timekeeper missed a game and only 1 other person knew how to do it.
Re: Flat 28min Quarters - A Grade

Posted:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:23 am
by Dutchy
The Bedge wrote:Dutchy wrote:Surely you couldn't, 1 point up with 30 seconds to play (esp with some clubs having the time on an electronic scoreboard) ball on the wing and you can boot the ball into a nearby street to kill the game.
Deliberate time wasting, umpire blows time off, play resumes where kick was with 30 seconds left.
Sure there are plenty of concerns with exploiting - but how often does that happen in the B/C grades now?
How is he blowing time off when there is no time on?

Re: Flat 28min Quarters - A Grade

Posted:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:24 am
by Mr Beefy
The Bedge wrote:Dutchy wrote:Surely you couldn't, 1 point up with 30 seconds to play (esp with some clubs having the time on an electronic scoreboard) ball on the wing and you can boot the ball into a nearby street to kill the game.
Deliberate time wasting, umpire blows time off, play resumes where kick was with 30 seconds left.
Sure there are plenty of concerns with exploiting - but how often does that happen in the B/C grades now?
It should be happening every week when there is a breeze favouring one end
Re: Flat 28min Quarters - A Grade

Posted:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:25 am
by The Bedge
Dutchy wrote:How is he blowing time off when there is no time on?

Still got a timekeeper - what's stopping him from stopping the time?
Re: Flat 28min Quarters - A Grade

Posted:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:41 am
by LaughingKookaburra
The Bedge wrote:LaughingKookaburra wrote:Is there a reason why is it being suggested?.
Main reason being to ease volunteer workload - most time keepers for A grade are long serving members who know and have experience of the time on/off procedure.. trying to get people to be time keepers would be easier with flat quarters. Once people realise what's involved they tend to not be interested anymore.
The time keeper should be watching the reserves and c’s in its entirety either way in case the umpires call for a stop to time. I fail to see why it’s even been bought up. Any reserves player with half a clue runs the clock down when things aren’t going their way and there is many ways to do it. The only way this new rule helps is in assisting teams when they are on the ropes by stopping quarters early when a team gets a decent run on.
Re: Flat 28min Quarters - A Grade

Posted:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:47 am
by Dutchy
The Bedge wrote:Dutchy wrote:How is he blowing time off when there is no time on?

Still got a timekeeper - what's stopping him from stopping the time?
Never seen it happen, even when an ambulance is called time keeps running.