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Re: World Cup 2015

Postby The Dark Knight » Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:59 pm

5 for Mitch Marsh!

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Re: World Cup 2015

Postby RustyCage » Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:01 pm

Great catch by Smith!
I'm gonna break my rusty cage and run
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Re: World Cup 2015

Postby wristwatcher » Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:04 pm

I said I would take 250 at the start of the day and 300 was a lock at the G. We were never losing once we posted 342 despite Joe Roots celebrations.

Brilliant clinical display against an insipid opponent.

If Marsh keeps taking wickets he's going to steal Finchs MOM.

In an alternate galaxy Woakes holds that catch and this game goes on a completely different tangent.

I wonder if Morgan rates our attack now you potato loving muppet :lol:
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Re: World Cup 2015

Postby wristwatcher » Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:03 pm

Now let's break his f&xking arm. :D
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Re: World Cup 2015

Postby wristwatcher » Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:28 pm

That's Gold!!! Sucked in ya Pommy Bastard
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Re: World Cup 2015

Postby whufc » Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:28 pm

But ordinary that last deciscion

Had to be a dead ball

Once the umpire gave it out Anderson didn't even have to run
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Re: World Cup 2015

Postby BoundaryRider84 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:29 pm

whufc wrote:But ordinary that last deciscion

Had to be a dead ball

Once the umpire gave it out Anderson didn't even have to run


**** Anderson
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Re: World Cup 2015

Postby dedja » Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:31 pm

whufc wrote:But ordinary that last deciscion

Had to be a dead ball

Once the umpire gave it out Anderson didn't even have to run


Yep, but sucked in anyway.
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Re: World Cup 2015

Postby Grahaml » Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:06 pm

whufc wrote:But ordinary that last deciscion

Had to be a dead ball

Once the umpire gave it out Anderson didn't even have to run


Actually thinking about it, I think it has to revert to being live. Which then has further implications about continuing play after an umpire's decision. The reason it needs to revert to a live ball is in the case of the last ball of the innings. If the batting team needs only say 2 to win and the umpire gives it out, but the batsmen have run 2, it would be unfair to then admit the umpire made a mistake but let that mistake cost the side the game. There are other instances too, such as any time you're chasing runs. To lose that ball purely because of an overturned decision isn't right. I don't think the solution is rules based on when the incident happens either. If it isn't already covered by the rules, then it should be the case that the play continues until the umpire deems the ball to be properly dead and then the review takes place.

Might seem a bit odd, but that is the only way I see to really allow what would have happened with a correct decision to be the final result of that delivery.
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Re: World Cup 2015

Postby whufc » Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:12 pm

Grahaml wrote:
whufc wrote:But ordinary that last deciscion

Had to be a dead ball

Once the umpire gave it out Anderson didn't even have to run


Actually thinking about it, I think it has to revert to being live. Which then has further implications about continuing play after an umpire's decision. The reason it needs to revert to a live ball is in the case of the last ball of the innings. If the batting team needs only say 2 to win and the umpire gives it out, but the batsmen have run 2, it would be unfair to then admit the umpire made a mistake but let that mistake cost the side the game. There are other instances too, such as any time you're chasing runs. To lose that ball purely because of an overturned decision isn't right. I don't think the solution is rules based on when the incident happens either. If it isn't already covered by the rules, then it should be the case that the play continues until the umpire deems the ball to be properly dead and then the review takes place.

Might seem a bit odd, but that is the only way I see to really allow what would have happened with a correct decision to be the final result of that delivery.


Isn't the ball properly dead once he makes the deciscion to give the batsmen out
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Re: World Cup 2015

Postby Jim05 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:14 pm

whufc wrote:
Grahaml wrote:
whufc wrote:But ordinary that last deciscion

Had to be a dead ball

Once the umpire gave it out Anderson didn't even have to run


Actually thinking about it, I think it has to revert to being live. Which then has further implications about continuing play after an umpire's decision. The reason it needs to revert to a live ball is in the case of the last ball of the innings. If the batting team needs only say 2 to win and the umpire gives it out, but the batsmen have run 2, it would be unfair to then admit the umpire made a mistake but let that mistake cost the side the game. There are other instances too, such as any time you're chasing runs. To lose that ball purely because of an overturned decision isn't right. I don't think the solution is rules based on when the incident happens either. If it isn't already covered by the rules, then it should be the case that the play continues until the umpire deems the ball to be properly dead and then the review takes place.

Might seem a bit odd, but that is the only way I see to really allow what would have happened with a correct decision to be the final result of that delivery.


Isn't the ball properly dead once he makes the deciscion to give the batsmen out

That is my understanding
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Re: World Cup 2015

Postby Grahaml » Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:09 pm

Um, not what I'm talking about. If that's the current rule then I think it needs to be changed. If the decision to give the batsmen out makes the ball dead and the decision is overturned then it costs the batting team that ball. I'm saying in cases where there might be a review, keep playing until the ball is dead by reaching a boundary, being returned to the keeper etc.
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Re: World Cup 2015

Postby mal » Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:30 pm

Can someone let me know what the qualifying rules are ?
There are 2 divisions of 7 teams
How many teams progress to stage 2 ?
Then after stage 2 , for stage 3 ?
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Re: World Cup 2015

Postby bennymacca » Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:42 pm

mal wrote:Can someone let me know what the qualifying rules are ?
There are 2 divisions of 7 teams
How many teams progress to stage 2 ?
Then after stage 2 , for stage 3 ?


goes into quarter finals after this
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Re: World Cup 2015

Postby Jim05 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:47 pm

mal wrote:Can someone let me know what the qualifying rules are ?
There are 2 divisions of 7 teams
How many teams progress to stage 2 ?
Then after stage 2 , for stage 3 ?

Top 4 in each pool go through to quarters.
The Quarters are
1A v 4B
2A v 3B
1B v 4A
2B v 3A
Although the final venues are fixed the matches that will be played there are not, hence why Adelaide will host Australia no matter whether we finish top or fourth.
Same with NZ, they will play at home the entire tournament up until the final provided they progress.
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Re: World Cup 2015

Postby Jim05 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:49 pm

Grahaml wrote:Um, not what I'm talking about. If that's the current rule then I think it needs to be changed. If the decision to give the batsmen out makes the ball dead and the decision is overturned then it costs the batting team that ball. I'm saying in cases where there might be a review, keep playing until the ball is dead by reaching a boundary, being returned to the keeper etc.

I see what you are saying but the current rules dont allow for it. Under the current rules the ball is dead from the moment of the initial decision.
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World Cup 2015

Postby Jim05 » Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:06 am

This is from the laws of cricket, the umpires clearly stuffed up tonight

3.6 Dead ball a) If following a Player Review request, an original decision of ‘Out’ is changed to ‘Not Out’, then the ball is still deemed to have become dead when the original decision was made (as per Law 23.1(a)(iii)). The batting side, while benefiting from the reversal of the dismissal, will not benefit from any runs that may subsequently have accrued from the delivery had the on-field umpire originally made a ‘Not Out’ decision, other than any No Balls penalty that could arise under 3.3 (g) above. b) If an original decision of ‘Not Out’ is changed to ‘Out’, the ball will retrospectively be deemed to have become dead from the moment of the dismissal event. All subsequent events, including any runs scored, are ignored.
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Re: World Cup 2015

Postby dedja » Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:12 am

double sucked in
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Re: World Cup 2015

Postby mal » Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:32 am

Quarter finals could be this then
AU V WI [1A V 4B]
NZ V PA [2A V 3B]
SA V SL [1B V 4A]
IN V EG [2B V 3A]

What would happen after that ?
I assume that the 4 winners would play off in semi finals
But who plays who after the quarter finals ?
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Re: World Cup 2015

Postby Jim05 » Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:57 am

Semi Finals
1A/4B v 2B/3A
1B/4A v 2A/3B
Need to finish 1 spot infront or behind NZ only otherwise we could meet them in the Semi which is in NZ.
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