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Re: Sheffield Shield Scores around Oz

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:49 am
by mal
As stupid as this would be :
The 2nd placed team hosts the final
The top team still has the draw as a SS win

Problem could be be
More green tops then roads though


Aerie has suggested first innings points = the winner in drawn Final games
That seems more logical than the current set up
That's how the 4 day games are played in the minor round
Sides get a 2 point reward for winning on the first dig during the season , so apply it to the Final in drawn games

Re: Sheffield Shield Scores around Oz

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:58 am
by bennymacca
agree with all of that mal. i really think that first innings points has merit. also means there will be exciting games, because once a team has first innings points, the other team will be throwing caution to the wind to try and get an outright. wont be like the normal season where avoiding outright defeat is a good thing mostly, teams will be setting up 150 run chases etc to try and jag a win.

Re: Sheffield Shield Scores around Oz

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:01 am
by whufc
Did the real don ever captain a sheffield shield premiership side!!!

Serious question I don't know the answer.

Re: Sheffield Shield Scores around Oz

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:06 am
by westcoastpanther
whufc wrote:Did the real don ever captain a sheffield shield premiership side!!!

Serious question I don't know the answer.


1932 I reckon, he had been ill and didn't tour

Re: Sheffield Shield Scores around Oz

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:17 am
by heater31
whufc wrote:Did the real don ever captain a sheffield shield premiership side!!!

Serious question I don't know the answer.


Well back in those days there never was a final it was first past the post....


Out of interest how many teams was Don Bradman apart of that won the Shield?

Re: Sheffield Shield Scores around Oz

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:31 am
by bennymacca
heater31 wrote:Out of interest how many teams was Don Bradman apart of that won the Shield?


5 that i can count.

NSW: 1928-29, 1931-32, 1932-33
SA: 1935-36, 1938-39

Not sure how many matches etc he played in any of those seasons, but those were the titles won whilst he was at each respective state.

Re: Sheffield Shield Scores around Oz

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:51 am
by Aerie
bennymacca wrote:
heater31 wrote:Out of interest how many teams was Don Bradman apart of that won the Shield?


5 that i can count.

NSW: 1928-29, 1931-32, 1932-33
SA: 1935-36, 1938-39

Not sure how many matches etc he played in any of those seasons, but those were the titles won whilst he was at each respective state.


Would have been a large portion I'd imagine. In those days they had the time to play Sheffield Shield & Grade Cricket along with the international schedule, which was only Test matches.

Re: Sheffield Shield Scores around Oz

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:53 am
by heater31
Aerie wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
heater31 wrote:Out of interest how many teams was Don Bradman apart of that won the Shield?


5 that i can count.

NSW: 1928-29, 1931-32, 1932-33
SA: 1935-36, 1938-39

Not sure how many matches etc he played in any of those seasons, but those were the titles won whilst he was at each respective state.


Would have been a large portion I'd imagine. In those days they had the time to play Sheffield Shield & Grade Cricket along with the international schedule, which was only Test matches.


Given the opposition in that time was only England and South Africa for the most of his career....

Re: Sheffield Shield Scores around Oz

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:55 am
by bennymacca
Aerie wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
heater31 wrote:Out of interest how many teams was Don Bradman apart of that won the Shield?


5 that i can count.

NSW: 1928-29, 1931-32, 1932-33
SA: 1935-36, 1938-39

Not sure how many matches etc he played in any of those seasons, but those were the titles won whilst he was at each respective state.


Would have been a large portion I'd imagine. In those days they had the time to play Sheffield Shield & Grade Cricket along with the international schedule, which was only Test matches.


was more thinking about being away for tours, but i guess most of them would have been in the aussie winter

Re: Sheffield Shield Scores around Oz

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:13 pm
by mal
I would think Arthur Kippax was The Dons Captain when they played for NSW [Bradman may have captained if Kippax was unavailable ?]
The Dons last dig for NSW was 128
He came to SA for the 1935/1936 season
He was given the SA captaincy
On debut the Don made 117 , hence his last dig for NSW and first for SA were tons
The irony was that the 117 was against NSW as well

1. 1935/1936
SA won the SS in the Dons first season and as Captain
I would say that would be the first SS that Don won as captain

2 1938/1939
Next SS win as captain was in 38/39
Once again in the first game the Don made a ton , this time in both innings 107 +113

WW2 took its turn
SA did not win the SS again until 1953 ,The Don had retired a few years earlier

So I reckon he captained at least 2 SS winning teams for SA
And perhaps none for NSW
But will stand corrected if wrongggg

Re: Sheffield Shield Scores around Oz

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:17 pm
by bennymacca
mal wrote:The irony was that the 117 was against NSW as well


coincidence, not irony :D

but otherwise well done, good post. i didnt check whether bradman was actually captain of NSW.

Re: Sheffield Shield Scores around Oz

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:09 am
by Phantom Gossiper
Mal was present for all those SS wins too 8)

Re: Sheffield Shield Scores around Oz

PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:33 pm
by Rik E Boy
Who won the Shield this season?

regards,

:D