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Re: Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:13 am
by whufc
am Bays wrote:Yeah Nah, I’ll take Carey thanks.


Yeah Nah, Carey's start to his test career was as average as we have ever seen from an aussie international keeper. He then had a real good 3 month period until the Bairstow incident. Since then he has been horrible with both bat and gloves

At 32, weve had a look and he isnt the man.

Not sure Inglis is the answer either but at least at 26 he has time on his side. Inglis should have caught his chance imo but it's funny when Carey was dropping even easier chances people gave him the benefit of the doubt, Inglis drops one and people are putting him in the can on one performance.

Re: Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:51 am
by RB
FMD, it wouldn't be a day ending in Y if Whuffer wasn't potting Carey.

Re: Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:28 am
by am Bays
The bigger issue is the coaching/managing of the side

we look confused off field - selections
we look confused on field - tactics, intent (lack of)
we look confused in the contest - shot selections, balls bowled, dropped catches

Ronald needs to go back to catching the Burgerlar...

Re: Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:29 am
by whufc
am Bays wrote:The bigger issue is the coachong/managing of the side

we look confused off field - selections
on field - tactics, intent (lack of)
in the contest - shot selections, balls bowled, dropped catches

Ronald needs to go back to catching the Burgerlar...


Couldn't agree more.

Obviously, none of us know the true answer but from perspective it appears that whilst Langer had flaws he also was very well prepared, had the team play with an edge and had extremely high standards.

Some of that seems to have been lost in recent times. As you said they seem to lack intent, they don't seem to have great plans and it comes across as if they are being coached by a mate who has somewhat let the standards slip.

Re: Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:35 am
by mighty_tiger_79
My analysis is that Matt Wade needs to he sent over TODAY to try and help salvage what's left of this wreck

Re: Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:55 am
by gadj1976
am Bays wrote:The bigger issue is the coachong/managing of the side

we look confused off field - selections
on field - tactics, intent (lack of)
in the contest - shot selections, balls bowled, dropped catches

Ronald needs to go back to catching the Burgerlar...


I for one am happy that we're not doing well.

Hopefully the tail wagging the dog will stop after this shemozzle and order can be restored.

Langer must be p*ssing himself

The test series was disgraceful against the Poms and now we're intent on bowling half trackers on tiny grounds.

Re: Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:00 am
by Lightning McQueen
whufc wrote:
am Bays wrote:Yeah Nah, I’ll take Carey thanks.


Yeah Nah, Carey's start to his test career was as average as we have ever seen from an aussie international keeper. He then had a real good 3 month period until the Bairstow incident. Since then he has been horrible with both bat and gloves

At 32, weve had a look and he isnt the man.

Not sure Inglis is the answer either but at least at 26 he has time on his side. Inglis should have caught his chance imo but it's funny when Carey was dropping even easier chances people gave him the benefit of the doubt, Inglis drops one and people are putting him in the can on one performance.

When you wish hard enough for something it sometimes comes true.

Re: Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:25 am
by whufc
Lightning McQueen wrote:
whufc wrote:
am Bays wrote:Yeah Nah, I’ll take Carey thanks.


Yeah Nah, Carey's start to his test career was as average as we have ever seen from an aussie international keeper. He then had a real good 3 month period until the Bairstow incident. Since then he has been horrible with both bat and gloves

At 32, weve had a look and he isnt the man.

Not sure Inglis is the answer either but at least at 26 he has time on his side. Inglis should have caught his chance imo but it's funny when Carey was dropping even easier chances people gave him the benefit of the doubt, Inglis drops one and people are putting him in the can on one performance.

When you wish hard enough for something it sometimes comes true.


Come on mate, i think its more if you 'throw enough darts' :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:38 pm
by stampy
i see zampa went for plenty again, has lost his mojo imo

Re: Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 1:11 pm
by Lightning McQueen
whufc wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:When you wish hard enough for something it sometimes comes true.


Come on mate, i think its more if you 'throw enough darts' :lol: :lol: :lol:

Na, it’s your hatred towards him from the moment he debuted is what I’ve never understood.

It has been like you’ve wanted him to fail, when we have so few South Aussies play at international level I like to throw all my hope and support behind them.

Re: Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 1:33 pm
by northerner
am Bays wrote:The bigger issue is the coachong/managing of the side

we look confused off field - selections
we look confused on field - tactics, intent (lack of)
we look confused in the contest - shot selections, balls bowled, dropped catches

Ronald needs to go back to catching the Burgerlar...

Totally agree.
When a whole group of talented players ALL continually fail to play to their ability, then the coaching staff are at fault.
Have lost 7 of the past 8 ODI games, and none of them have even been close.
As bad a patch as I can recall.
Our best performing bat ATM is a guy who was only selected after Heads injury, our #1 spinner is being upstaged by a part timer back from a major injury, the world's #1 ODI bowler is bowling half trackers and we can't get any runs from anyone batting 5 thru 8.
And to top it off, we haven't even got any young guns who would be at least benefiting from the exposure.
Unmitigated disaster.

Re: Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 1:38 pm
by Booney
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Was that Booney dancing in the stands with the power guernsey on?


Andy Jeaks, President of the WA PAFC Supporters group. Ripping bloke who does a massive amount of work in WA. Been over twice to Optus and both times he's got me out on the banner, once with @valleys07 and once with my brother. Awesome experience with a good mate and my brother. Organizes all the pre and post match functions. Great bloke, over there with his son who made a name for himself on the test tour of India early this year.

Re: Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:45 pm
by whufc
Lightning McQueen wrote:
whufc wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:When you wish hard enough for something it sometimes comes true.


Come on mate, i think its more if you 'throw enough darts' :lol: :lol: :lol:

Na, it’s your hatred towards him from the moment he debuted is what I’ve never understood.

It has been like you’ve wanted him to fail, when we have so few South Aussies play at international level I like to throw all my hope and support behind them.


Nah never wanted him to fail, but from what i had seen of him watching plenty of shields streams i always thought his keeping was highly overrated and many SA people had a significantly over inflated opinion of that.

I dont 'hate' anyone just didnt rate him like others did. Many posters on here were no different to me with their views to Wade especially at the end of his time in the side.

Re: Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:19 pm
by Armchair expert
stampy wrote:i see zampa went for plenty again, has lost his mojo imo


Primed to become a t20 mercenary

Re: Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 5:45 pm
by locky801
Feel alot happier now Ronald has come out and promised that the side will respond and fight back for the rest of the tournament :roll:

Re: Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:41 pm
by locky801
NZ won the toss and bowling against Bangladesh

Williamson back in for the Kiwis :D

Re: Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:55 pm
by mal
AU played 2 good bowling attacks on decks that gave the bowlers assistance
The batting will improve especially if the decks are flatter
Unfortunately too many players are either close to or too old - or out of form

AU to recover and finish 6th with or without Matthew Wade

Re: Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:46 pm
by The Dark Knight
gadj1976 wrote:
am Bays wrote:The bigger issue is the coachong/managing of the side

we look confused off field - selections
on field - tactics, intent (lack of)
in the contest - shot selections, balls bowled, dropped catches

Ronald needs to go back to catching the Burgerlar...


I for one am happy that we're not doing well.

Hopefully the tail wagging the dog will stop after this shemozzle and order can be restored.

Langer must be p*ssing himself

The test series was disgraceful against the Poms and now we're intent on bowling half trackers on tiny grounds.
Australia has been off the boil since the WTC Final, we were brilliant in that match and been average (and somewhat lucky in the Ashes) since yet Australia's ODI form isn't a surprise to me, we're just not good enough as a collective at the moment compared to India, England, South Africa and New Zealand (potentially Pakistan too, I'm very interested to see how we go against them).

If we play Sri Lanka on a dry, dusty, spinning pitch against Theekshana, Dhananjaya and Wellalage I won't be surprised if we lose. Like Mal said above too many players are out of form at the same time and they will continue to get found out against spin.

Re: Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:52 pm
by The Dark Knight
Linton Das with a black duck in the Bangladesh v NZ match, caught at fine leg first ball of the match trying to flick Boult.

Bangers are 4/114 from 24 overs.

Re: Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:20 pm
by Rik E Boy
RB wrote:FMD, it wouldn't be a day ending in Y if Whuffer wasn't potting Carey.


That doesn't make him wrong on current form.

As long as we have Bailey, Di Venuto, and McDonald, we are cooked. Sending over the same mob that couldn't get the job done four years ago, while pulling the same selection blunders we did in the test series has given us this disaster. Di Venuto in particular needs a rocket. More batting collapses than we had in the eighties even though we have Smith, Warner, Khawa, Head, and Marnus who all have decent average. In the mid eighties we had AB and that was it. We sack a winning coach yet Di Venuto apparently has a job for life.

regards,

REB